Another Step Toward Cashless Society

Check this out!

www.paybytouch.com...

People are allowing their fingerprints to be linked to their checking accounts so that instead of paying for their groceries in the traditional manner, they can just touch the fingerprint scanner and have their account debited.
Some people are really excited about this new option.
Why won't they wake up and stop playing along?!?!

Do you work?
Do you have electronic direct deposit?
Do you have a checking account?
Do you have an ATM card?
Credit card?
Debit Card?

If you answer yes to any of the above, my real question then is why are you making such a big deal out of this?




seekerof

Originally posted by Seekerof

If you answer yes to any of the above, my real question then is why are you making such a big deal out of this?

I have to agree.

I seldom carry more than a couple bucks cash anyway

I do work, but I refuse to use direct deposit.
I'll pick up my check in my own hot little hand.

I don't use ATM cards either. I won't use a credit or debit card.
I don't have 9 of those little data mining cards hooked to my keyring either.
I will not play along and just go quietly take my place under the thumb of big brother.

Are you folks actually in favor of a cashless society?

Edit to add - If you are in favor of a cashless society, please tell me why. I would love to find anything about it that would help to keep my head from exploding when I think about it.

PS - all that stuff about it stopping drug trafficking or purse snatching won't wash with me.

[edit on 1/31/05 by wellwhatnow]

Lol, I'm just more amused by the fact that Checks are now being revamped to process like cards......they won' take days to get throught he system anymore (mostly to stop all the bounced checks, and to phase checkbooks out...

Originally posted by wellwhatnow
Are you folks actually in favor of a cashless society?

I dont really care.

I doubt they will be able to get rid of cash altogather but I hardly ever use it anymore.

Money isnt backed by gold anymore so its already a cashless society, we just wont have to carry around a pocket full of IOUs anymore

[edit on 31-1-2005 by Amuk]

You know, I wanna invent a machine that strips Gold out of seawater.....

we might as well go back to a bartering system, lol....

Oh, and they DO have those machines that read those strips in the 20 dollar bills, WHILE it's in your pocket. You get traced for carrying anything higher than a 1.

Reasons why I think a cashless society is good:
1. More room in your purse/wallet.
2. You dont have to worry as much about losing your money from it falling out.
3. More technologicly advanced.
4. Pi**es christiocatholics off. (The whole anti-christ thing.)
5. Easier way to pay for things.

Thats about all I can think of right now.

[edit on 1/31/2005 by iori_komei]

LOL fingerprints can be copied and lifted! It would be easier to lift a finger print then to pickpocket. Eye scans should be used instead or fingerprints with a pin number as well.

WellWhatNow i`m with you on this one,it never ceases to amaze me how people can take these things so lightly when we have been foretold and warned of it`s coming thousands of years ago,oh well those of us who will refuse the mark of the beast will be the minority sounds like.

WellWhatNow i`m with you on this one,it never ceases to amaze me how people can take these things so lightly when we have been foretold and warned of it`s coming thousands of years ago,oh well those of us who will refuse the mark of the beast will be the minority sounds like.

Sorry weird double post?

[edit on 1-2-2005 by gps777]

I can't believe that any of you who think a cashless society is anything but horrible!

It's not about whether we carry cash or not, it's about losing our (once upon a time) right to privacy!

Don't you see? Every fingerprint, every signature, every PIN, every RX, etc.. that is left or willingly given to anyone, anywhere, is being put into some database about something.

Soon, if not already, each and every person can be cross-referenced just by giving a phone number out, or buying something on a debit or credit card, or signing for something, to where everything about you, from where you shop to if you have been arrested, are a convicetd felon, or what you eat and everything in-between can be know instantly.

Think about it. Carrying cash isn't so bad, if you want to hold on to any bit that may be left of your right to privacy!

I agree with CyberKat. The day is here and now. Already here in Va. at some of the Kroger food store, you can pay for your goods with just a quick scan of your index finger. What I wonder about is this: by using my debit, atm, or credit cards constitute in taking the"mark of the beast?"

Well, I for one don't agree with CyberKat.

as posted by CyberKat
It's not about whether we carry cash or not, it's about losing our (once upon a time) right to privacy!

The day you were born, you lost your "privacy" when you were issued a social security card!
The day you went to work and gave your social security card number, among other pretinent personal information, you lost your "privacy"!
The day you opened a checking account at a bank, you lost your "privacy"!
The day you get married will be another day you lose your "privacy".
The list can go on.

Obviously, seems that many of you have no real clue to what "privacy" is in the real world. Apparently most think it is the ability to shut and lock your doors and close your window blinds, along with not having your phone tapped, etc. Freakin' hilarious how some people simply want to sit on the porch and casually sip from their glass of freshly squeezed 'privacy' lemonade as the world goes by.....!

The world is moving in the 21st Century and some of you are still stuck in the 19th when people were still stuffing cash into shoeboxes and burying their money in the backyard or stuffing their money in a mattress. Good grief, now all you hear is this crap about anything and everything being an invasion of "privacy"!!?

The "mark of the beast" has nothing to do with this dern disussion. Its called the reality of the coming fiscal and monetary age. Actual carried cash is and will become a thing of the past. Nothing but a fade. You will adapt or you will be assimilated!

Bet!




seekerof

[edit on 1-2-2005 by Seekerof]

First they take away the precious metals (gold, silver) as currency, then introduce their own brand of coins and paper money to the masses that, at the stroke of a pen, can be devalued and made worthless. All the time, the precious stuff more or less keeps it's high value and is hoarded.
Can't have the masses having quantities of precious metals, that's for governments, international banks and the super-rich. When our currency is devalued, they will have the stuff that matters.

All the talk of secure, cashless cocieties where we are all chipped and registered is window dressing. All that info, who has access and how will it be used? What info is stored against our names/numbers and how much access will WE have to it? Hell, we already have so many agencies and databases with all sorts of info about us, open to government and paying agencies.
The government has NO place in my private or work life. I pay my taxes and stay within the law, that should be enough. I will not allow myself to be catalogued like a piece of livestock.

Sorry, I just find all this rather disturbing and unnecessary.

as posted by Britguy
I will not allow myself to be catalogued like a piece of livestock.

No offense, Britguy, so please don't take this wrong.
You words are brave, defiant, and valiant, but *looking up at what I quoted you saying* you, as we all, are already catalogued "like a piece of livestock" and simply do not want to acknowledge such.




seekerof

No offence taken Seekerof.... that's what the boards are for, discussion

I know what you mean though. I know we are already, to a large extent, catalogued and filed. I just don't see why we should be further scrutinised.
There surely must come a time when people will wake up and think for a minute about just what we elect people into government for.
Last time I checked, they are supposed to be in office, given stewardship over the countries affairs, to the benefit of the people.
The measures successive governments introduce are slowly but surely whittling away personal freedoms and privacy. If the laws don't allow them to do something then they just change the laws.
That is dictatorship.
Not that anyone would want to call it that but when most of us get a choice of two main parties (realistically, discounting the other players/wannabes) to vote for, made up of career politicians with ties to business and influenced by corporate interests, then we no longer have a government for the people.

Things haven't really changed all that much since the dark ages have they?
We still serve our feudal masters and are expected to die for their power and influence.

Benefits of a society moving closer towards a cashless existence>
1. Saves trees (hooray environment)
2. Cuts back on counterfitting
3. Cuts back on government workers