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originally posted by: 38181
60% of my gross salary went to state and federal taxes. I took home less this year then last year because I made more this year! Different tax bracket. Yeah I was pissed and still am, especially when I see the lazy %€+*^! Collect disability and free govt hand outs down from where I live.
originally posted by: lordcomac
originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: introvert
We (our country) could eliminate poverty and save billions of dollars per year on health care costs and hundreds of other expenses if we had universal basic income, but then the medical industry, prisons and other Industrial Complexes wouldn't have their cash cows, so it would never happen.
I agree with you, not enough is done but that is completely by design.
The money has to come from somewhere. You can't just print free money and give it to everyone- that's how you destroy a currency and make it worthless. Unless the corporations hoarding worth start spending it, there's no fixing this.
Buy local and delay the collapse if you don't want to deal with it... but basic income goes against how money works.
Can't print it, and can't just raise my taxes more to pay for it, since taking another 20k from me to turn around and give me 10k back doesn't help anything.
originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: introvert
We (our country) could eliminate poverty and save billions of dollars per year on health care costs and hundreds of other expenses if we had universal basic income, but then the medical industry, prisons and other Industrial Complexes wouldn't have their cash cows, so it would never happen.
I agree with you, not enough is done but that is completely by design.
Where do you get the money for that?
If no one decides to work because we all get the free ride, where does the money come from?
originally posted by: Greven
originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: introvert
We (our country) could eliminate poverty and save billions of dollars per year on health care costs and hundreds of other expenses if we had universal basic income, but then the medical industry, prisons and other Industrial Complexes wouldn't have their cash cows, so it would never happen.
I agree with you, not enough is done but that is completely by design.
Where do you get the money for that?
If no one decides to work because we all get the free ride, where does the money come from?
Money is colored paper/metal. Its value is what we collectively pretend it to be, as a means of facilitating exchange.
Money is not what you should be concerned about here.
originally posted by: lordcomac
Meanwhile, the girl next door doesn't have a job, but still manages to live in a house (not an apartment, a house- same as mine) and then spends her days riding the bus for free... all out of my pocket.
originally posted by: Bluntone22
originally posted by: Greven
originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: introvert
We (our country) could eliminate poverty and save billions of dollars per year on health care costs and hundreds of other expenses if we had universal basic income, but then the medical industry, prisons and other Industrial Complexes wouldn't have their cash cows, so it would never happen.
I agree with you, not enough is done but that is completely by design.
Where do you get the money for that?
If no one decides to work because we all get the free ride, where does the money come from?
Money is colored paper/metal. Its value is what we collectively pretend it to be, as a means of facilitating exchange.
Money is not what you should be concerned about here.
Tell the tax man you're going to pretend to pay your taxes.
Society needs a value based system. We use the dollar.
originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: Greven
I think I understood the reply.
I just disagree.
The whole idea of basic universal income will not work. When everyone gets their share for just existing , their share becomes valueless.
Having a base dollar value system is the only way to go. That also means "pretending" if you wish, that a piece of paper has a certain trade value.
If no one decides to work because we all get the free ride, where does the money come from?
originally posted by: olaru12
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: olaru12
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: olaru12
What chaps my ass is that when you win a nice tourny at the Casino, they take the tax immediately but you can't write it off when you lose.
But you can write off your loss in the stock mkt.
Perhaps it's different by state, but I believe you can write-off gambling losses as long as you file an itemized return.
Writing off gambling losses is one sure way to get targeted for a very ugly audit. No thanks!!!
That could be true. It would be a better idea not to lose that money to begin with.
Of course that's the idea. But I spend a lot of money on gambling, women and drinking....the rest I just squander.