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originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: kaylaluv
If it really is about the 14-year-old girl.. if it TRULY is only about the girl, I have a 15-year-old daughter, so I get it. But you see, men of all races or nationalities or citizenship status could rape her. Men are the real issue here - the elephant in the room. The only way I can know for sure that my skinny, weak, defenseless, little 15-year-old girl is safe from a man raping her is to lock up or at least heavily monitor ALL men, regardless of their color, race, nationality or citizenship status. It really is the only way to be sure.
Simple question: Is my daughter's safety and security more important than all men's freedom? Yes or No?
Wow....just wow. I have no idea what did or didn't happen to you in your life, but I really hope you are seeing someone and working on the issues for the sake of your daughter. I can't begin to describe how sorry I feel for her having to live your fears...it is detrimental to her well being...i would never teach my daughter's to fear in such a manner.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: kaylaluv
If it really is about the 14-year-old girl.. if it TRULY is only about the girl, I have a 15-year-old daughter, so I get it. But you see, men of all races or nationalities or citizenship status could rape her. Men are the real issue here - the elephant in the room. The only way I can know for sure that my skinny, weak, defenseless, little 15-year-old girl is safe from a man raping her is to lock up or at least heavily monitor ALL men, regardless of their color, race, nationality or citizenship status. It really is the only way to be sure.
Simple question: Is my daughter's safety and security more important than all men's freedom? Yes or No?
Wow....just wow. I have no idea what did or didn't happen to you in your life, but I really hope you are seeing someone and working on the issues for the sake of your daughter. I can't begin to describe how sorry I feel for her having to live your fears...it is detrimental to her well being...i would never teach my daughter's to fear in such a manner.
You don't need to be afraid of all illegal immigrants, any more than I need to be afraid of all men. Get it?
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Vasa Croe
So if she was raped by two people here legally, that's somehow "better"?
If all men were locked up, then no man would have raped her. That's a fact you cannot deny. But we don't lock all men up. That's because you are not automatically considered a rapist until you prove otherwise. Unless, according to you, someone is undocumented. Then, apparently, they are automatically a rapist even if they have never raped in their life.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Vasa Croe
So where we have ended up is:
You don't think a 14-year-old's safety and security is worth your freedom, so she's not THAT important.
You also don't seem to care very much about a 14-year-old girl from South America whose parents risked everything to get her away from her rapists in that corrupt country.
Just like I thought, you are using this 14-year-old to serve your political purposes.
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
As far as the rest of your post....again...it was not a male US citizen that raped her. Had it not been for the stupidity of that girls city giving sanctuary to criminals, she would not have been raped...simple, cut and dry.
originally posted by: 3daysgone
a reply to: Miracula2
You know your chart there says that in the US trafficking is illegal but still a problem. When in fact it is condoned by the federal government and sanctioned.
Yes it shows trafficking going on. Does that make it right?
originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Vasa Croe
It is truly awful that this girl was raped. What else are we supposed to make of this? Dennis Hastert raped boys as a wrestling coach, does that mean we should go off half-cocked with irrational fearmongering over the danger posed to children by Republicans?
Is anyone keeping an eye on Paul Ryan?
Is there any demographic of humans that doesn't contain violent criminals?
You're saying I don't care about rape, murder or slavery?
I think you just needed to make your point
No, its completely immoral. What I am saying that your chart is NOT ACCURATE. Trafficking children for the purposes of sex is promoted by one of the largest religious cults in America.
originally posted by: 3daysgone
a reply to: Miracula2
No, its completely immoral. What I am saying that your chart is NOT ACCURATE. Trafficking children for the purposes of sex is promoted by one of the largest religious cults in America.
I agree with you. It is a very serious problem. But rape culture is an epidemic in the middle east, even if you don't think it is.
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
As an interesting side note, this story was front page today and seems to be gaining momentum...odd
Missing Black Girls in DC
Here, Americans do just the opposite. They take their children to religious meetings to promote the violation of children's sexual rights, like Helen Mar Kimball who was threatened by Joseph Smith with divine wrath if she left him. They sings songs at their religious meetings glorifying Smith, and fathers invite homeless drifters to their homes thinking if they show enough divine charity they will be future Gods with the infinite power of procreation and ability to create their own worlds.
What? Middle eastern countries have a FAR LOWER violent crime rate than first world nations like the US. I've even watched a video on the internet of Iran hanging three young adult rapists publicly. They brought in a crane and a bus. And drove the bus out from underneath the rapists, left them dangling from the crane while the people cheered
In some countries, for example, rape of a woman or girl by her husband is expressly legal. This is the case in some African, Middle East and Asian countries, and in a few of these countries marital rape is expressly legal even where the “wife” being raped is a child “bride” and the “marriage” is in violation of the minimum age of marriage laws. In other countries, mainly in the Middle East, it is also legally possible for a perpetrator of rape or sexual assault to escape punishment if he marries the victim, while in others, ranging from Europe to the Middle East and Asia, the perpetrator can be exempt from punishment by reaching a “settlement” – financial or otherwise – with the victim or the victim’s family. In both cases, says the report, “this begins the narrative that not all rape is rape and so sews the seeds to allow the perpetrator to escape responsibility – in law or in practice – for his violence.”