U.S. Coastguard Acushnet UFO Incident - Removal of Naval Logbooks.

'It was an old ship, so I wasn't overly freaked until I saw what everyone was staring up at. Prototypical Saucer with lights hovering at 190 degrees to port, and at 1000 yards elevated'.  

Originally posted by Spacevisitor over on the USO Research thread this case looks to be quite an interesting one and involves claims of a daylight, close range sighting of a flying, grey, domed, saucer shaped object by crew aboard the U.S. Coastguard Cutter Acushnet on maneuvers between Miami and Cuba in 1977.

UFO Hovering At 190 Degrees To Port Plays Havoc Aboard Cutter Acushnet In 1977





HBCC UFO Research Note: Here is another example of what I believe to be a cover up as the witnesses mentions in his letter/report. I know I have personally heard many stories from servicemen and woman who along with their shipmates have been witness to some unusual crafts which were maneuvering in ways that are not known here on earth.

Message: I saw a UFO in 1977 while serving on the U.S. Coast Guard Cutter Acushnet. It messed with our communications and compasses, and was redirected by 2 Phantoms which appeared suddenly. The Log Book was removed. Can you say cover up?

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Well, Sir, I was a (removed by HBCC due to it giving away who this person was/is). I was coming on watch when the General Quarters alarm went off. We lost steering while towing a Giant new "Meteorological" buoy toward Cuba. (Get it?) As I entered the Bridge I was also informed that the electronics and auxiliary were malfunctioning.

It was an old ship, so I wasn't overly freaked until I saw what everyone was staring up at. Prototypical Saucer with lights hovering at 190 degrees to port, and at 1000 yards elevated. The tow line was limp, and the buoy shrouded in a bizarre fog. Two Phantoms sped toward it at an angle above/abeam and it moved at incredible speed vertical zig-zag until out of sight about 4 seconds .

After a brief meeting in the C/O's cabin, the log I was keeping was replaced, and I was told by a 1st class P.O. who moments before sounded like he was crapping bricks from his bow station ("Get me someone else down here!"). That it never happened, and if I know what's good for me I won't say anything more about it. Detailed enough?

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Lots of different aspects to this testimony including a bizarre fog, E.M. effects (loss of steering, engine and electronics), highly unusual UFO flight characteristics and pursuing F4 Phantom Navy jets but what stood out for me were the subsequent orders never to discuss the incident and removal of naval log books (which isn't the first time this has been reported).

Below is quite an in depth interview with one of the witnesses where he goes into more detail about the object (red and green undulating lights); how there was no noise and the atmosphere around it 'vibrated'; how the ship's compass was spinning '360" and how all the ship's functions restarted once the UFO departed.

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Witness claims that during ship operations, while towing some type of buoy (possibly and electronic functioning buoy) per normal Coast Guard vessel operations, early in the morning after daylight, on some date between 1976 and 1977, the ship he was on lost all electric power, lost its engines and the tow line attached to the buoy was no longer visible. He states the compass on the bridge was also was gyrating 360 degrees.

The witness states the ship (USCGC Acushnet - WAGO 167), went to General Quarters and as he ran up the ladder towards the bridge outside the ship to his assigned duty post, he looked aft and noticed a fog-like cloud just off the stern of the ship cloaking to buoy that was being towed and also noticed a grey hovering disc-shaped craft approximately 500 feet in the air just behind the ship.

If you or someone you know witnessed this event please contact Florida MUFON at [email protected]

Other UFO testimony about the removal of Naval logbooks / Do not discuss:

USS Waldron,1968-Near Puerto Rico:

They were tracking two bright lights, that didn't answer up to IFF – they weren't enemy, friend, foe or commercial aircraft. And were flying at speeds in excess of 400 knots and making turns at right angles. Nothing we knew of could do this but they did.

We were on an operation called Racer Run near Puerto Rico. Ship officials supposedly logged a report to Washington but we never heard anymore about it.

I've told several people about this and many acted as if I had 3 heads, but I have witnesses and evidence: there were about 20 in the 2 bridge watch sections, the combat watch sections (CIC), the ships log and the report sent to Washington.

Captain of Navy R5D aircraft,February 8,1951:

Crew members and passengers witnessed UFO emerging from the Atlantic ocean:

When we landed at Argentia (Newfoundland), we were met by intelligence officers. The types of questions they asked us were like Henry Ford asking about the Model T.
You got the feeling that they were putting words in your mouth.
It was obvious that there had been many sightings in the same area, and most of the observers did not let the cat out of the bag openly. When we arrived in the United States, we had to make a full report to Navy Intelligence..
I found out a few months later that Gander radar did track the object in excess of 1800 mph".

Submarine repair ship 'The Volga' ,October 7, 1977.


"Were such reports made public?"

Azhazha shook his head no. "At the time, naturally, they were classified top secret. Now we have a more open attitude in this country. We are able to talk about such things. On a few rare occasions I did publish some UFO information, but I paid for it under Leonid Brezhnev.The official reaction was very harsh, very negative. My career suffered as a result, and the directorship of a scientific group was taken away from me."

Carrier USS Kearsarge:

The cameraman was able to get some photos, not sure how many, before they all took off almost straight up and out of sight.
The cameraman turned the film into to his superior officer and was told to not ever mention it. My dad said he and his friend were asked about the incident by their NCO and also told not to ever talk about it.

USS Reclaimer:

The F-14 went to full afterburner right off the deck, pulling a rooster-tail7 behind it. It rattled the ship severely as it went by. This USO thing pulled easily ahead of the jet, crossed the horizon in seconds while underwater... no visible wake. It just... I mean this thing was FAST. Well, we just stood there. Wow, you know... what do ya say. We speculated about what it was. Guam told us it was a classified matter not to be reported or discussed.

USS Reeves:

All of a sudden I lost Sonar Contact like it was never there, but CIC still had it at last bearing with an abrupt positive altitude change. The chatter was look at the size of that thing. I went outside through the sonar door on the Port Side and visually saw a large moonlike shape that flew upward over the ship at a 60 degree angle and disappeared into the sky in seconds. I heard no noise from the object when it went over us. I saw a full moon that night on the other side of the ship, but it remained fairly constant give or take a few ship rolls.

When we pulled into port a few weeks later, all records in the Bridge, CIC, and Sonar logs about that time were torn out. Whoever tore them out made one error, the pen imprint on the next page was still there. No one spoke of the incident again

Feb 1963 Royal Navy North Atlantic Fleet:

After Tom witnessed the senior officer enter the UFO observations in the radar log book, their shift ended. Radar room personnel on the early morning watch ate breakfast and then turned in. Probably sometime between 1200 and 1300, Tom said he was awakened and ordered to report to the ward room, along with the five radar and sonar operators on his shift that morning.

The senior officer proceeded to go over the events of that morning, asking questions about the radar-sonar observations.He told the six men that their conversations were being taped and explained that until more was known about the unknown target, they were to remain silent about what they had seen. "Gentlemen," the officer said, "we will remember that we have all signed the Official Secrets Act (or words to that effect)." Although there were no threats, the implication was clear that to divulge anything to anyone concerning the tracking of the UFO would be considered a breach of security.
I asked Tom if the meeting might have been part of a general order carried out on other ships in the fleet as well in connection with the UFO incident. He responded that he didn't know if it was or not.
The witness recollected that he was in the ward room about 10 minutes. He said he never heard anything further about the unknown target.
When Preston came on duty once again at 2400 hours, he said he was surprised to discover that a "spanking new book" had replaced the radar log used the previous morning.

You always present great stuff Karl. I so enjoy your threads. This is certainly a new story for me. (Bonus!)
Listening to the video it sure didn't sound like a guy making something up either. Lot of detail and a steady flow as he told of his experience.

The log books being change is quite curious indeed.

Thanks for sharing this

Continued:

USS Edenton

During one of my scans of the night sky, out of know where, four red circular lights appeared. The lights where hundreds of yards apart from each other and formed a square.
After relaying the contact information a second time, the four lights, in a flash, darted towards the horizon amazingly linkfast. The lower two lights in the square went first, with the top two lights following directly behind them in a curved swooshing motion and there was no sound.
Next, after a half hour had passed since the sighting, the radiation detection system (gamma roentgen meter) on the bridge started making a loud clicking sound. At first, no one seemed to know what was making this sound then a very loud bell went off notifying us as to what was going on, we were being radiated.

The captain stated not to log the instance concerning the radiation exposure and left the bridge. During the rest of my watch duty that night, no officer or enlisted person spoke of what happened, and also acted liked nothing happened.

USS John F. Kennedy

So we exited the Communications Center and went to the catwalk on the port side of the ship on the edge of the flight deck and we observed a large glowing sphere over the ship. It was hard to decide what size this thing was because there was no perspective. It was late in the evening. The sun had gone down, it was twilight, but it looked huge…

After that, I talked to a few shipmate friends that I had on the ship. One in particular worked in the radar department and he was on watch during the incident. He told me that all the radar screens were glowing- and then nothing. They couldn’t detect anything on radar. We stayed up most of the night talking about it.

We heard that the compasses were not working on the bridge and that the radar navigational system had gone offline…

A few days later the Commanding Officer and the Executive Officer came on the closed circuit television system that we had on board. It was the only way that they could address the crew of 5,000. He [the Commanding Officer] looked at the camera - and I will never forget this - and he said, "I would like to remind the crew that certain events that take place on board a major naval combative vessel are considered classified and should not be discussed with anyone without a need to know." And that was all he said.

Sonar operator Account -British Destroyer Warship:

One of Sanderson's sources stated that no less than 13 craft recorded in their logs that their sonars had tracked this object. Allegedly, the unknown target continued to be tracked for four days as it maneuvered down to depths of 27,000 feet! (This must have been in the vicinity of the Atlantic's deepest point -- 28,374 feet below sea level -- in the Puerto Rico Trench.)
If the above story is true, nothing of known earthly origin can travel underwater at such speeds or maneuver at such depths. The fastest nuclear subs can attain 45 knots (52 miles per hour) and dive to around 3,000 feet. The bathyscaphe Trieste, with a specially constructed pressure-resistant hull, descended to a record 35,820 feet in 1960. However, it was incapable of maneuvering about.

It is unfortunate that more than 21 years elapsed before the Preston case reached the attention of a UFO investigator. We have here yet another example of government UFO secrecy at work--this time a foreign nation, Great Britain. Largely due to his apprehension over potential repercussions if he revealed his experience,Tom felt compelled to keep his knowledge of the event to himself. Since it hadn't occurred to him at the time that the radar log notes would be removed,he had only his memory to rely upon during our interviews

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Links:

WaterUFO - Master List

Introduction to the First Update of the Catalogue of UFOs/USOs Reported by Seagoing Services

Great thread!

Between this one, the one you linked, and the most recent one, that I think Springer started, I have to ask: What is going on with our bodies of water?
IF it is someone or something, not from earth, what do they want with our water?

There are just so many "sightings" of "ships" coming up out of the water, then flying away.

I wonder if there are any sightings of them going into the water?

a reply to: onehuman

Appreciate the reply mate, he doesn't seem to be making it up to me either and I can well believe the orders (in so many cases) handed down to crew by Naval superiors not to discuss these incidents does actually occur.

Don't know if you've seen this thread but there's some other relevant info on the US. Navy and missing UFO information (2nd and 3rd post) - apparently they've never released a single document about the subject and many folks [including me) think the Office of Naval Intelligence are heavily involved in it.


2000MPH UFO Incident Sparks U.S. Navy UFO Investigation.

Cheers.

originally posted by: chiefsmom

There are just so many "sightings" of "ships" coming up out of the water, then flying away.

I wonder if there are any sightings of the going into the water?

Plenty of reports about unknown objects being witnessed submerging into (and emerging from) the world's oceans mate - Skyfoating's USO thread which is linked above contains quite a number of examples (all 38 pages of it).

Don't know if you've looked into the research of these two chaps but if you're interested in the subject then it's well worth the effort on a rainy day.

An almost forgotten gem of UFOlogy...Sanderson reminds us of the hard yet oft-forgotten fact of UFOlogy, which is, most UFOs seem inextricably connected with water - They are very frequently seen entering and leaving water, moving through or above water, and otherwise interacting with water. Sanderson explores all the implications of this, leading him to postulate that most UFOs are actually USOs - Unidentified Submerged Objects, and their pilots, these other intelligences (OINTS), may have evolved alongside of humanity but under the sea.

Forgotten UFO Researcher Ivan T. Sanderson.

"UFOs have approximately 75% of this planet in which to operate undetected.Adding another piece to the puzzle. From dissimilar puzzle pieces supplied by ufologists throughout the years of UFO history, a picture is starting to take shape. Ufologist Carl Feindt has not only contributed his own small piece, but he has also connected many of the previous pieces to form an enlightening and highly plausible theory.Feindt’s studies concern Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) that enter and exit the dense medium of water. This aspect aroused his curiosity, because while we humans do no understand alien science, we do know our water. This book contains cases from just about every type of body of water, from puddles to oceans. It opens a long-overlooked door to discover the operating principles of UFOs by closely observing water’s reaction to these craft and finding similarities among cases involving water.“[Carl Feindt] did an excellent job of describing the movement of UFOs in water, entering water, leaving water, and moving above the water...and what the water conditions can tell us about the mechanics of the operation of the vehicles.”

John F. Schuessler, Former International Director of MUFON

'UFOs and Water' ~ Carl W. Feindt.

Cheers.

Skeptics must've been REALLY brainwashed to not believe there's something going on and that it's not from this planet.

I don't know what or who they are, but I'm very sure it's not man made.

Great story and with credible sources, gotta love it! Thanks for sharing. S+F!

Lots of different aspects to this testimony including a bizarre fog, E.M. effects (loss of steering, engine and electronics)

There it goes again. It's not that that makes the Spider Sense tingle, it's the radiation. When you have accounts of faint radiation, you have suits showing up then blanket silence.

a reply to: karl 12


when assesing the veracity of annecdotes like this its details like :

" 190 degrees to port "

which in the real world = 170 degrees to starboard

which make me wonder - has the claimant ever set foot on a maritime vessel ?

ETA : corrected fundamental error

originally posted by: ignorant_ape


which make me wonder - has the claimant ever set foot on a maritime vessel ?

Pretty weak rebuttal there mate -I thought he stood up to questioning quite well and his knowledge of USG protocol and use of naval terminology indicated that yes indeed he had 'set foot on a maritime vessel'.

a reply to: karl 12

so the explaination for " 190 degree to port " is ????????????????

originally posted by: [post=22083924]ignorant_ape[/post

so the explaination for " 190 degree to port " is ????????????????

Just re-watched the interview and he doesn't say it -below is part of the transcipt where he's being questioned about orientation and he's absolutely indicating port side down -MUFON have his full personal details so maybe they could ask him about '190 degrees to port' (I really will contact them and ask them to do that).

Also have to ask if you actually watched the vid before posting as he's pretty specific in parts and truly does seem to know his way around a naval vessel.

In your orientation what direction were you facing when your were looking at the object when you came out of the hull of the ship?


well first I was facing aft towards the very back of the boat and then when I turned to my right to start going up to another ladder that's when I saw it - it was off the port down or the left part of our boat


So you saw the object of the back left or port, did you say port side?


Yes left side towards the rear, it was the left , it was pretty much aft

Cheers.

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: karl 12

so the explaination for " 190 degree to port " is ????????????????

That one quote jumped out at me too but on reflection I concluded that he actually meant it was at a bearing of 190 degrees from the direction of travel of the ship which would indeed place it to their port side astern.

a reply to: karl 12

a reply to: PheonixReborn

no i has not watched the vid - i cannot at moment - but the " print article " - contains the quote - and that is written in the 1st person - and was published in 2006 - so thats 11 years to allow for " corrections " - but still there it is

i will re-itterate :

" 190 degree to port " makes zero sense - however you attempt to rationalise it

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: karl 12

a reply to: PheonixReborn

no i has not watched the vid - i cannot at moment - but the " print article " - contains the quote - and that is written in the 1st person - and was published in 2006 - so thats 11 years to allow for " corrections " - but still there it is

i will re-itterate :

" 190 degree to port " makes zero sense - however you attempt to rationalise it

It could quite easily have been a mistranscription of his actual words. Add a comma and it makes more sense: "190 degrees, to port."

a reply to: PheonixReborn

err no it does not - please look at a compass or protractor

190 degrees measured from the vessel = to starboard - not port

thare are 2 ways of giving a bearing :

1 - from the vessel centreline , this is only used for on-board communications - as other vessels dont know the heading of anyother vessel

2 - compass bearing - used to alert other vessels and for navigation purposes

further - during this alledged incident - he claims the vessel " lost steering " and suffered " compass malfunction "

so - this 190 degrees - cannot be a compass bearing

a reply to: ignorant_ape

As I said, I presumed he was using criteria 1. You do realise that degrees are measured clockwise and there are 360 degrees in a full circle? That means that 180 degrees is dead astern and a further 10 degrees to give the quoted 190 is therefore on the port side of the ship.

You do realise that port is left when facing the bow and starboard is right? Don't you?

a reply to: PheonixReborn

are you taking the piss ?

a reply to: karl 12

Another good one Karl, some of my favorite cases are USO. One would think we could track down the other men on these ships and get more confirmation, but there is that built in secret oath(military cases) and ridicule that plagues this phenomenon.