The debate over Pluto will never die

Pluto has 5 moons.

Earth has only 1.

lol.

originally posted by: Willtell
Actually, it’s a indictment of science and their claim to know it all.

Many things we think are established as scientific fact are not scientifically proven. The Big bang theory is just that a theory. The Darwin theory of evolution is just that a theory.

Now all of a sudden there's something called dark matter and dark energy that makes up almost 80 percent of the universe...Oh really?
Oh…so you guys don’t know it all. Can't even determine what is a planet and what is not.
All you have is a method

I’m no Astronomer, only an interested laymen, but if you asked me there are including Pluto five more planets that they now call Dwarf Planets:

They are PLUTO, CERES, ERIS, MAKEMAKE, and a real strange planet that looks more like an egg, it’s an ellipse called HAUMEA.

That’s make 13 planets in our solar system

Maybe their superstitious

Velocity curves of spinning galaxies

But it was not until the 1970’s that an American astronomer, Vera Rubin, measured the speed of stars in rotating galaxies accurately enough to convince the scientific community. She observed that stars in spinning galaxies were all rotating at roughly the same velocity, no matter their distance to the galactic center. This is in contradiction with Kepler’s law that describes the rotation of planets around the Sun.

A planet located further from the Sun rotates slower, following the curve labelled A in the graph below. However, Vera Rubin showed instead that stars in a spinning galaxy followed curve B. This was as if the stars were not rotating around the visible center of the galaxy but around many unknown centers, all providing additional gravitational attraction.This could only happen if huge amounts of invisible matter filled the entire galaxy and beyond.

www.quantumdiaries.org...

Gravity is a theory and a good reason being there may be something concerning gravity, outside of our experiences that could alter the theory.

A point would be that despite the fact that gravity theory is a theory one still can not get off the planet without enough thrust to escape what we call gravity.

Personally I have no problem with 110 planets in our solar system.

The following post from Willtell deserves a D- for effort...

originally posted by: Willtell
Actually, it’s a indictment of science and their claim to know it all.

Actually, it’s a indictment of our best ability to gain knowledge about the universe in which we live through a method called science and their claim to know it all.

That sentence makes no sense.

Many things we think are established as scientific fact are not scientifically proven.

Science cannot, and does not, provide proof. The only field which offers proof is mathematics.

The Big bang theory is just that a theory. The Darwin theory of evolution is just that a theory.

No they are not - they are both Theories - note the capital T. A Theory is the best explanation we have, based on known data, to explain the world around us. As data changes Theories get updated accordingly.

Now all of a sudden there's something called dark matter and dark energy that makes up almost 80 percent of the universe...Oh really?

Suddenly? The idea of dark matter was first introduced in 1906 by Henri Poincaré... 111 years ago. Maybe it's just new to you? Dark energy was first described in 1980 (37 years ago) by Alan Guth and Alexei Starobinsky.

Oh…so you guys don’t know it all. Can't even determine what is a planet and what is not. All you have is a method

A person is not a horse. We have different classifications for all living things. Sometimes these classifications are inadequate - so they are updated based on new data.

I’m no Astronomer, only an interested laymen, but if you asked me there are including Pluto five more planets that they now call Dwarf Planets:

They are PLUTO, CERES, ERIS, MAKEMAKE, and a real strange planet that looks more like an egg, it’s an ellipse called HAUMEA.

That’s make 13 planets in our solar system

Maybe their superstitious

There are likely 100 or more other planet like objects in the depths of our solar system. They need categorising appropriately, hence the need to update the CATEGORIES!

a reply to: MarsIsRed
Wow man, you're really into classifications, man. Little boxes, man. Uncool.

Why not just call all of them space thingies?

Pluto can't die, he is a cartoon character.

Whatever we may call them or classify them as the planets and planetoids have been around a longer then when we had words for them.

Do celestial bodies care about what type of words a bunch of domesticated primates use to classify them?

a reply to: SolAquarius

Do celestial bodies care what type of words a bunch of domesticated primates use to classify them?

They do.
And they all want to be stars. But not every celestial body can be a star. We know it. They know it.

originally posted by: glend
The word planet should be stricken from the dictionary. Instead, ninth rock from the sun.

There are a lot of rocks between Mars and Jupiter...

a reply to: Phage

Oh help us all if we live in a universe where even the planets suffer from identity crises and are plagued by bitter jealousy for they can not shine


as bright as the stars

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: glend
The word planet should be stricken from the dictionary. Instead, ninth rock from the sun.

There are a lot of rocks between Mars and Jupiter...

So... nth rock from the Sun?

originally posted by: Phage

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: glend
The word planet should be stricken from the dictionary. Instead, ninth rock from the sun.

There are a lot of rocks between Mars and Jupiter...

So... nth rock from the Sun?

Nah. I'm over the whole planet demotion thing. Dwarf planet works for me. Like someone else said, it makes Pluto special.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: MarsIsRed
Wow man, you're really into classifications, man. Little boxes, man. Uncool.

Lol - not really!

Earth is a terrestrial planet. Jupiter is a gas giant plant. Neptune an ice giant... Pluto is just a little dwarf planet! But all planets just the same! My response was to the OP! But I think you're just being picky!

Besides, I hate the scientifically unwashed..!

a reply to: MarsIsRed

We eh?

Are you the official representative of the science clergy?

Go back and tell them to get there act together before its too late

a reply to: Willtell

I don't understand?

Getting their act together implies they know everything... it's all one big (fascinating) learning curve!

a reply to: MarsIsRed


I'm aware of that...

I’m afraid it’s too late; science is in the hands of something that has not the interest of the human race at the top of its agenda. It’s a servant of something out of control…

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: MarsIsRed


I'm aware of that...

I’m afraid it’s too late; science is in the hands of something that has not the interest of the human race at the top of its agenda. It’s a servant of something out of control…

Really? It's a servant alright... one that serves us all.

Look at the medical advances that have been made over the last century, the physic we've learnt, the astronomy. the construction techniques, the metallurgy... in fact everything in the modern world...

a reply to: MarsIsRed

The innertuves and this thing my fingers are moving across.

Magic. Pure and simple.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: MarsIsRed

The innertuves and this thing my fingers are moving across.

Magic. Pure and simple.

What have inner tubes got to do with it

originally posted by: MarsIsRed

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: MarsIsRed


I'm aware of that...

I’m afraid it’s too late; science is in the hands of something that has not the interest of the human race at the top of its agenda. It’s a servant of something out of control…

Really? It's a servant alright... one that serves us all.

Look at the medical advances that have been made over the last century, the physic we've learnt, the astronomy. the construction techniques, the metallurgy... in fact everything in the modern world...

Wonderful…

It’s a wonderful world of science


I love my air conditioner in July


Seriously, of course science has brought great material benefits to humanity. Or a small part of humanity since, believe it or not most of the world still lives with lambs and sheep running around their dirt floors. That’s if their lucky.

Science also hath wrought pollution, insanity, craven materialism, Nuclear weapons, Chemical weapons, pollution, and mass destruction.


PERSPECTIVE

a reply to: Willtell

Science also hath wrought pollution, insanity, craven materialism, Nuclear weapons, Chemical weapons, pollution, and mass destruction.

And before science? Everything was groovy?
Of course not. Demons. Demons were what made people sick. Demons were the problem. Or was it bad air?