I hate capitalism

a reply to: kosmicjack

Its not just Corporatism that is the problem. Capitalism is an outdated system based on greed that is destroying our planet and causes massive wealth disprrity..

a reply to: kosmicjack

I do admit to it being corporatism that I really hate...

But if a person really dislikes butterflies, doesn't it make sense that they would also hate the worm that mutates into the butterfly eventually?

I'm saying I don't believe it's a mutation you can stop. It's essentially either synonymous, or simply a matter of time until capitalism seems to degrade into corporatism and facisn

a reply to: deadlyhope

Capitalism, just an adult game of sorts....

A challenge perhaps....

Get an LLC, go thru your local paper want ads and determine a service that needs to be done. Get a business license and join us entrepreneurs. It's really fun and can be rewarding but requires constant attention and work. But even with that, you can lose your ass.

I started my first business with a burrowed 5 gal bucket a $5 squeege and a roll of paper towels washing windows in the Univ. district. Bare bones capitalism that morphed to a service business catering to Real Estate companies and managing 200 apartments w/6 part time student employees the first year.


I just sold my favorite business to my employees; And wish them well....

a reply to: purplemer

When a teen blows leaves or walks a dog for some cash or a stay-at-home Mom cleans other houses or babysits some kids - that is capitalism in its purest, unadulterated form. And there's nothing wrong with it.

When Wal-Mart uses cheap foreign labor and monopolistic economies of scale to stomp out local businesses - that's Corporatism. When the government not only allows it but helps it through excessive taxation, regulation or threat of other harm - that's Fascism.

a reply to: olaru12

Everyone says "become an entrepreneur"

As if everyone has some skill that could be offered, could fill in a part of the market that's not already filled in.

I've never really understood this.

I mean, I'm considering cleaning houses for a living.. But it's a well established job around here, vacation rentals and all..

Not as if that's a business. Just different work.

a reply to: deadlyhope

I assume you hate capitalism because you are barely making ends meet working a crap job?

Well, If I handed you a treasure map that led to pots of money would you use it?

I am going to do just that.... Cisco networking... Go spend 90 days and get your CCNA and start making 40-50K.

Yes, it is that easy. You may have to travel to another town and stay in a pay by week hotel until you have enough money saved to get an apartment but it is that easy. Spend a little more time, get your CCNP and start making 60-100k depending on city.


There you go...

a reply to: infolurker

Honestly, I'll look into it.

But most things that sound too good to be true...

It's like a few years ago, working on the oil rigs in North Dakota was super popular.

But negative temperatures and back to back 13 hour shifts for weeks is enough to make people have as much as they earned, in hospital bills...

So... I'd only guess there's a reason that this market has a demand for more workers, at that good of pay

capitalism isn`t so bad if everyone is playing on a level field but that isn`t happening, the playing field is so slanted that the little guy has the odds stacked against him.

a reply to: Tardacus

I'm curious why everyone defends capitalism this way?

Socialism/Communism is definitely "The worst thing in the world "

But if they had ethical, caring, efficient government officials..

Oh.

They don't.

So why do we make up excuses for capitalism?

a reply to: worldstarcountry

You did NOT just use an image of Jean-Luc Picard facepalming, to support an argument for capitalism, did you?

Given that The United Federation of Planets is a society which does not use a currency, but shares its resources among its members to best fulfill the needs of those under its care, is essentially a economic utopia, I find that concept hilarious!

There are a handful of instances where persons in the UFP actually refer to credits or any kind of financial consideration, and these credits are not currency in the strictest sense. The nearest you ever get to capitalism in the entire franchises history, is when the Ferengi are involved, and even they are willing to barter, rather than deal in currency explicitly.

I mean for crying out loud! What you did there, is like holding up Schindler as an advocate for gas chambers and really, REALLY busy railways.

originally posted by: deadlyhope
a reply to: ketsuko

No, trade happened.

capitalism - an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

Profit, being the key word.

But things like worthless money and 3000% pharma markups have not existed forever.

Here is the flaw in your logic. You assume that true capitalism is a political-economic system, when it really isn't. True capitalism is a free trade system that works independently from government influence. What America operates under today is a pseudo-capitalist system...one in which the government manipulates the natural balances of supply and demand. That isn't Capitalism, its cronyism, and it explains why Pharma has a 3000% mark-up.

Capitalism gives society the propfit and potential to help others out. Cronyism compartmentalizes all areas of society.

a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

I think I've stated at least a few times on this thread that "true capitalism" is about as likely as a real utopia.

A truly free market that doesn't have influence from government and their marriage to corporate lobbyists... Free of restrictive legislation - reasonable or no taxation ( I believe in consumer tax including reasonably high import tax)... Etc...

With educated consumers... Etc.

Would be amazing.

Is it going to happen, though?

It's about as likely as a socialistic utopia working.

a reply to: kosmicjack

Capitlaism is based on the premise of continuing growth. How can you have continual growth on a planet of limtited resource. The problems are evident.. Old growth forests disapearing, mass extinction and climate change. Its failed its messed up our home and we need something different.

a reply to: deadlyhope

Capitalism requires a majority of responsible and humble people. Today we have a majority of arrogant people who run away from responsibility. So capitalism isn't the problem, it the people.

originally posted by: Tardacus
capitalism isn`t so bad if everyone is playing on a level field but that isn`t happening, the playing field is so slanted that the little guy has the odds stacked against him.

If you learn how the system works, even the little guy can play by the same rules as the big dogs. You can't do it with crybaby tactics; fortune favors the bold....

I love Capitalism...

a reply to: olaru12

Fortune favours the immoral.

I could have all the money and power a man could want, if I was prepared to do very bad things to get it. I am not. That makes me a better man, not a lesser one.