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I am a man. See.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Gryphon66
But since no one knows for sure in that situation what the suspect actually is, the situation does not call for it. If we have to avoid calling our suspects by their race for racial discrimination reasons, then we also have to avoid calling them by their gender because we likewise do not know what their gender preferences are and to make assumptions would be to risk offense.
Sure, we can all assume that the suspect is a black male or a white male, but you never know ... he might be feeling feminine and thus identifying as a she that day as a gender fluid individual. Also, she might be uncomfortable with the racial classification of black or white. You never know when you are dealing with a self-professed Martian or even Tiamat the dragon woman's long lost cousin. It would not do to get these things wrong and cause offense.
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: seasonal
So your point is not that the AP wanted to change the use of three words, you want to argue with their incidental explanation?
Did you think they intended that as a political statement?
Besides that fact there are people who are intersex. So technically since you want to quibble ... they're right (at least in terms of medical science).
originally posted by: violet
It's confusing .
Can somebody provide example sentences on the wrong and right ways?
soon we will not be allowed to say we are female / male.
Olympic rules will change.
All the greeting cards "congratulations on your baby boy" will be a thing of the past because that little boy might have been born with gender issues and it's wrong to label him as soon as he's born.
originally posted by: seasonal
The AP urged it journalists to avoid using men and women in stories, this suggests there are only 2 sexes in the human race. What?
www.washingtontimes.com...
In a Friday email to subscribers listing updated entries for its style manual, the Associated Press is urging journalists to avoid making references in news stories that suggest there are only two sexes in the human race.
So basically avoid calling people men or women. Use they, them or their when referring to people. All this to please such a small % of people who may or may not be insulted? Odd that the AP would take this stance and inform their "journalists".
“Not all people fall under one of two categories for sex or gender, according to leading medical organizations, so avoid references to both, either or opposite sexes or genders as a way to encompass all people. When needed for clarity or in certain stories about scientific studies, alternatives include men and women, boys and girls, males and females.”
For its part, the AP advises writers that while “n most cases, a plural pronoun should agree in number with the antecedent …. when alternative wording is overly awkward and clumsy” it may be permissible to use they, them, or their to refer to an individual. “However, rewording usually is possible and always is preferable” because “[c]larity is a top priority” in news reporting and “gender-neutral use of a singular they is unfamiliar to many readers.