I've decided to throw caution to the wind, and discuss the sensitive topics as per the title, in the hope that intelligent discourse can be
forthcoming. I've listed all my sources at the bottom of this post (sorry its a long one...this topic can't be covered in a paragraph) I'll try and
make it as interesting as possible as I'm aware of the short attention span of some I have researched the various aspects of this topic over the
last 8months or so studied many MANY reports and whilst many intelligent knowledgeable people have now (for the most part) agreed on why the
situation we are now experiencing in so many countries exists, I have yet to find anyone that can agree on a solution or indeed have a solution. Oh
and I'm not playing the "I'm more liberal than thou" game that seems so prevalent on posts like this
For many years now, we have all heard the phrase "Diversity is our Strength", it has been shoved at us repeatedly by a myriad of politicians and
others and yet not one has explained how this diversity could possibly be called "our strength" nor have they revealed why this statement has been
pushed so hard in the 20th & 21st Centuries. In point of fact, the last 20yrs or so has shown that diversity in fact is our weakness and actually
destroys social cohesion. There is nothing that supports diversity, unless you count the endless repetition of the word and unsupported assertions by
societies liberals.
One of the reasons for the failure of multiculturalism and "diversity" is the eagerness to appear tolerant and liberal minded, allowing huge
immigration whilst not tackling integration. The reluctance to accept that some cultures cannot co-exist side by side with others is evidence of a
people in denial, scared of being labelled racist intolerant xenophobic, but the current "open door" policy with regards to migrants/refugees is now
the cause of mistrust amongst the indigenous populations of those countries, with many feeling that they have to adapt their culture to that of
the migrants. This can be clearly seen in places like Germany & Sweden, where the countries population are being asked to change their lifestyle so as
not to cause offence. The naivete of some of these countries is worrying and for me, sad. Their intentions may be good, but the world is filled with
good intentions,but little common sense.
This naivete and willingness to give up nationality can be clearly illustrated in this happy song from a Swedish childrens' tv programme (please
ignore the title its the content I refer to)
The lyrics declaring how "my country is yours" are probably truer now but in a way the Swedes did not expect. Their liberal utopian dream is not
becoming reality and the reality they and other countries are facing is a problem because their ideology did not allow for failure. They thought that
by giving and giving it would all be sunshine and unicorns but as we know there are givers and takers and if you create a society that gives
preferential or special treatment to a group, once that group is given equality, it is seen as a step back and equality is then seen as inequality.
It should be remembered that multiculturalism is a theory,a social experiment set in motion around 40yrs ago by liberals attempting to fix something
that wasn't broken. Multiculturalism has failed due to countries permitting and indeed encouraging, migrants & refugees not to integrate but to keep
their culture intact and to co-exist alongside other cultures which inevitably results in clashes of belief and ideologies, with the exception of
France who has a policy of total assimilation as opposed to just integration.
Another reason for the failure of diversity and multiculturalism is due to the way people relate to others and create relationships. Humans will
naturally find it easier to have a relationship with those that are closest to themselves in beliefs, ideologies and even looks. Those that are
furthest removed from the host countries beliefs etc are viewed with suspicion. Integration however, cures only part of the problem and in fact
creates another, the lack of social cohesion or the way people interact with each other. You can have neighbourhoods that are intergrated but they
will almost always lack social cohesion. Psychologist Zachary Neal created millions of computer simulations with fictional neighbourhoods which all
showed the same thing, that the more integrated a neighbourhood was the less cohesive it was and policies cannot change this fundamental human
trait.
Harvard Political Scientist & Liberal Robert Puttnam conducted a study to attempt to prove diversity and multiculturalism works but was surprised by
the results to the extent that he delayed publishing his findings whilst he continued with further testing. What he found was the the more diverse an
area the less people did volunteer work, the less they gave to charity, they less the contributed to the community, fewer people voted and more
importantly the more diverse an area the larger the distrust of their neighbours. Why is this? Because when a group or community don't accept the
host countries' core values such as the UK where there are Pakistani Ghettos where the people inside those "ghettos" identify as Pakistani NOT
English, where the community does not associate their identity as that of the host nation where they specifically set themselves apart from the host
country, it breeds suspicion and mistrust and fosters the idea that "they're not one of us". It has little to do with skin colour and far more to
do with differences.
We are told that unemployment and poverty create these ghettos and that the people need more help. The liberal stance is to throw more welfare
benefits at these "communities" more education, more of everything. What the liberal handwringer fails to acknowledge is that they themselves are
creating the very situation they are allegedly trying to prevent. Throwing welfare cheque after welfare cheque at a group creates dependency, self
indulgence, lack of responsibility, disregard of consequences, a sense of entitlement and of course victimhood, thus alienating them further from the
mainstream native population of producers. The quote "give a man a fish you'll feed him for a day, show a man how to fish you'll feed him for
life" has now become in some circles "Give a man a fish he'll ask for fries and a coke". There are doers and there are takers and the more you
take from those that produce and give to those that do nothing, the more mistrust and anger will occur in the doer population. This is misinterpreted
to mean racism, when in fact its a situation created by those left over advocates of socialism from the 60's and 70's and their utopian dream. In
order to give freely to one, you have to take from another and therein lies the problem.
From Thomas Sowell Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institute, Political Philosopher and all round clever bloke
There is no talent so ardently supported, nor generously rewarded, as the ability to convince parasites they are victims.
Welfare states on both sides of the Atlantic have discovered that largesse to losers does not reduce their hostility to society, but only increases
it. Far from producing gratitude, generosity is seen as an admission of guilt, and the reparations as inadequate compensations for injustices -
leading to worsening behavior by the recipients
Yes its a lot to read and I do hope that most will actually read it and I hope that I've presented it in a way that is easily understood (although no
doubt I've left bits out I'll remember later!) and apologies for no pretty pictures lol
Brave. You are going to get flamed for this because its true, but it's not a comfortable one. Therefore you and the facts you have included will be
mercilessly attacked by our **LIBERAL** sorority.
Expect also to be personally insulted and called a snowflake/sexist/racist/xenophobe/Islamaphobe etc because when faced with undeniable truth that
doesn't fit the modern liberal narrative that is the go to tactic.
Good for you.
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I have my broad shoulders on today lol.....I hope to look forward to some great debate and discussion rather than insults and whinging
That is undoubtedly what your post deserves and in any sane society that is what would happen. But sanity and modern liberalism are mutually
exclusive. Cultural Marxism is just another term for a sick society that is heading for self-destruction. As a member of a global minority I am one
the people whose existence is under the greatest threat from Multiculturalism.
I fail to understand how people can articulate the idea that multiculturalism is failing or can fail. The entire existence of the United States has
been a 241 year long exercise in multiculturalism.
It is not just different cultures that this is true for. Even white Americans who are on the government take feel entitled to what they receive. If
you suggest they get a job or maybe do some community service work they will find all kinds of excuses why they can't but yet half(just a guess) of
them will sell their excess food stamps to buy drugs and alcohol. I know many that make public assistance a way of life. They will travel around to
many different food banks to get more more more. What is worse is that they openly brag about it. I needed assistance once in my life and went to
job training. I was the only one there that applied myself. Most were just there to satisfy their requirements so they could keep getting free
handouts.
That "Multiculturalism" you are referring to took place when there was no welfare state and those that came to the fledgling US had the will and
intention to become productive members of the society. Their expectations were completely different to the Culturally Marxist entitlement complex of
today's US.
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I fail to understand how people can articulate the idea that multiculturalism is failing or can fail. The entire existence of the United States has
been a 241 year long exercise in multiculturalism.
For 200 of those years it actually worked. People from around the globe desired to BECOME AMERICAN. Now they just want to live in
America and keep all of their own beliefs. That is not to say that in the past people gave up their culture, but they joined ours thereby making both
greater.
ETA: Along with all of that they expect us to become like them in our own country.
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I fail to understand how people can articulate the idea that multiculturalism is failing or can fail. The entire existence of the United States has
been a 241 year long exercise in multiculturalism.
Bull. The first couple hundred years were an exercise in adaption and conforming to western European culturalism. We did not appease migrants
and foreign cultures in the US, we assimilated them. The current ideology of multiculturalism, one in which American society bends and warps to
accommodate the foreign and make them feel "at home" is a recipe for failure. Either America's unique culture dies in that equation, or we end up
with significant pockets of resistance and disharmony. 100+ years ago the cultural and technological gaps between the US and the world's poorer
nations was nowhere near what it is today. The countries sending the most people into the US are from cultures incompatible with modern western
society's values and standards.
I believe that is as a result of our acceptance of white guilt. Without our acceptance of it, there would be no white guilt. This is another liberal
idea pushed upon the "victims" to give reason to their misery, any reason will do except the facts. Germany in particular have and excess of guilt
over the 2nd WW and some politicians have openly stated that they have a duty to accept the migrants as a direct result thereof
I fail to understand how people can articulate the idea that multiculturalism is failing or can fail. The entire existence of the United States has
been a 241 year long exercise in multiculturalism.
For 200 of those years it actually worked. People from around the globe desired to BECOME AMERICAN. Now they just want to live in
America and keep all of their own beliefs. That is not to say that in the past people gave up their culture, but they joined ours thereby making both
greater.
ETA: Along with all of that they expect us to become like them in our own country.
Saying that today's cultures aren't doing that too is just ignorance. For one, most cultural blending happens generationly. Kids adopt to newer
cultures much easier than adults since they grow up in them. It usually takes about three generations for an immigrant population to blend into its
new culture.
The keyword is assimilation. Immigrants in the past were Americans first, immigrants second. They were expected to assimilate to American culture,
language, and ideals.
Agreed. However, integration and assimilation are different and not one country that I have researched adopts the assimilation approach except France,
and if we look at the results of both integration and assimilation neither works long term, UNLESS the migrants are of a similar recognisable culture
& belief system to that of the host nation
Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
And anti-immigrant sentiment like yours isn't new. Ever see Gangs of New York? That is about anti-immigrant gangs fighting immigrant gangs in turn of
the century NYC.
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