I'm Sooo Angry!!!

a reply to: MiddleInsite

Obama didn't need any help from the Republicans or anyone else to make him a failure. He was born that way

originally posted by: visitedbythem
a reply to: MiddleInsite

Obama didn't need any help from the Republicans or anyone else to make him a failure. He was born that way

Catchy statement, but not true.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: ShadowLink

Some history is more important than others , this history could effect the world.

The Trump presidency has already affected the rest of the world. He has made America the laughing stock of developed countries. How can they trust a country that would elect a man that paints himself orange.

a reply to: reldra

You're talking about CNN and the rest of the MSM right?

I agree, their certainly doing their part helping to rewrite history.
Doing far more damage than Trump is, that's for sure.

a reply to: olaru12

Do you have a personal vendetta against oompah loompa's?

I'm kind of terrified of those lil guys.

a reply to: reldra

To the tune of 10 trillion dollars. Unheard of.

He made history.

Gotta pass it to see what's inside. Pass what? A cow patty?

a reply to: reldra

Well at least you can acknowledge the nonsense doesn't help us, and good on you for caring enough to actually go out and try to make a difference.

Is giving the president a chance not an option?

a reply to: olaru12

Hitler laughed. The Japanese laughed. You still laughing?

He who laughs last laughs loudest.

By the way...... is hillary still winning. Is she still leading you in laughter? Keep following

a reply to: olaru12

How can they trust a country that would elect a man that paints himself orange.

Is that that Liberal tolerance and acceptance I keep hearing about?
We get it! He's orange. So what?

Nothing is ever going to change as long as all we can do is throw low level insults at each other.
Worst part is they're so over used they aren't even funny anymore.

originally posted by: ShadowLink
a reply to: olaru12

How can they trust a country that would elect a man that paints himself orange.

Is that that Liberal tolerance and acceptance I keep hearing about?
We get it! He's orange. So what?

Nothing is ever going to change as long as all we can do is throw low level insults at each other.
Worst part is they're so over used they aren't even funny anymore.

You should see the cartoons of Trump in Europe. They are hilarious.





btw, I'm not a liberal and I didn't vote for clinton.....That doesn't mean I don't know BS when I smell it.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

Politics matters , it's good that people get angry.

As for this President , there's much to get angry about , we are seeing history being written right before our eyes.

I think specifics were requested, your post does not fulfill the OP's request, therefore your post is useless.

I on the other hand can answer the OP, I am very concerned about some of his cabinet picks, many seem to be entrenched in the "business as usual crowd." Apart from that, his policy direction seems good so far, I am not really concerned with how he speaks, I just just wish he would swear more ;-)

Cheers - Dave

originally posted by: bobs_uruncle

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

Politics matters , it's good that people get angry.

As for this President , there's much to get angry about , we are seeing history being written right before our eyes.

I think specifics were requested, your post does not fulfill the OP's request, therefore your post is useless.

I on the other hand can answer the OP, I am very concerned about some of his cabinet picks, many seem to be entrenched in the "business as usual crowd." Apart from that, his policy direction seems good so far, I am not really concerned with how he speaks, I just just wish he would swear more ;-)

Cheers - Dave

Technically your post is useless as well.

Concerned = projection
Seems = conjecture


I'm jk btw. Sure I can understand those concerns but a point I'd like to make is;

You need powerful people when fighting powerful people. Who else would you want when taking down the establishment than the establishment themselves?

originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986

originally posted by: bobs_uruncle

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

Politics matters , it's good that people get angry.

As for this President , there's much to get angry about , we are seeing history being written right before our eyes.

I think specifics were requested, your post does not fulfill the OP's request, therefore your post is useless.

I on the other hand can answer the OP, I am very concerned about some of his cabinet picks, many seem to be entrenched in the "business as usual crowd." Apart from that, his policy direction seems good so far, I am not really concerned with how he speaks, I just just wish he would swear more ;-)

Cheers - Dave

You need powerful people when fighting powerful people. Who else would you want when taking down the establishment than the establishment themselves?

I agree and Trump fits the bill, as long as he stays focused on the end game of clearing the embedded corruption and bringing manufacturing back to the US first and second, hopefully Canada. Unfortunately, he seems to be distracted by the petty crap, the sooner he gets past the vegetables and onto the meat of matter, the better. So many roadblocks though, it seems like people don't want him to succeed, just so they don't have to admit they were wrong. Of course the CIA, FBI and MSM steering and the funding of these radical groups and initiatives by Soros and crew don't help. I think if people would just let him do his job with the normal checks and balances applied to every president, he'd do just fine.

But, as I said previously, I am concerned with some of his cabinet picks, many seem too establishesque. I don't care if they have been in the industry for 40 years, if they come from Goldman Sachs, I'd just as soon see them fired from a cannon into shark infected waters. It would have have been nice to get some boots-on-the-ground people in there, some real people. He should actually have a committee of volunteers, that are just regular people, to bounce ideas off and brainstorm. It's those boots-on-the-ground people that want him in there and I want to see him suceed.

Cheers - Dave

a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

You're so angry you made this thread?

Good Luck Mate!

a reply to: Archonic

Did you read the OP?

a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

I'm a lover not a fighter.

a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

When one is the leader of a country, no lie is insignificant. When one is the leader of a country, the way one speaks and the things one says have importance of a magnitude far greater than some people seem to believe these days. Those people are wrong of course. His cabinet picks should worry people, because their hidden ideologies (which do not require bunny ears, thank you very much) are disgusting, anti-human, and toxic to the societies over which they now have some measure of power.

But let me entertain your shallow attempt to deflect reasonable concern away from a very concerning person.

The Presidents language has affected me as a British citizen in the following way:

I now assume that Mr Trump will accidentally cause a diplomatic incident, potentially serious enough to begin a world war. I believe this is a greater possibility than ever before, because the man does not think, leave alone think before he speaks, which makes him a liability to the entire species, given his position of leadership in the age of nuclear armament. This means that I am going to have to redouble my efforts to be prepared in the event of having to either get out of dodge, or harden my current position to survivable standards.

The Presidents lack of character has affected me in the following way:

I used to trust the American people on the whole, to do things that while not necessarily good for humanity, would not necessarily be so bad for it that it might cease to exist. Electing a person of Trumps evident lack of good character, a moral degenerate, leads me to believe that a goodly portion of the United States cannot be trusted with the contents of a packet of cocktail sticks, leave alone a say in who leads them. There is literally no good reason anyone ought to have voted for either candidate, but the fact that there are those who are over the moon happy with his election as President, makes me very concerned about the quality of the people of the United States, their level of education. The trust I used to place in persons from the United States generally, has evaporated. I still have that trust for those that I know personally, but as for everyone else there? I am now a great deal more wary of their motivations than I was.

The Presidents lies have affected me in the following ways:

First of all, this ties into the entire "This could end the world" problem. A man who does not embrace truth should not be permitted to lead a nation. The reason for this is that he could be pouring a bottle of wine over another head of state, and at the very same time as the liquid cascades over the brow and down the shirtfront of the target of this barb, be telling a journalist about how the events currently unfolding, never happened, even though they are on film. That makes for a very dangerous situation, one far less stable and balanced than what had been going on before, one might say, EVER before.

The Presidents policies affect me in the following ways:

Not one bit. But they do affect people I care about, who are living in the United States, or have been until recently. They also may affect the way my nations Prime Minister decides to go about her job in future, and that unutterable cow needed no help to be a jackbooted Thatcherite piece of garbage, thank you very much. If you are on the right, then you are in the wrong, and her breed need kicking out of Parliament all together, not emboldening from across the sea.

The Presidents cabinet picks...

Again, this comes down to trust. I can no longer trust Americans on the whole, to make choices that are not going to be dangerous for the human race. I used to. I still trust the ones I know, but everyone else? No. Would you trust someone who drinks acid and smokes anthrax? His cabinet picks ARE a bunch of racist, misogynist, backward regressives, with not a singular moral fiber between them. I can no longer trust some of my fellow human beings, because they have shown that they cannot be trusted to make good choices, that they cannot be trusted to keep the enemy (fascist, racist, dark ages filth like Bannon, for example) out of power for the rest of time. That is a serious problem.

And as for your appeal to leave emotion out of the equation....

Are you a human being or a robot? If I put a knife in your side, will you bleed and scream, or will you merely leak and buzz? Thats what I thought. Get over yourself.

Emotion is not a weakness, it is not wrong, it is not bad. Being lead by the better nature one possesses is not wrong either. Perhaps if your people had not elected a monster with no soul, you would be better placed to admit that, rather than being terrified by the truth to the point where you would deliberately attempt to stop people from engaging with it as a concept.

a reply to: TrueBrit

Wow.

Did you miss the "without projection and conjecture" part?

While I appreciate the in depth and thought provoking response, you sure said quite a bit, while not saying much at the same time.

First of all, I apologise if I offend/offended you, but I think you clearly missed the point of my OP. But let me entertain your overly emotional attempt at trying to be righteous and pragmatic, but end up borderline between insecure and quite frankly, kind of ignorant.

How has his language effected you;

You started off with "I now assume", do you see the problem already? You then went on and attributed his language to world war, a liability to the human race and went as far as saying you will need to double your efforts of survival. Fear mongering much?

If you actually ignore the tabloids and the false narrative the news spews, you would actually recognize his entire message is UNITY
But some how his language will be the end of our existence?

How his character effected you;

You said because America has elected Trump, they must lack character and cant be trusted with a cocktail. Who's shallow now? No good reason to elect him? How about his clear stance against the corruption? Putting his life in clear danger? But of course you will deflect this with more fear projection and conjecture.

How insecure do you have to be to now be a "great deal more wary" of our actions because we voted Trump? Grow some balls. All his supporters are not just a bunch of zombie idiots like you wish to believe.

How has his lies effected you;

Ties in with "end the world" ? Fear m_________. You say he is not permitted to truth, but how come all I see is him being truthful when it matters? He is the most transparent president in history, what more truth do you want? Politicians have been lying since their inception and they may not lie about the insignificant things like Trump, but they will lie about the significant things that matter, unlike Trump.

How his policies;

Oh it's good to know it hasn't affected you one bit, but your also concerned it may affect your government in the future. More fear projection. Then you say "if you are on the right, you are on the wrong"

No comment.

His cabinets;

Ahh, even more fear projections. More insecure blabbering about how you dont trust America. Then you go on to make a poor analogy about acid and anthrax? How does that even make sense? Then you continue to label them with the typical buzzwords, only accentuating your fear projection and lack of insight. You claim they have no moral fiber in their body, right because you know them personally.

Do I need to remind you that nothing has happened yet? You guys have been critical of his picks from the beginning, but what has happened? Please enlighten me..

More fear projection..

As for the rest of your post;

More poor analogies. Who's holding a knife to your throat? What I see is people terrified of the Boogeyman. Did I ever say I'm devoid of any emotion? There is a time and place for it, and when using your judgement, emotion will only cloud it. It's called being rational

Never once did I say emotion is a weakness, read above.

Emotion will only cloud your rationale, because emotions play on your fears, insecurities, which in return make you project. Do you not comprehend this?

You conclude with Trump is a monster having no soul. How come I see the opposite? I'll tell you why.. because I don't think with my emotions and im not influenced by popular opinions, I can think for myself and see the BS for what it is.

I think it's pretty obvious who is "terrified" of the truth..


ETA: btw thanks for proving my point..

omg....do you folks on the right need a major hug or safe space?

yeesh

All the bluster about how the strong can handle all of the complaints and hate...yet we get to here these threads and FB posts everywhere.

wowzer...

ok so you asked a question...here it comes...and you bet I am gonna be a "what about you" because frankly this post deserves it

So let's get to the point

He wants to have control over what the EPA and USDA researches and looks to scale back. If these scale backs occur...oops...there goes my wife's job and grant money. Oh well...I'm just whining.

He wants to allow states to choose whether to fund private or public schools. My aunt who lives in a red state can lose funding or her job if her state decides to funnel that money to a school which is paid for by private funding. Oh well...I'm just manufacturing anger.

But this all drives me nuts because plenty of people on the right sat and whined for 8 years and I could ask the same question. How did Obama's policies directly affect them?

Or even better! Why are they still whining about Hillary? Why the manufactured outrage? She lost...she is gone...no more...nothing she can do to you now so you can go sleepy now....Hillary is not under your bed

but no...it's only the left :-)

a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

Rational?

Do you think it is rational to believe that a man who lies over seventy percent of the time, and spins the rare truth that he utters, is honest, that a government run by such a man is capable of anything even approaching transparency?

You and I have a different understanding of the concepts of truth, honesty and transparency, clearly.

Furthermore, projection is not something to be frowned upon. I actually AM capable of rational thought, which provides me the ability to not merely observe the origins of a set of effects, but identify them as such, before they come to fruition. This is the same sort of entirely rational and indeed LAUDABLE intellectual activity, which led members of this website and many other thinkers around the world, to conclude that western governments must have some sort of mass surveillance system in place, nearly ten years before the fact of its existence was revealed by Snowden.

I am capable of both rational, and emotional operation. My conclusions are based on reason, observation. You may not like the way I display my conclusions, the fact that I am unafraid to tell you how those conclusions, wrought from reason and logic, make me feel, but I am disinclined to pay over much attention to how people feel about what I have to say, since it has been made crystal clear of late, that the facts are incapable of making any impact on the worldview of those who support the things I stand against. In essence, there is no reason to bite my tongue, when the reality is that the people who support Trump and his collection of detestable, fascist appointees, will continue to do so no matter how many unadulterated facts they are shown. So why leave my rage unspoken? All that will achieve is gut ulcers.

No. I will continue to speak my mind, issue its contents, ALL of them, HONESTLY, without editing them save to make them acceptable fare for this site, and if Trump supporters do not like it, they are welcome to make a mockery of their position by retreating to the safe spaces that they deny they rely on, by hiding away so their special little feelings cannot be hurt by facts, or by the absolute fury that those facts inspire in those with the wit to see them for what they are.