Freemasonry and The Coming Storm

@MamaJ
can you make something clear for me, maybe others, too. When you say "my lodge" what do you mean with this.

a reply to: RobertConrad

what is watchtower? like those in the sea?

originally posted by: verschickter
I wonder what your real intention here is, since you obviously circumvent many questions we are asking, while receiving honest answers from us. I don´t think you want real answers, though. That´s why I said be honest to your self. What are you doing, if not feeding your own bias again and again.

And not even keeping all of us straight in the replies. Still waiting on who is the claimed Atheist when no one said they were

originally posted by: verschickter
@MamaJ
can you make something clear for me, maybe others, too. When you say "my lodge" what do you mean with this.

If you read my posts from the beginning, "my lodge" is my local lodge and not to be mistaken as I am a member which Im not as Im female.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: verschickter
I wonder what your real intention here is, since you obviously circumvent many questions we are asking, while receiving honest answers from us. I don´t think you want real answers, though. That´s why I said be honest to your self. What are you doing, if not feeding your own bias again and again.

And not even keeping all of us straight in the replies. Still waiting on who is the claimed Atheist when no one said they were

Why keep distracting the thread from it's original intent? As I said before your posts are deleted because they are off topic and still continue to be. You said you were an atheist. Are you not? I do not care if you are and do not care if you worship the flying spaghetti monster. I was purposely not replying to you or the other poster because I didn't want to. All you are doing is distracting with little smart comments and taking away from the thread.

a reply to: MamaJ

I didn't see AM say/type he was an atheist.

Care to quote it?

originally posted by: MamaJ
As I said before your posts are deleted because they are off topic and still continue to be.

Report them.

You said you were an atheist. Are you not?

I said no such thing, ever.

I do not care if you are and do not care...

You obviously do since you made it a talking point of several posts and my spirituality has nothing to do with Memphis-Misraim Masonry.

I would be more than happy to discuss the topic, considering the Original Poster communicated his sources to me prior to posting, but it appears the majority of the replies, yours included, want to dissect what Regular Masonry entails and not discuss the Original Post.

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: MamaJ

I’m not going to argue the point about Buddha, but Masons as far as I know are merely required to believe in a supreme being that doesn’t have necessarily anything to do with religion.


Religion is don’t do this, don’t do that…believe in this, believe in that.

Of course, Masonry resembles religion in a limited regard but I wouldn’t call it a religion.

The NFL resembles a religion but it isn’t a religion.

I dont want you to argue any points nor do I want to engage in petty online bs lol I come here to get away from the hustle and bustle and get into cool conversations about mystical stuff which is why I found this thread to be of interest. This thread has been taken to a place it shouldn't all because I asked for clarification from a couple of posters then others jumped on the wagon and ran with assumptions.

If I really wanted clarification about my local lodge I'd ask the local Masons because I know and trust them. Also, they are very respectful men and highly respected them selves in our community. I can only speak on behalf of what I've learned from speaking to the Masons I know and what I've read. I also was told years ago to check out Manly Hall and have listened to all his lectures including the ones about Masonry. Not all Masons respect Manly just like they do not all respect Pike. Masons in different areas have different Masters therefore have different ways of doing things. With saying that it isnt really an accurate statement to say you are welcome in a lodge if you are an atheist because here in my city they do not welcome non believers.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Get on topic and stop worrying about my posts then. Seriously. If you say you didn't say you are an atheist and are not an atheist then so be it. I DO NOT CARE. I thought I read you saying that and also read you stating you despise Christianity AND religion. I'ts neither here nor there for me as I could care less.

Discuss the OP with you reply or don't reply back to me. Im over the bs.

originally posted by: MamaJ
I thought I read you saying that and also read you stating you despise Christianity AND religion.

I am not an Atheist and I indeed do despise all religions.

I'ts neither here nor there for me as I could care less.

Hence your burning interest.

Discuss the OP with you reply or don't reply back to me.

I am more than equipped to discuss the Original Post, as I stated, and anything else about Masonry. Sadly your very first post was filled entirely with general questions about Masonry and not about Memphis-Misraim. Do you have a question about this clandestine group?

a reply to: TerryDon79

It's been deleted because it was off topic .. I have said that a few times now in my posts.

an people get back on topic and stop replying to me unless it has to do with the OP? How about this.. I will just leave this thread. Some of you in this thread who call your self a Mason should go back and read this thread and think about how you could have been a better leader and brother to a sister. Your energy was spent going back and forth with snide and smart remarks. Such a joke and disappointment. To think some here are "High level" Mason is even a bigger joke as your character sure doesn't represent the title.

With that said, waste your time on trolling someone else because I am done wasting my time going back and forth with grown men.

a reply to: MamaJ

If you say you didn't say you are an atheist and are not an atheist then so be it. I DO NOT CARE.

For someone who "doesn't care", you sure go on a lot about it.

originally posted by: MamaJ
It's been deleted because it was off topic ..

Stop lying. I never said I was an Atheist.

a reply to: MamaJ

It wasn't deleted because it was never said. I've read all the posts before they got deleted and not 1 was where AM said he was an atheist.

a reply to: eisegesis

I was watching the Memphis Misraïm Ritual video in the op, and with no disrespect to the Brethren, I was wondering why the Ritual was conducted with such crude inexperience (my opinion). Then I read the details of the video, and discovered that some members of the Ordo Templi Orientis obtained the French Ritual, translated it into English, and proceeded to perform the Ritual at first-go.

This is the unedited video record of that afternoon, and our Fraternal OTO Brotherhood and Friendship. It is NOT a "How To" video, or an example of how it aught to be done, or TRUE Freemasonry or anything like that. It is merely several OTO Initiates studying all aspects of Freemasonry.. this being the only one video recorded with the facilities and stuff we had at the time.

With that in mind, my opinion has turned from condescension to respect. Without having prior knowledge or experience of the Ritual, and being from a completely different system, that was a very impressive demonstration by that OTO group.


P.S.
I guess that would account for the mural of Tahuti and Nut! I can not make out the third figure with my poor resolution.

(History)


God threw an Egyptian City into the Sea, Archaeology and the Gospel Records, for whatever reason (murder of the baby jesus) ... ... ... ... that is what likely began the Maccabee Accounts. There is a natural reason behind this, what happened, rather the accounts. God doesn't bless or enforce the euthanasia for the genetic lines with no legal right to live, before the events of revelation, but God has appeared to do exactly that surrounding the Birth of Jesus (Most Recently), until the Antichrist comes onto the scene (so that was true in the past, given the Antichrist is Moses by the gospel's accounts):

Anniversary of Judas (One of Two God uses in the New Testament, to illustrate Salvation not based on the body of jesus)
(First Parallel = 400 B.C. Zacharias/Buddha, Second Parallel = 400 A.D. for Constantine's Vision of Judas = 400 Year Intervals to Present)

An additional criticism of the historical authenticity of the Book of Mormon concerns linguistics. According to the text, the Nephites and the Lamanites initially spoke Hebrew (600 B.C.) and might have spoken a modified Semitic language until at least 400 A.D., when the Book of Mormon ends.[citation needed] The non-canonized introductory paragraph to the LDS Church 1981 edition of the Book of Mormon stated that the Lamanites were the "principal ancestors of the American Indians". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_authenticity_of_the_Book_of_Mormon

(400 Year Intervals in View) Going beyond that, if 1947 Roswell UFO Incident is 70 years for the Last Generation to 2017, then the Antichrist will be 34 Years by that time, (Declaration of Amos "34", as a Contradiction of the Gospel's Law), so he would of been born in 1981 or 1982. The Mormons are an Extension of the Macabees, and they are an extension of the Free Masons:

Anniversary of Moses (Two of Two) (Around 1400 B.C. Moses (Antichrist) begins the Exodus, then around 1400 A.D. t he Free Masons are formed)

The earliest masonic texts each contain some sort of a history of the craft, or mystery, of masonry. The oldest known work of this type, The Halliwell Manuscript, or Regius Poem, dating from between 1390 and 1425, has a brief history in its introduction, stating that the "craft of masonry" began with Euclid in Egypt, and came to England in the reign of King Athelstan. Shortly afterwards, the Cooke Manuscript traces masonry to Jabal son of Lamech (Genesis 4: 20–22), and tells how this knowledge came to Euclid, from him to the Children of Israel (while they were in Egypt), and so on through an elaborate path to Athelstan. This myth formed the basis for subsequent manuscript constitutions, all tracing masonry back to biblical times en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Freemasonry

Free Masons is really a third generation adaptation from the time of Jesus, assuming, God puts an end to tongs (hypocrisies and heresies between the church and state), by revealing the Sign of Divorce, to bless the removal of dead work and dead flesh and to anoint, his covenant that removes genetic lines with no legal right to live, to relieve the burden of the people, short summary below:

originally posted by: eisegesis

The Masonic Nation and the Magic
The Masonic Nation represents the Magic. The Magic is represented by the Egyptian M.E.A.P.R.M.M. (Freemasonry of the Ancient and Primative rite of Memphis Misraim), and by O.C.I. (order of the knights of the enlightened) C.D. (Worship Draconian - XXXI Dynasty) and the (Ecclesia E.G.S.U. Gnostic lanua Universalis).

(Long Story Short, without a Son of Man, God will do Nothing. Also, without Moses specifically, God will not resolve the Covenant. Two Times God allows the Body of Jesus to be revealed in the Earth, first with the birth of Jesus, and God elected Judas to serve as his "Express Image", which was to illustrate God's Intentions (to reduce the footprint of Jesus's Body). Now the Second time is the Antichrist, same argument of the "Express Image". Until that happens, God will not do anything, he will not resolve the covenant. (INRI - rather in context "O.C.I" the Black Knight Satellite, until God uses a portion of Nibiru to identify with the Equal Potential the Gospel is design to afford, with or without the Body of Jesus (in the limited instance of Judas and Moses), then God has an accusation against mankind to kill it with no sign and no vision. (Or as you witness with the ethnics in our nightly walks or as opportunistically as the have the opportunity to lay their hands on me).

M.E.A.P.R.M.M.
MENE MENE TEKEL UPHARSIN
KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS (Revelation)

Ecclesia E.G.S.U.
ELOI ELOI LAMA SABACHTHANI
BABYLON THE GREAT, MOTHER OF EARTH (Revelation)

These statements are not true until God resolves INRI (Inc*/Rape/Mur*) with the Son of Man), and also, reveals the Sign of Divorce. His intention to resolve the covenant. (then the snare of hypocrisies and heresies, God gave to rebuke the Church and State of Sin will be resolved, that is imposed for a season to reveal and try the faithful). Love and Blessings (based on what is necessary, the Antichrist may need to assist in ending about 1 billion lives, in that certain place and part of the world, during these 33 Days)

originally posted by: verschickter
Easy woven people fear what they don´t understand. This thread is the best example.

What is there to understand? Masonry is just another form of control, much like religion.

Do you really believe that Masons seek to better others with rituals of esoteric knowledge?

Ha!

If they REALLY believed that they wouldn't be so secret about these things which can help people.

The secrecy exists only draw initiates to their club.

Every Mason might as well be a Scientologist as far as I'm concerned.

originally posted by: Tempter
What is there to understand? Masonry is just another form of control, much like religion.

How is it a form of control? How are they controlling me?

I chose to join. I chose to go through my ceremony of initiation. I choose to attend the Lodge.

My family and my job always come first.

I can resign and leave Freemasonry if I choose to do so.

Where's the control?

i have always doubted religious texts and their stories, if i was gonna believe religious teaching i would like it to be about zeus throwing lightning bolts, if we are gonna make sh!t up, best to be some Good sh!t, not some guy getting whipped carrying some cross up a hill to get nailed to it, my Son of God would have shot lazers from his eyes like superman, and feed the 5000 with just fishes n bread.... pffft my S.O.G would have materialised a KFC...

interestingly the spanish pronounce Jesus..... Hey-Zeus.

ha.... maybe thats their secret lol.

a reply to: Tempter
Freemasonry is not about control, it's a volunteer organization.

Do you really believe that Masons seek to better others with rituals of esoteric knowledge?

Yes because it is true.

The secrecy exists only draw initiates to their club.

That's an assumption.

Every Mason might as well be a Scientologist as far as I'm concerned.

Yet another assumption.