Need help with strange occurrences

Back off people; he's a new member and this is his first thread. This is how you wish to welcome him to the site?!

He has come here seeking help for something that has frightened him; something that has no numbers to call for help from the phone book.

This is ATS! We are known to come together to find the answers that can't be found elsewhere, so let's do that.
Let's show him some kindness, okay?

I think most of us had to learn about not putting up a wall of text when we first joined, at least I did.

I have given Jason a name to contact, but in case they don't answer, does anyone else know a person that might be able to help guide him in the right direction for answers?

a reply to: Jasonfra0388

I'll try to be fair and not make rash assumptions about your case, but we all have serious issues with the details.

I find it unlikely that you can notice a "pale, grey skin at night when the being was some distance--about how far?--from you? Also, Being trigger happy despite your training doesn't fit the situation as some have pointed out. Were you riddled with fear out there with you rifle? Did you have a flashlight, hand or gun-mounted? Also, when did you track the blood trail? I can't imagine going up a ladder to a hayloft in the dark or even in daylight where a bleeding alien creature may have been waiting. That would go against all of the training you claim to have had in exactly similar circumstances.

Also be aware that you will most likely be met with skepticism since I would say 99% of the claims made by new users tend to be B.S.
But just in case you are that 1% that is genuine I will remain polite but still skeptical of your story.

First of all the distance in the story quoting 60 to 75 yards was referring to the distance from where the creature was standing when it was hit that distance is referring to the blood trail from that spot to the barn and I had a weapon mounted streamlight tlr-1 so I know what I saw sir and I have 5 witnesses with the blood the story was mentioned on this forum 5 years ago and that's because the girl I was seeing was taking care of this individuals mother in a nursing home and if u know anything about operating sir u would know there's two kinds of individuals ones who can harness the fear and react on a moments notice and the person that freezes under pressure I'm not on here to make a believer out of anyone I'm on here because I seen the post about me 5 years ago and I'm having similar experiences I can verify the info in the post

My girlfriend at the time confided in this individual because she took care of his mother and he evidently was informing her about Betty and Barney hill and she told him about our experiences the post is by a seekerlou 5 years ago him responding to sled735 about something she saw he talked about what my girlfriend had told him and I was trying to get in touch with him and he also said how concerned she was with the subject and how genuine of a person she was

The post is by seekerlou I team strange circumstances surround park disappearances u can go to the 4th page I believe it's the post by like I said before seekerlou responding to sled735 he talks about a cna confiding in him telling him her and her husband which we were not married we were engaged at that time he had several details wrong about the description also which I corrected in that post I can varify every bit of info I'm telling u about myself and about the events he was talking about locations names witnesses all the above and like I said I'm not trying to make anyone a believer I know what happened I know what I saw I know what I'm goin thru now I was looking for help and to talk to this particular individual

And in a reply to the blood sample and my creds it's pretty much common sense that when u hold several standing contracts with several respectable bonding companies and r part of a company who services include fugitive recovery and investigations high risk warrant service vip protection private security and u rely on it as income to support ur family u don't wanna be labeled a crazy person and even attempt to explain to the cops the event that just occurred and convince them that the blood was from an unknown creature that I just shot and as far as my writing skills I am not an author for a living and thanks for noticing

I would just like to caution fellow ATS members reading this thread -

- It is possible for a person to be highly trained, and experienced in the fields outlined in the OP and yet have great difficulty with self expression using the written word...

...especially for those who were born, raised, and never permanently left the Appalachian Mts. areas - I know, because even though I am 2nd generation Floridian (& 53 yrs. old), I grew up in close contact with my mother's people who are all quite literally 'Tennessee Hillbillies'..

So, while I understand that the deficits in writing ability could tend to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the story -

- I encourage everyone to temper the inclination to judgement on those 'deficits' and keep an open mind as to the veracity of the OP's experience...at least for the time being..

...I may be wrong, but at this point, he seems sincere to me..

a reply to: Jasonfra0388

You don't need to give the blood to the police you could send anonymous info to an agency like mufon along with a sample I'm sure they could get it tested in a lab.

Welcome to ATS Jason, not the most warming welcoming from our community, it has changed over the years..

Truely appreciate you coming here and sharing your experience, i know its not easy to live with these things, its even harder knowing you have to hide such experiences from the people you Love and the communities you belong too.

Its a strange universe we live in, a strange world within it.. know you are not alone in such experiences, thoughts that drill to the core of your mind, and the feelings from such an experience.

As for your writing, I could care less, writing is an expression of thoughts and if someone can't deal with it, they can move on. I read it just fine and your experience if true, is very striking.

I have seen and experienced creatures as you have described, although shorter. I am very aware there are a few types of "races" as there are many Human races... someone close to me has experienced the tall-thin-hairless creatures as well.

That you literally shot one and made it bleed is amazing, hard to believe, but I sense you are sincere or you wouldnt be wasting your time telling/asking about it on the Internet.

Also that it practically vanished as you tracked it.. two similarities i have experienced and friends i know have as well;

These things move rapidly, quietly, they stare and linger.. they vanish.

Ive experienced it and so has someone close to me. As for what to do? What can we do? Proving the experiences is impossible as these things clearly dont want to be seen or understood. They have no known identity, history, origin or anything to give us a lead.

One last pattern i noticed with your story; your children knew of them, they observed or experienced them in some way.. many children have and do see or experience weird creatures their parents dont understand.

I offer no leads for you, though i do hope you find the answers you seek.

a reply to: Elementalist

I agree with much of what you say but not this.

That you literally shot one and made it bleed is amazing, hard to believe, but I sense you are sincere or you wouldn't be wasting your time telling/asking about it on the Internet.

There is zero reason to shoot any creature unless they show hostility.
I appreciate the OP's post but also with my eyes the wall of text makes me actually dizzy so breaking it up was not an insult but to help others with my disability.

a reply to: SeaWorthy

Yes. I agree. He wou
Wow.

I will try again darling.

Ok typing to you is really difficult. I sense you have reasons for it. But i need my cellphone. Pls try to understand. İ d rather you not to break it, mix it all together or break its keyboard. Then we can converse.

But

If you are suggesting another way for that communication..you can still do it without breaking my phone. Am i wrong?

originally posted by: SeaWorthy
a reply to: Elementalist

I agree with much of what you say but not this.

That you literally shot one and made it bleed is amazing, hard to believe, but I sense you are sincere or you wouldn't be wasting your time telling/asking about it on the Internet.

There is zero reason to shoot any creature unless they show hostility.
I appreciate the OP's post but also with my eyes the wall of text makes me actually dizzy so breaking it up was not an insult but to help others with my disability.

Words making you dizzy? That's strange, i never get dizzy looking at something.

You know how many farmers and private property owners are armed nd ready to shoot any tresspassers on their property, especially peering in their windows and frightening their family?

When i was young me and a friend were chased by a farmer and his rifle for trespassing..

As for tresspassers, especially at night, especially on private property peering into windows freaking out families and staring... thats a no no and is not normal behavior.

Maybe OP called out warnings verbally before taking shots. Either way, tresspassing is a no no. Some military bases will shoot on sight for tresspassers, and they are suppose to protect people.

See where this logic falls apart? Persons like the OP and military who have such extensive training in their field of work, think and react differently then someone working a casual 9-5 type job..

Hopefully the OP expands on this experience coherently, its interesting nonetheless.

originally posted by: Jasonfra0388
And in a reply to the blood sample and my creds it's pretty much common sense that when u hold several standing contracts with several respectable bonding companies and r part of a company who services include fugitive recovery and investigations high risk warrant service vip protection private security and u rely on it as income to support ur family u don't wanna be labeled a crazy person and even attempt to explain to the cops the event that just occurred and convince them that the blood was from an unknown creature that I just shot and as far as my writing skills I am not an author for a living and thanks for noticing

Can you explain why you raised your gun and fired twice? In the op you just say...

one night I seen what at first I thought to be a very thin male on my property as I got a better ID on the individual I noticed it was not a person it was unlike anything I've ever seen in my life I never had any interest in extraterrestrial or paranormal activity events etc I was completely immersed in doin my job and training when I wasn't but this creature stood nearly 6 ft in heighth and I noticed it was completely hairless and had rather large eyes and pale grey skin it almost looked fragile in appearance I was armed I raised my carbine and fired two rounds aimed center mass of this thing

Where in your highly trained training did you get trained to shoot at someone (something)fragile unarmed and posing no threat to you? In your own words "it almost looked fragile in appearance I was armed I raised my carbine and fired two rounds aimed center mass of this thing"

How is your mental state when you see what you say you did and the first thing you think of is shoot it? Did kid in costume cross your mind?

A reply to: sled735

Thank You !!!!!! Phew....glad someone posted that!

Jason....I would not have collected a sample of blood either....you're not a forensic scientist , and not a paranormal hunter .....you're a bounty hunter who's not used to dealing with any paranormal . So your thought process is not on getting proof.....now, maybe the next time it happens I'd think twice and collect a sample...but hind sight is always hindsight . .....however, if I was a bounty hunter or in a profession similar , I would have security cameras, Hunter cameras, night vision door cams, maybe even lazer beam alarms on my property.... Especially since this thing has followed you....Do you have any of those ? I would think really hard about putting them up ASAP . You may need to catch this thing on video to be able to study it more, and find out what it is. The fact that it followed you is not good. Seems like You have been its target to begin with, especially if the children were saying the tall men were coming ....my guess is they are after the children, ...and I'd be asking my kids for any info on where, when, and what they've seen . The kids are the key .

Video is useless.. they'd just paint you as a hoaxer.
Even a fresh blood sample in the current environment is also useless, they'd just say it was fabricated.

You need to actually catch the sucker. and drag it onto the white house lawn screaming U.S.A.

then.. and only then.. they'll listen.

Or you could take the most common (and preferred by many here) road and just say 'meh not worth the drama'

Hi OP, you do seem to be backing up your story to a degree, mainly the looks of the creature and shooting it on site, as said in your OP.

Have you any more information that we can go on or discuss?

You need to actually catch the sucker. and drag it onto the white house lawn screaming U.S.A.

Haha, this is brilliant. Now, that would be a video worth watching..

BT