Why is the Trump presidency such a rolling disaster?

originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: Logarock

Classical.....in all fairness. Trump has inherited Obamas failed center piece to the war on....NO Health Care?

And what a bang-up job he's done of "repealing and replacing" it LOL.

Well let's see,
That little prison in Cuba is still open after eight years.
We still have how many troops in Iraq?
Did you get that $2500 insurance savings yet?

How long ago did we get those promises?

It's been ten weeks. He has made an attempt. He will make more attempts.

He will fail to do everything he promised just like every other president.

And now for a brief and stimulatingly intellectual intermission. Joe is quite the speaker. His onstage persona beats the crap out of the lame representation of Congressional debate I watched the day the Trumpcare Died. He's even better than Jesse Ventura, I'd wager!




Maybe we should encourage Joe to run for Congress!!

a reply to: BuzzyWigs


He was not "presidential"
He will probably never be what we have become used to seeing in a president.
People were tired of that same old suit.

you will likely never think he did a good job.
I never thought Obama did a good job other than not getting caught with a woman.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Congress will never pass Bernie's bill. There's no money in the country to provide insurance for every American.

originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Congress will never pass Bernie's bill. There's no money in the country to provide insurance for every American.

If you show them a pie chart in bright colors that illustrates how much money will be SAVED BY HOUSEHOLDERS because they won't have to shop for insurance, get denied for any reason, have huge deductibles that negate the whole idea anyway, they might get it.

The numbers. Show them the math, and a pretty pie chart. Seriously. Prove to them beyond a doubt that what you are saying is true. Didn't Ryan have a PowerPoint thing recently?

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: BuzzyWigs


He was not "presidential"
He will probably never be what we have become used to seeing in a president.
People were tired of that same old suit.

you will likely never think he did a good job.

I understand entirely why you would say that! And you know what? I thought of that the other day. You see, I'm really really stretching myself beyond my comfort zone with this whole thing. I think you are right that the vast majority who are entrenched in either camp will NOT LIKELY have a change of heart, and I want to address it.

The fact is that I have had some very heavy discussions with very smart people about what I'm doing here at all. I'm face to face with it, and I am actively and painfully working on that, every day. I wish more of us were willing to revisit the reality now that we've all seen the first episode.




As In: So what the hell are we doing and should we continue? Like nighttime at the Hunger Games. It's absurd in many ways.

originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Congress will never pass Bernie's bill. There's no money in the country to provide insurance for every American.

Well, actually there is when you consider that the US spends as much as the next 10 nations combined on Military. Take even a fraction of that expenditure and you would have free healthcare for all AND enough left over to help solve other issues like homelessness.

Coming from a country that HAS free universal healthcare I can say without a shadow of a doubt that it is a FAR better system than America has now.

a reply to: OrionHunterX

Hmmmm....could it be that everyone on the left has stopped doing their jobs and are attempting to keep Trump from getting anything done? Personally, I think he has done more positive things for the people than Obama ever did. He has a crap-load to fix before he can even move on to new topics and problems.

Obama left a horrible mess. Trump is still cleaning it up with the left re-dumping the trash during the process.

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
a reply to: OrionHunterX

Hmmmm....could it be that everyone on the left has stopped doing their jobs and are attempting to keep Trump from getting anything done?

Nope.

Next?

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Obama left a horrible mess. Trump is still cleaning it up with the left re-dumping the trash during the process.

Could you, will you, kindly explain more about what leads you to believe this?

I'm really not at all able to imagine any facts that would back that up.
Looking forward to seeing your data.

Trump is a barely functioning narcissist. I say barely, because under the spotlight of the presidency, the facade is falling apart around him, and both his mental and physical health are already clearly deteriorating. His endeavor at being a president will be about as successful as his business ventures, ie. almost all with fail horrible yet he'll claim he's won 115% of everything he's ever done, ever, and trumpette's will eat it up like thirsty folk guzzling seawater (because cognitive bias is the only thing sustaining their warped worldview anymore).

I am absolutely gleeful at his failure on all accounts, and I wish him nothing but pain, suffering, and embarrassment till he shrugs off that nasty mortal coil.

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
a reply to: OrionHunterX

Hmmmm....could it be that everyone on the left has stopped doing their jobs and are attempting to keep Trump from getting anything done? Personally, I think he has done more positive things for the people than Obama ever did. He has a crap-load to fix before he can even move on to new topics and problems.

Obama left a horrible mess. Trump is still cleaning it up with the left re-dumping the trash during the process.

It's not that they quit doing their jobs, they are actively being subversive like the treasonous cowards they are...to quote the left, paraphrased, "If we can't have everything handed to us free, without lifting a finger to earn anything, then the Country must fall." Treasonous bastards, the lot of the current Marxists...er, Democrats...

We better hope President Trump succeeds, we've already seen how the Left is 100% in the tank for Globalism...which basically means dismantling the US economy, which Obama clearly made a run at and Mrs. Clinton clearly indicated she intended to continue, and handing our Nation's wealth to countries like Iran (you know, like the Billion or so Obama transferred to them under cover of night).

a reply to: OrionHunterX

One word - "establishment". The establishment is successfully derailing Trump every step of the way. They are so afraid that Trump is going to pull them from their teat of power and money, they are out to prove that we can't function as a country without them, and a monkey wrench has been thrown in their agenda of globalization (read NWO). They were taken aback when the zombies they thought they had created voted in Trump, and didn't coronate their CFR sweetheart Hillary.

a reply to: OrionHunterX

Simple the Dems lost and have been inciting violence, and calling the left to fight him and go against everything. Also it also obvious he is a outsider and for the people. The establishment wants the control back. Government is suppose to be for the people not the politicians like the left thinks. All this bs has come due to politicians losing power and the people gaining power. Left and right can't have the people having any power.

Never have I seen so many videos of politicians asking people to fight back. Sure lets start a internal fight to ensure failure or power swap. I don't see America ever being able to unite.

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: 4N0M4LY
a reply to: DJW001

Well no one said democracy was flawless and perfect? Obama was apparently a savior to the lefies on here. I have no opinion on either. The US is frakked either way.

The least you can do is admit that the whining about Trump is no worse than the whining about Obama. And whereas all the charges leveled at Obama proved to be groundless, the charges against Trump are leading to resignations in disgrace.

Your joking right? Comparing the lefts complaining to the Obama years? I must have missed something here. I can say they both had whiners sure, but this is unprecedented. I also do not remember republicans calling its following to push back. If they did it was nowhere near the number of anti-Trump calls from politicians and people in power. Obama did not have Hollywood against him so hard either if at all!

a reply to: OrionHunterX

The polarity is so intense with the past and the future that the now is short circuited! Mankind's governments are flawed just like mankind is! The answer my friend is out of Chaos comes Order and that is nature at it's highest degree! However mankind just repeats history sadly.

Just randomly noticing there appears to be a new crop of commentators.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
Just randomly noticing there appears to be a new crop of commentators.

Is that a problem?

Meh. I didn't vote for a polished, practiced insider politician.

I voted for a jerk who I hoped could stick it to the establishment on both sides of the aisle. And maybe, just maybe, could weed out the bureaucracy.

My biggest disappointment right now is if he is turning on the Freedom Caucus. I follow the conservative social media and those channels are letting him know unequivocally that if he tries to get primary contenders against the FC then he is on his own. The Establishment GOP is not his friend.

The rest, yeah whatever. I can see how some people who are used to big government would see him as a disaster. To each their own.

Judicial Activism from liberal oligarchs has been his biggest problems with his EOs.

originally posted by: thesaneone

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
Just randomly noticing there appears to be a new crop of commentators.

Is that a problem?

Not in the least. Is it okay with you if I look around the room for a few moments? Or what. You want me to stay in the hall? LOL!!!!


We have some new members joining our group here.

Welcome, new members! We are one section of the ATS group for discussion of US political madness.




....don't run them off. They might have valuable things to say.