CIA Off and Running With Amazon Web Services

This is an article from June 2014.

If you're not familiar with this topic, in a nutshell, Amazon Web Services received a $600,000,000 government contract to provide Cloud services to the CIA and 17 other intelligence agencies toward the end of 2013. They were not the lowest bidder, but got the contract anyway. They were to have the Cloud up and running by summer 2014 for the CIA and other intelligence agencies.

Amazon Web Services (AWS) is, of course, an Amazon company, owned by Jeff Bezos, who also owns The Washington Post.

I am no technology geek, but this particular partnership is a bit concerning to me on several levels. I have mentioned them elsewhere, so wont bother to lay them out in detail on this thread. But, suffice it to say, in light of the current political climate, intelligence leaks to WaPo, and other relationship matters, I find this worthy of more research.

Please read this article that reviews some of the technology and tell me what you think of Jeff "WaPo" Bezos' Amazon Cloud Services and the CIA being in bed together. I would like to put my concerns to rest....or not.

CIA Off and Running With Amazon Web Services
www.cio.com...

a reply to: queenofswords

He's a lefty. It kind of fits.

a reply to: gription

What did you glean from the article?

a reply to: queenofswords

So a government department has discovered that it is cheaper for someone else to host its website/s (that's what "public cloud" means).

I guess that it is an endorsement for AWS's data security if it wasn't so mundane (There's also discussion of incomplete work regarding data security, in the article, so it's not that great an endorsement).

a reply to: queenofswords

He makes exponential amounts of money by conforming to leftism.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: queenofswords

So a government department has discovered that it is cheaper for someone else to host its website/s.

I guess that it is an endorsement for AWS's data security.

Thanks for your input. Are you a technology guy? So, there is nothing about this that could be problematic in your opinion?

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: queenofswords

So a government department has discovered that it is cheaper for someone else to host its website/s.

I guess that it is an endorsement for AWS's data security.

The real question is why the CIA and other intelligence agencies would want to use an "outside" provider when we fund the NSA which has the same capability? I can only assume that Bezo's is a CIA operative and that is also the reason he owns the WAPO. Is it ever a good idea to out source an international intelligence archive to a private corporation.... unless the corporate culture is the CIA? Don't you just love the smell of corporate/government Fascism in the morning.

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: queenofswords

So a government department has discovered that it is cheaper for someone else to host its website/s.

I guess that it is an endorsement for AWS's data security.

Thanks for your input. Are you a technology guy? So, there is nothing about this that could be problematic in your opinion?

I would consider myself a technology guy but others might not.

Regardless, despite the buzz-words in the article, this isn't really so big a deal.

Web stuff that was already public access is being moved to a new hosting company.

originally posted by: WilliamtheResolute

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: queenofswords

So a government department has discovered that it is cheaper for someone else to host its website/s.

I guess that it is an endorsement for AWS's data security.

The real question is why the CIA and other intelligence agencies would want to use an "outside" provider when we fund the NSA which has the same capability? I can only assume that Bezo's is a CIA operative and that is also the reason he owns the WAPO. Is it ever a good idea to out source an international intelligence archive to a private corporation.... unless the corporate culture is the CIA? Don't you just love the smell of corporate/government Fascism in the morning.

It would be politic for the CIA to distance itself from the NSA.

The NSA is less able to justify its income and the CIA doesn't want to get tied to the titanic when it goes down (I actually imagine that the CIA would be happy to 'absorb' some of the NSA's infrastructure).

originally posted by: WilliamtheResolute

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: queenofswords

So a government department has discovered that it is cheaper for someone else to host its website/s.

I guess that it is an endorsement for AWS's data security.

The real question is why the CIA and other intelligence agencies would want to use an "outside" provider when we fund the NSA which has the same capability? I can only assume that Bezo's is a CIA operative and that is also the reason he owns the WAPO. Is it ever a good idea to out source an international intelligence archive to a private corporation.... unless the corporate culture is the CIA? Don't you just love the smell of corporate/government Fascism in the morning.

This is the WaPo columnist that has received some of the leaks: David Ignatius en.wikipedia.org...

And remember, Jeff Bezos' WaPo hired a dedicated team of 20 reporters to come up with some kind of dirt on Trump....
20 !! I can't help but wonder how much of that Cloud info may have been touched and by whom?

No dirt found, btw.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: WilliamtheResolute

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: queenofswords

So a government department has discovered that it is cheaper for someone else to host its website/s.

I guess that it is an endorsement for AWS's data security.

The real question is why the CIA and other intelligence agencies would want to use an "outside" provider when we fund the NSA which has the same capability? I can only assume that Bezo's is a CIA operative and that is also the reason he owns the WAPO. Is it ever a good idea to out source an international intelligence archive to a private corporation.... unless the corporate culture is the CIA? Don't you just love the smell of corporate/government Fascism in the morning.

It would be politic for the CIA to distance itself from the NSA.

The NSA is less able to justify its income and the CIA doesn't want to get tied to the titanic when it goes down (I actually imagine that the CIA would be happy to 'absorb' some of the NSA's infrastructure).

Good point, I don't think the NSA will be going away anytime soon. I would like to see Trump defund a lot of the intelligence services that seem to be at war with each other. My understanding is that the CIA always assumes jurisdiction and overrides other intelligence services under the "international mandate" they feel they have over the domestic agencies....I can only speculate that all the world intelligence services "share" and collaborate.

I don't think there is any doubt that the CIA is a criminal enterprise with very evil origins based on its foundational association with Reinhardt Gehlen and his Nazi intelligence services. I am worried that Bezo's owning an influential newspaper and appearing to be a CIA operative is a move by a well funded deep state to initiate some nefarious plan. Mussolini may not have intended to tie Corporatism and Government together as a governing body but I think we are seeing the beginnings...of our end.

f you're not familiar with this topic, in a nutshell, Amazon Web Services received a $600,000,000 government contract to provide Cloud services to the CIA and 17 other intelligence agencies toward the end of 2013

Yet another reason intelligence agency is an oxymoron.

Sure why not place all your secrets on something created by an internet retailer.

What could possible go wrong ?

Hint line that Echo outage cause by a TYPO.

Ya know how many fake,counterfeit things are sold off of Amazon ?

Snip loads.

originally posted by: queenofswords
This is an article from June 2014.

If you're not familiar with this topic, in a nutshell, Amazon Web Services received a $600,000,000 government contract to provide Cloud services to the CIA and 17 other intelligence agencies toward the end of 2013. They were not the lowest bidder, but got the contract anyway. They were to have the Cloud up and running by summer 2014 for the CIA and other intelligence agencies.

Amazon Web Services (AWS) is, of course, an Amazon company, owned by Jeff Bezos, who also owns The Washington Post.

I am no technology geek, but this particular partnership is a bit concerning to me on several levels. I have mentioned them elsewhere, so wont bother to lay them out in detail on this thread. But, suffice it to say, in light of the current political climate, intelligence leaks to WaPo, and other relationship matters, I find this worthy of more research.

Please read this article that reviews some of the technology and tell me what you think of Jeff "WaPo" Bezos' Amazon Cloud Services and the CIA being in bed together. I would like to put my concerns to rest....or not.

CIA Off and Running With Amazon Web Services
www.cio.com...

I almost feel like I need to find an alternative service for most of the main platforms I use..

Facebook feels like it's become something else, and may have ulterior motives.

Now Amazon, for which I use Amazon video and shipping/shopping services, is becoming questionable.

originally posted by: gription
a reply to: queenofswords

He's a lefty. It kind of fits.

You do know that the CIA has a long standing relationship with far right wing organizations, both abroad and here in the US, right? Generally speaking, often the CIA and NSA are considered more right wing organizations in their global and domestic outlook.

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: WilliamtheResolute

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: queenofswords

So a government department has discovered that it is cheaper for someone else to host its website/s.

I guess that it is an endorsement for AWS's data security.

The real question is why the CIA and other intelligence agencies would want to use an "outside" provider when we fund the NSA which has the same capability? I can only assume that Bezo's is a CIA operative and that is also the reason he owns the WAPO. Is it ever a good idea to out source an international intelligence archive to a private corporation.... unless the corporate culture is the CIA? Don't you just love the smell of corporate/government Fascism in the morning.

This is the WaPo columnist that has received some of the leaks: David Ignatius en.wikipedia.org...

And remember, Jeff Bezos' WaPo hired a dedicated team of 20 reporters to come up with some kind of dirt on Trump....
20 !! I can't help but wonder how much of that Cloud info may have been touched and by whom?

No dirt found, btw.

Yes, I am familiar with him, the intelligence services use him to disseminate non-identified, deniable, politically-useful information.......leaks.

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14

originally posted by: gription
a reply to: queenofswords

He's a lefty. It kind of fits.

You do know that the CIA has a long standing relationship with far right wing organizations, both abroad and here in the US, right? Generally speaking, often the CIA and NSA are considered more right wing organizations in their global and domestic outlook.

I don't think the right wing analogy is accurate anymore. The defining terms that align with the CIA and NSA would be neo-con and Globalist. If you look at todays politicians you will find both Democrats and Republicans agreeing on topics related to these concerns when they have no other common ground.

a reply to: neo96

What could possible go wrong ?

I could think of a lot of things!

One being they could sell off AWS to...oh, I don't know....maybe....China?

Maybe they could just sell little pieces of data....lol!

I mentioned this in another post. I strongly doubt CIA Is comingling sensitive data in the same cloud that others would subscribe to. I know of banks who have leased the technology to on-premise but would absolutely never consider allowing their data to reside on a multi-tenant cloud host.

If anything, CIA is giving people a false sense of security by asserting they use amazon cloud without disclosing it's on-premise so people feel comfortable putting their own sensitive data in a managed infrastructure that they presumably already have AI to monitor and data mine.

the more I see things take shape as it is in our digital age, the more I agree with Elon Musk,

We must merge with A.I. or we will be left behind as irrelevant.

Our next step with merging with machines will help make most of this idiotic power grabbing that much more idiotic.

Cheap is not necessarily best. That's a core business principle.

Amazon was one of the first to expoit the new evolving cloud at scale.