Man Violently Dragged Off Plane After United Airlines Overbooks Flight

originally posted by: Edumakated
FAA rules require employees get like 10 hours of rest and it doesn't include time driving down to Louisville, so no they could not have rented a car.

However, they should have offered enough cash to get four people to give up their seats. It would have been easier in this situation to just offer like $2500/person cash and call it a day. I am sure they would have gotten volunteers. I think they offered like $800 with no takers. You keep upping it until someone thinks it is worth messing up their schedule.

You don't forcibly remove paying customers imho. This is a prime example of how certain employees cannot see the forest for the trees. The PR damage from this more than outweighs any costs of just offering a good amount to get people to give up their seats.

I hate United and only fly them because they have a lock on the Chicago market.

On another note, anyone who flies from Chicago to Louisville is an idiot imho. It is much easier to just drive. I do it a couple of times a year. 4.5 hours. It takes about that long to fly between check in, potential delays, picking up rental cars, etc.

Yeah but they don't offer cash, they offer airline vouchers. This happened to me on a flight I was on a few weeks ago. They started off with the $400 voucher, then $800... When I heard them increase it to $1600 i perked up and asked if it was cash or a travel voucher? It wasn't cash.

a reply to: slider1982

This is actually an extremely common practice. Airlines will overbook and then ask people to give up their seats. If enough people don't volunteer, they will randomly bump people. It's been happening this way for years now. Normally they don't do it when passengers have already boarded though.

I'd like to know at what time does purchasing a ticket from United result in dragging me out of my seat because you have a shotty database or purchasing system?

I'd like to know how that wouldn't be assault and battery, doesn't even matter law enforcement handled it, then that means law enforcement can drag you whereever whenever for nothing other than someone doesn't want you there?

Seems a bit wafty to me.


Not to mention, they just solved their over booking problem...

originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: intrptr
The other thing that always amazes me is the kind of people argue with authority figures, on a dark stretch of road, in jail, on a plane.

Okay carry your protest to a certain point, once the badge shows up though its game over. Just comply, your well being, your life is more valuable to you than to them.

The other point should be made is the flight attendant could have changed out from the good doctor to someone else, before calling security.

Next time...

If the route is so busy, maybe they should have flown multiple planes to that destination.

Thats why I'm having trouble with the official "overbooked" employees need your ride explanation.

For all I know it was some business class lear jet broke and some rich people wanted to get somewhere.

Make way for the King!

(pure speculation)

a reply to: intrptr

"once the badge shows up though its game over. Just comply"

appalling. kiss your freedoms goodbye

originally posted by: RoScoLaz5
a reply to: intrptr

"once the badge shows up though its game over. Just comply"

appalling. kiss your freedoms goodbye

Take it to court, later. Argue with police, kiss you ass goodbye.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

The goon squad needs to take all electronics before a good beat down. They also need jammers on site to guard against any slip up videos being streamed live.

I hope he takes them for more than they are worth. It looks to me that the land of the free is limited to those who wear a uniform of the law. feck!
I see too that their petsafe policy can mean your per could die..several stories there.

www.change.org...

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: SeaWorthy

Following your view black people would be riding back of the bus and giving up seats to whites.

You missed my point of view entirely.

Sorry if I did. My opinion don't go easy and if no one does they will eventually have to stop penny pinching and stop overbooking. We are not treated with respect anymore by banks by airlines by anyone because now everyone just acts like they all have rights and we don't. People have been fluoridated enough now I guess, this would never have happened when I was young the whole plane full of people would have been on their feet walking out with him.

a reply to: intrptr

That the police let themselves become the 'muscle' for United's commercial interests should trouble everyone.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

I really hope theres a significant boycott.

Wouldnt mind seeing some jail time for those "security" fellas either.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Precisely why I dont fly within the US. I dont fly often, but when I do its Lufthansa to Italy.

originally posted by: Urantia1111
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I really hope theres a significant boycott.

Wouldnt mind seeing some jail time for those "security" fellas either.

There won't be a boycott. People talk a good game, but all the sheeple are greedy and will right back on United and any other airline trying to save $20 on their airfare. This is why the airlines treat people so bad. They know all people want is cheap fares and thus they have no real incentive to improve customer service.

Why worry about customer service is 95% of your passsengers just go to Travelocity or whoever and pick the lowest fare? You can have the best service in the world, but if the public won't pay for it then it doesn't do anyone any good.

a reply to: seasonal

I've learned that jammers can affect pace makers and other wifi / bluetooth medical devices.

I only learned this after wondering why more jammers aren't used to prevent these types of things, then I found out from some knowledgeable friends.

It's also consider theft of airwaves and is punishable by law, least in the US.


Even tires on cars, among MANY other parts on newer vehicles are using bluetooth and other connectivity mediums.

Cars use bluetooth in tires to check pressure and more.

originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: slider1982

This is actually an extremely common practice. Airlines will overbook and then ask people to give up their seats. If enough people don't volunteer, they will randomly bump people. It's been happening this way for years now. Normally they don't do it when passengers have already boarded though.

That is my point, at what moment is it ok to assault someone if they do not comply?, I have heard people being asked if they "minded" giving up their seat but never have I heard someone getting knocked the f#ck out if they didn't.

United are going to have a sh1t storm over this and quite rightly so, where is the common sense from the crew when this was taking place or the Police officers for that matter??.. The truly sad part is they obviously thought it was ok, would you stand back and allow this to happen on your shift?, I certainly wouldn't and hiding behind policy is frankly a absurd notion when someone is treated like this..

Thank god he didn't have a heart attack when he was subjected to this.



RA

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: Urantia1111
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I really hope theres a significant boycott.

Wouldnt mind seeing some jail time for those "security" fellas either.

...There won't be a boycott. People talk a good game, but all the sheeple are greedy and will right back on United and any other airline trying to save $20 on their airfare...

Exactly. A plane full of people watched a fellow passenger get assaulted and dragged off the plane and did nothing to intervene on his behalf. "I care, but not enough to maybe get kicked off the plane myself."

originally posted by: Urantia1111
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I really hope theres a significant boycott.

Wouldnt mind seeing some jail time for those "security" fellas either.

Nobody got off the plane for $800 i doubt there will be anyone boycotting them for free

a reply to: Edumakated

Even if they would have offered a couple extra flight vouchers.
Id give up my seat on one flight for a GUARANTEED seat on 3...

originally posted by: kamatty

originally posted by: Urantia1111
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I really hope theres a significant boycott.

Wouldnt mind seeing some jail time for those "security" fellas either.

Nobody got off the plane for $800 i doubt there will be anyone boycotting them for free

Since they will have a chice in who they buy thwir next ticket from, it would surprise me if they would pick United.

originally posted by: rockintitz
a reply to: Krazysh0t

United has without a doubt the worst service I've ever experienced in the airline industry.

But this is just on another level.

I'm not so sure about that. Most American airlines in general have horrible service compared to international airlines.

American, United, Delta, all have horrible service. They have ugly stewardesses too. Old, fat hogs instead of the slim, young, pretty stewardesses found elsewhere.