Students Claim Objective ‘Truth’ Is a ‘White Supremacist’ Myth

a reply to: seeker1963

objective truth is a social construct 

The sky is blue!

Ummm, no it's not. And that's offensive to color blind people.

originally posted by: rockintitz
a reply to: seeker1963

objective truth is a social construct 

The sky is blue!

Ummm, no it's not. And that's offensive to color blind people.

I'm trying to understand your sarcasm. How is the color of the sky offensive to blind people? They would presumably not know it to be any other color.

a reply to: seeker1963

You are absolutely right. Education makes you stupid.

a reply to: dfnj2015

How are a lot things labeled offensive ... offensive?

The idea is that if you make someone feel bad or uncomfortable, then you are being offensive. The blind person cannot see blue, so presumably, you make them uncomfortable by using a word to describe the sky that is beyond their frame of reference. It makes them uncomfortable and therefore, they feel bad. You have been thoughtless, insensitive and offensive.

a reply to: ketsuko

You're absolutely correct and its hilarious to watch. Got popcorn?

When in doubt, refer to the ...... "Ten Commandments"

a reply to: dfnj2015

American education certainly doesn't make you much more educated. A college degree today is the equivalent of a High School Diploma from 1916.

But........employers won't hire anyone without a college degree because......its like liability insurance; they assume that after 4 years of PC indoctrination, they'll know how to NOT offend in the work force and cause lawsuits.

a reply to: dfnj2015

How is the color of the sky offensive to blind people? 

Beats me.

How is the concept of objecive truth offensive to literally anyone?

originally posted by: TobyFlenderson
a reply to: seeker1963

Although I understand the apprehension one feels when reading the article and the letter, I think we would be well served to realize that these are college kids. I held a ton of idealistic and contrived beliefs in my college days. I even wrote a letter to the editor for the college paper that completely contradicts how I feel now on a particular subject. College years are a time of growth and experimentation; it is common for intellectual boundaries to get tested. That's what education is all about.

I'm not at all familiar with this woman that was being protested and am not of a mind to research her at this point. The students in question feel that she is overtly racist. While I do not condone their behavior in shutting down her speech, I'm somewhat reticent to say I wouldn't have done the same thing if I were a young person of color and she is, in fact, a thinly veiled racist.

These folks sure didn't want their intellectual boundaries tested.

The students go on to claim that Heather MacDonald is “ignorant of interlocking systems of domination that produce the lethal conditions under which oppressed peoples are forced to live,” which is an explicit reference to the concept of intersectionality, an increasingly popular theory of oppression which conservative columnist Andrew Sullivan recently called a “religion.”

I actually would invite the students to elaborate more on these 'interlocking systems' because I just don't get it at this point.

www.breitbart.com...

Okay, I think they mean this...

It is operating, in Orwell’s words, as a “smelly little orthodoxy,” and it manifests itself, it seems to me, almost as a religion. It posits a classic orthodoxy through which all of human experience is explained — and through which all speech must be filtered. Its version of original sin is the power of some identity groups over others. To overcome this sin, you need first to confess, i.e., “check your privilege,” and subsequently live your life and order your thoughts in a way that keeps this sin at bay. The sin goes so deep into your psyche, especially if you are white or male or straight, that a profound conversion is required.

Like the Puritanism once familiar in New England, intersectionality controls language and the very terms of discourse. It enforces manners. It has an idea of virtue — and is obsessed with upholding it. The saints are the most oppressed who nonetheless resist. The sinners are categorized in various ascending categories of demographic damnation, like something out of Dante. The only thing this religion lacks, of course, is salvation. Life is simply an interlocking drama of oppression and power and resistance, ending only in death.

It’s Marx without the final total liberation. It operates as a religion in one other critical dimension: If you happen to see the world in a different way, if you’re a liberal or libertarian or even, gasp, a conservative, if you believe that a university is a place where any idea, however loathsome, can be debated and refuted, you are not just wrong, you are immoral. If you think that arguments and ideas can have a life independent of “white supremacy,” you are complicit in evil. And you are not just complicit, your heresy is a direct threat to others, and therefore needs to be extinguished. You can’t reason with heresy. You have to ban it.

hotair.com...

originally posted by: InTheLight

The students go on to claim that Heather MacDonald is “ignorant of interlocking systems of domination that produce the lethal conditions under which oppressed peoples are forced to live,” which is an explicit reference to the concept of intersectionality, an increasingly popular theory of oppression which conservative columnist Andrew Sullivan recently called a “religion.”

I actually would invite the students to elaborate more on these 'interlocking systems' because I just don't get it at this point.

www.breitbart.com...

You're not supposed to get it!

You're just supposed to sit back and take their belief as gospel or be labeled a NAZI!

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: InTheLight

The students go on to claim that Heather MacDonald is “ignorant of interlocking systems of domination that produce the lethal conditions under which oppressed peoples are forced to live,” which is an explicit reference to the concept of intersectionality, an increasingly popular theory of oppression which conservative columnist Andrew Sullivan recently called a “religion.”

I actually would invite the students to elaborate more on these 'interlocking systems' because I just don't get it at this point.

www.breitbart.com...

You're not supposed to get it!

You're just supposed to sit back and take their belief as gospel or be labeled a NAZI!

That's not my way, I am an explorer.

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: dfnj2015

American education certainly doesn't make you much more educated. A college degree today is the equivalent of a High School Diploma from 1916.

But........employers won't hire anyone without a college degree because......its like liability insurance; they assume that after 4 years of PC indoctrination, they'll know how to NOT offend in the work force and cause lawsuits.

Funny, the whole time I was in college I was under the delusion the more I put into it the more I would get out of it.

originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: dfnj2015

American education certainly doesn't make you much more educated. A college degree today is the equivalent of a High School Diploma from 1916.

But........employers won't hire anyone without a college degree because......its like liability insurance; they assume that after 4 years of PC indoctrination, they'll know how to NOT offend in the work force and cause lawsuits.

Funny, the whole time I was in college I was under the delusion the more I put into it the more I would get out of it.

I was told by a Professor that you are the one that paves your way, of course, with your education, but it's all up to you, so nurture that which others want to connect.

Where there is no truth you won't find God, morality or ethics.
As a consequence you won't find civilized society either.
The transition to Communism or Socialism always starts with anarchy.

The oxymoron is obvious in claiming there is no objective truth in the now while abundantly finding in the past.

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: InTheLight

The students go on to claim that Heather MacDonald is “ignorant of interlocking systems of domination that produce the lethal conditions under which oppressed peoples are forced to live,” which is an explicit reference to the concept of intersectionality, an increasingly popular theory of oppression which conservative columnist Andrew Sullivan recently called a “religion.”

I actually would invite the students to elaborate more on these 'interlocking systems' because I just don't get it at this point.

www.breitbart.com...

You're not supposed to get it!

You're just supposed to sit back and take their belief as gospel or be labeled a NAZI!

You're obviously a White supremacist because you deny the objective truth of interlocking systems!

I wonder what they would say if someone told these students that white supremacism is an Afro-centric myth centered in the subjective truth of African-Americans that is completely and totally irrelevant to the subjective truths of other classes of American?

originally posted by: ketsuko
I wonder what they would say if someone told these students that white supremacism is an Afro-centric myth centered in the subjective truth of African-Americans that is completely and totally irrelevant to the subjective truths of other classes of American?

Why not ask the Asian-Americans and the indigenous peoples what their subjective truth is?

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: ketsuko
I wonder what they would say if someone told these students that white supremacism is an Afro-centric myth centered in the subjective truth of African-Americans that is completely and totally irrelevant to the subjective truths of other classes of American?

Why not ask the Asian-Americans and the indigenous peoples what their subjective truth is?

I could. But then it wouldn't be my subjective truth would it? It might not even be the same one this group holds either.

And my husband is likely a bad example of a Native American to ask because he's like me ... we both believe in objective truth.

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: ketsuko
I wonder what they would say if someone told these students that white supremacism is an Afro-centric myth centered in the subjective truth of African-Americans that is completely and totally irrelevant to the subjective truths of other classes of American?

Why not ask the Asian-Americans and the indigenous peoples what their subjective truth is?

I could. But then it wouldn't be my subjective truth would it? It might not even be the same one this group holds either.

And my husband is likely a bad example of a Native American to ask because he's like me ... we both believe in objective truth.

Well, my aboriginal friend tells me tales of the hatred of whites by some aboriginals here in Canada. I can't argue with that knowing the history that is not taught in schools.