UFO reported by workers on Off Shore Oil Rig Supply Vessel in the Gulf of Mexico 21 March, 2017

a reply to: tigertatzen

No one is doing brain surgery offshore in a work environment...good grief.

Yes there are dangers, no different than being a carnival ride operator...

Skilled people have A LOT of time...i know.

Mg:

Here is one example of restrictions in photography. Safety is serious.

Taking pictures on an offshore oil rig is serious business. For starters, due to the risk of flammable gas coming up the oil well, normal electronics are banned outside the living quarters. Smartphones are strictly forbidden and regular cameras require “hot work permits” be opened prior to use.

The idea behind the permit system is that all potentially hazardous activities must be centrally coordinated by a responsible/accountable person, to ensure that risks are managed appropriately and ongoing operations do not interfere with each other. The permit must be signed by the rig’s on-board management and posted in a central location. The permit then expires when the approver’s shift ends. Even once the permit is approved, you still need to carry a gas detection device when taking pictures, to provide a warning if flammable gas is present. It’s kind of a pain.

So to avoid that hassle, we use explosion-proof cameras. It sounds cooler than it is.

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Flash forward about six years, and working with explosion-proof equipment is now a part of my job responsibilities. We use airtight seals, gas purges, current-limiting devices, and all sorts of other methods to ensure nothing ever starts a fire if there is a gas release. This is a highly regulated area of engineering with very strict design requirements. Level sensors inside gasoline tanks, blower fans for grain silos, and coal mine excavators all must be designed according to tight standards such as ATEX.

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After reading multiple threads on other boards from workers on those rigs, it's clear it's hit or miss. One guy said they were always allowed to have their cellphones on GOM rigs and boats (and would get service up to 80 miles.. after 80, no service), another said banned. Others depended on the company. Some follow regulations.. some are probably lax. I think it would pay to find out if they actually are allowed cellphones on their person on -that- rig before jumping to conclusions. It seems obvious some allow it, some don't. Many don't for reasons of hazard, others to protect proprietary info about their rigs.

Even if they did, I imagine most wouldn't bother. Other than pictures, what good would it be? And how often do you honestly take camera to work on an oil rig to take photos during your workday? I'd guess the risk of a damaged phone would outweigh the occasional need for a selfie.

Consider this - there was a sighting over a major Chinese city.. during rush hour no less (I believe it was a meteor or rocket on reentry.. don't recall which), and although there were hundreds of calls about it.. there was I believe around 3 or 4 photos.. that's it. In a city with a population of well over 9 million. Also consider that while perhaps YOU.. the person with interest in this sort of thing, would even through the shock, think to whip out your camera and take a picture. That may be the last thing on the mind of someone else watching it.

I would imagine a company with 500m to several billion dollars invested in an drill ship, rig or platform wouldn't be concerned about it being lost due to consumer grade electronics.

a reply to: tigertatzen

their technology would be advanced enough to travel through space to get here in the first place...lots of potential life threatening hazards exist out there. And unless these hypothetical pilots are the only life form in the universe other than us, they have to have some type of weaponry on board in case they're attacked in space, right? I just don't see them running scared...not from us, anyway.

Well, that is fair enough and I don't disagree at all. I am sure there would be different types of "visitors"

There is the idea that there was an antideluvian civilisation long ago with whiz-bang technology, Atlantis for instance. The Hindu have legends of a high tech past. Gods wielding atomic fire etc.. I wonder how many "visitors" are survivors of the big antideluvian war/cataclysm.

I have a hunch that living sentient bio-weapons played a big part in that war so long ago, picture, if you will, Vishnu wielding atomic fire from vimana while the Asura fought as bio-weapons capable of eating the gods themselves to extinction. Maybe some of the weapons survived and have been living here peaceably. Maybe the "visitors" are holding grudges.

Perhaps . . .

Such weapons might be a problem for the "visitors", a non-technocal limitation one might suggest, especially if said weapons liked some of humanity, or were gearing up for a fight with the "visitors" who gave atomic theory to humanity in order to fight a proxy war and wipe out an old foe. The "visitors" would have to watch out for two threats; human military and Asura military.

But that is speculation on my part.

I guess my leaning towards the limitation idea is because once one got over the wiz-bang technology one might just find the "visitors" share a few common traits with humans, emotions like fear, worry, insecurity, able to suffer, feel pain, and so on.

It is just me talking here, but one big vulnerability a "visitor" craft may have is this: If they depend on organic living technology using humanish operating systems or simply embedded human beings (think greys), they would be vulnerable to psychic type attacks perhaps or at least discovery of vulnerabilities (radionics, radiesthesia, etc.). Maybe that is why they don't like photos: simple psychic discovery of vulnerabilities and other information.

One could play havock with organic human based hardware, computers, psychic communications, control systems, etc., if one had the knack and inclination. Theoretically speaking of course. Russia is said to have a psychic warfare department.


But my guess is as good as anyone's, and there are perhaps benevolent "visitors" but altruism is not high on my list of "visitor" virtues.

My apologies if I take a negative view of the subject and often my wording can be not as gentle as it should be.

originally posted by: frenchfries
a reply to: Phage

Well that's better but still not good enough because it's More or less the same flying implies aerial.

And an phenomenon is :
a fact, occurrence, or circumstance observed or observable:

Also if I can't identify a plane it's a UAP.....??? Do UAP's exists yes ! but what does that mean ?

I would say a 'Event created by non-human intelligent beings.' ... ECBNHIB that includes uso's and is more specific don't you think ?

UFO simply means "unidentified flying object" it has nothing to do with aliens, if it did, it would be identified.
So it could be anything, including aliens - but many people think that when you mention UFO´s it has something to do with aliens, which it hasnt. So we dont need a new term for this, we just need to understand what it means, and it doesnt means aliens

So, what Phage was trying to tell you, is that if you identify something as aliens, you can call it ECBNHIB or whatever you like, just not a UFO

originally posted by: frenchfries
a reply to: Phage

Denial of the existence of unidentified flying objects would be, to be blunt, stupid.

Well that exactly is the official point of view is right now. Ask the military , ask an politician , ask an scientist (in general).

It's my opinion that the whole thing comes down to that in some way or another they (acting officials) don't want to admit that humans arent the top of the food chain. So in my opinion they have to play stupid to protect their own superiority. At the highest levels ufo's are a non topic because well it's already known what it...

I second that opinion frenchfries.
Well said.

My post is a bit off topic but yet on-topic because I just wanted to say how amazingly awesome it is to see a UFO thread (for a change) at the "Top" list when logging into ATS.

Regarding the sighting here is what I say. I do not like it when people say eyewitness testimony is the worst type of "evidence". Even the scientific method starts with observation which is eyewitness testimony. Therefore I could use this same argument against a scientist attempting to validate his observation through experimentation. Even if his experiment fails to validate his observation does that mean his observation never occurred? I think a scientist would find this insulting yet they and many other so readily dismiss the eyewitness testimony of people with respects to UFOs all the time.

Rendlesham forest sighting, where nuclear silo was shutdown that had triple redundancy power.

In 2011 there was a sighting over Fukushima.

Now we have a gulf sighting from a supplies vessel spotted a 1200ft long ufo rising out of the water next to a oil rig. What happened there? Deep Horizon oil spill incident.

It seems they are preventing and cleaning up after our messes. We're like little kids playing with matches.

a reply to: Outlier13

amazingly awesome it is to see a UFO thread (for a change) at the "Top" list when logging into ATS.

Owner threads get special treatment.
I've been told.

a reply to: IAMNOTYOU

but many people think that when you mention UFO´s it has something to do with aliens, which it hasnt.

ok... i see thank you for clarifying that. so Ufo's do exists. and they have nothing to do with aliens. So why is this called the ufo slash alien forum ? Doesn't that imply that ufo's and aliens are connected ?

Let's assume I want to make a hypothetical thread about crafts from another civilization in which forum should I post ?

originally posted by: Thorsen
My first thought is, why would the craft need to slowly rise out of the sea, to then speed off to wherever it was going? Why not speed off right out of the water?

Any decent explanation would still be speculative.

originally posted by: Annunak1
Would be a cool sighting. Wish there were pics. Not that i don't believe them. If any of you ATS'ers get in touch with that ship can you please ask them to take me with them. I've been trying to get of Hotel Earth but they won't let me leave untill i pay the bill

Learn how to meditate if you don't know how to already. Meditate on it for months. You will most definitely leave Hotel Earth via their escort.

Is it real? Is it in your mind? You won't be able to answer these questions for sure. But one thing you will be sure of is that you will know how it feels to be utterly and truly astounded, humbled and in awe. Try it. Most people won't, and most people never leave Hotel Earth.

originally posted by: LiberateEarth
a reply to: face23785

Thanks for your post.

I'll work on getting some answers.

originally posted by: face23785
Let's start with the spooky "undisclosed location" tag, and in the very first shot of him walking into the building there's a sticker on the door that allows you to find out where they are in about 4 seconds on Google.

Here is a screenshot:



Please elaborate on the sticker in question and how you used Google.

originally posted by: MysterX

originally posted by: Soloprotocol
If there where 40 something witnesses then surely someone must have pulled out their phone and filmed it. If it was a car crash and someone was splattered all over the road at least 30 would have had it on video and it would be on liveleak by now.

Oil rig workers and sailors are not known for spending large amounts of their working time taking selfies and generally following a photography hobby at work mate...

Speaking from experience?

originally posted by: LiberateEarth
It is interesting to me that the oil rig captain who is the founder of gcaptain.com is a co-author of the 2011 book about the Deepwater Horizon explosion of 2010 Fire on the Horizon: The Untold Story of the Gulf Oil Disaster.

The person's name is John Konrad, and I see today that he has a YouTube channel:

Joined Jun 25, 2007
Description

gCaptain.com is world's leading source for maritime and offshore news.

www.youtube.com...

I would be very interested in what he has to say about the incident reported in the OP, but it looks like so far no relevant video has been posted.

Maybe that will change.

a reply to: Phage

Nope. That was all the members promoting it via flags.

a reply to: Springer

Shouldn't the title of this thread read "UFO reported by workers on an Offshore Supply Vessel . . . " rather than "Off Shore Rigs"?

originally posted by: Thorsen
My first thought is, why would the craft need to slowly rise out of the sea, to then speed off to wherever it was going? Why not speed off right out of the water?

I hope you don't expect an accurate answer from us humans.

originally posted by: frenchfries
a reply to: IAMNOTYOU

but many people think that when you mention UFO´s it has something to do with aliens, which it hasnt.

ok... i see thank you for clarifying that. so Ufo's do exists. and they have nothing to do with aliens. So why is this called the ufo slash alien forum ? Doesn't that imply that ufo's and aliens are connected ?

Let's assume I want to make a hypothetical thread about crafts from another civilization in which forum should I post ?

Why it is called UFO/Aliens?? maybe because they are two different things? When we hear a story like this, we can assume the UFO might be an alien craft, but we dont know for sure, so it is still a UFO
But UFO doesnt automatic means aliens, it can be all sort of things, that is why there is a slash alien after the ufo part, cause that is what we like to discuss on this forum.

Iam only saying, that we doesnt need to change the UFO name to something else, but sure, you can make a name for a UFO which is considered to be an alien spacecraft if you like, but if you replace UFO with the new name, we would have to come up with a new name for all other UFO´s we dont consider to have anything to do with aliens, right?

If you think you saw a UFO which might be a secret aircraft project, you might put in the "aircraft project" forum
if you think you saw a UFO which might be an alien spaceship, you would put it in this forum, because of the slash alien thing...

And yes, of course UFO´s exist! If you cant identify it, if its flying and if it is an object, it is a UFO

I saw something in the sky the other day, i think MIGHT have been a satelite, but i cant be sure - does that mean that it didnt exist or that i should assume it was aliens then??