Just curious. Are you Trump supporters happy with the following?

a reply to: Bone75

In a situation where you only know that the largest majority of persons who stated any opinion at all by voting, is that of persons who voted against the far right nonsense that Trump and Co. are spouting, you go with that, not the "meh" vote. The "meh" vote have a point, its all bull, it all sucks, no one who was on the ballot was worth a crap. But you cannot discount a majority of voting peoples opinion.

There are a number of people who saw fit to make their wishes known. Of that number, most of those voted against the current Presidents ideas and stated aims. He now has to represent those people, and that means modifying the worst of his urges.

a reply to: KTemplar

Okay, I'm with you now.

Didn't pick that up on the first pass, but now that you've clarified...

I'm okay with that idea.

originally posted by: KTemplar

Sorry for your loss!

Thanks but he's still with us.

I think the correct statement is that no one has ever died from using and abusing marijuana.

a reply to: TrueBrit

True, Brit...true.

a reply to: Bone75


Well I'm happy he's still alive!

Thank you for the clarification

originally posted by: droid56
a reply to: droid56

Come on conservatives. Come on and say people should have the freedom to do what they want as long as they don't hurt others.

Yea like being able to drink surgery drinks? Use plastic bags? ....

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: droid56
a reply to: droid56

Come on conservatives. Come on and say people should have the freedom to do what they want as long as they don't hurt others.

I'm conservative, people SHOULD have the freedom to do what they want as long as they don't hurt others. What's your point?

It's the facists on the left who think that everyone should have that right apart from straight white males. For some reason the KKK and the Nazis are very bad but Islam is peaceful, when their ideologies are almost identical, apart from the fact that nazis and the kkk didn't support pedophilia or the subjugation of women.

It's the facists on the left who believe that it's ok to physically attack people who have a different opinion than them.

Fascism is a right wing philosophy

www.britannica.com...

Most scholars consider fascism to be right-wing because of its social conservatism and its authoritarian means of opposing egalitarianism.

just saying

originally posted by: TrueBrit

He now has to represent those people, and that means modifying the worst of his urges.

Your appeal to compassion for the opposing team must've completely escaped you with the passing of Obamacare.

a reply to: droid56

Don't forget he wants to give states the right to govern abortion laws, but federally enforce drug laws. He is a roving hypocrite.

a reply to: Bone75

There was only one big issue with the ACA and other measures regarding healthcare provision during the Obama administration, and that is the fact that he elected not to nationalise the healthcare provision in America entirely, getting the dirty scheming bastards in the insurance industry out of the picture entirely, thereby ensuring access to quality care for anyone who is sick, rather than just those who can afford not to be tortured to a slow death by a system which only respects money.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: KTemplar

Okay, I'm with you now.

Didn't pick that up on the first pass, but now that you've clarified...

I'm okay with that idea.

I also wanted to clarify that the Fentanyl lacing problem started occurring way before marajuana became legal in Massachusetts.

I believe my family member had that conversation with the dea agent 4 years ago.

Stop the sh#tbag illegal dealers who sell to our kids!

trump supporter (so far)

no on cannabis policy - its retarded

no on military increase

no on blanket deportion of illegals (exceptions should be made, as in the case of the illinois restaurant owner)

no on more oil pipelines (dont we have enough? its time for more renewable infrastructure)

no on Iran rhetoric (dont necessarily think its the most dangerous nation state in the world, but what do i know)

no on making abortion illegal (if they try to go that route)

no on rolling back environmental protections (at least the sensible ones, get rid of the dumb ones like peoples yards, rain collection, etc)




there are probly more things i dont agree on....but the things i agree on are pretty damn big.

more border protections

more control over who accesses our country via mass transit

less government overall

no TPP (glad he got us out of that screw job)

no or renegotiated trade deals like NAFTA

get out of the UN or drastically reduce involvement and their influence.

go after the Federal Reserve

increase national Sovereignty

and others.



I'm basically a classical liberal, live and let live.....provide for the national defense and infrastructure through the government and beyond that the less gov we have the better.

a reply to: Shminkee Pinkee

(BUZZER) Wrong!

Fascism has nothing to do with right or left, not in a modern context anyway. Fascism was coined back at the beginning of the 20th century and, if anything, aligned more directly with socialism which is a far cry from conservatism. People constantly get this wrong. Yes, there was a nationalistic element to early socialism, but this is where any similarities end. Outright socialism has absolutely nothing in common with the conservative movement. Nothing. Period. "Modern Scholars" are cut from academic cloth, so it stands to reason they would 'spin' a seemingly bad word to look like it comes from the other side.

Once again, 85% of the people using the word "fascism" use it incorrectly. Yours is another example. AND, I would implore you to actually read the link you posted!

Use the term correctly, or don't use it at all!

ETA...had you used 'fascist' in the context of elitism I might be more forgiving, but you clearly didn't. Remember; establishment elite exist on both the left and the right!! Any claim to the contrary is simply misinformed.

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: droid56
a reply to: droid56

Come on conservatives. Come on and say people should have the freedom to do what they want as long as they don't hurt others.

I'm conservative, people SHOULD have the freedom to do what they want as long as they don't hurt others. What's your point?

It's the facists on the left who think that everyone should have that right apart from straight white males. For some reason the KKK and the Nazis are very bad but Islam is peaceful, when their ideologies are almost identical, apart from the fact that nazis and the kkk didn't support pedophilia or the subjugation of women.

It's the facists on the left who believe that it's ok to physically attack people who have a different opinion than them.

And the winner for avoiding the question is... oh my god I'm so nervous... BLUETHESTEAK!! Way to go buddy!

Speaking for myself, yes, I'm fine with it. I'm generally neutral on the marijuana legalization issue, though perhaps I lean slightly toward legalization on the basis of individual freedom. I don't really care about the issue, though. As for the military spending issue, my preference would be for no change, but as I understand it, there are currently significant issues with military readiness and maintenance and this spending increase is intended to address that. On the surface, that's something I can support. I don't want our troops going into hostile environments with equipment that is falling apart.

originally posted by: Bobaganoosh
Trump supposedly supports states rights to make their own decisions.

Every action Trump or his proxies take generates a reaction, usually exponential.

I think that if Sessions goes after already legal recreational states, it will create a backlash of other states following suit.

Point is, I don't believe the momentum on legal weed can be stopped.

It has bipartisan support of an insane amount of common folk. It's an issue many of us can come together on.

To the backlash!

I think session is just barking to scare people and see how many they can get to cow tow. They will reach a compromise somewhere.

originally posted by: strongfp

originally posted by: GoShredAK
Is there any proof he is going to do this?

I have only heard Trump repeatedly say he wants a lean government and feels power should be given back to the states.

What is your source? Do you have a link?

But that's not what is happening, at all.
He has an admin full of yes men, and barks out EO and then ups the budget of a ferderally funded program, the military, oh and now this whole 'war on drugs' thing. Doesn't look like the power is going to the states at all.

Well that just sucks..

originally posted by: strongfp

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: droid56
a reply to: droid56

Come on conservatives. Come on and say people should have the freedom to do what they want as long as they don't hurt others.

It's the facists on the left...

It's the facists on the left who believe that it's ok to physically attack people who have a different opinion than them.

Fascists on the left?
What did I just read?

Fascism is a far right ideology, it's just slightly more right than nationalism. Which Trump is.

I think you misunderstand the world fascist.

You're lying.
Facsism is not left OR right . "Think how I think or I'll attack you", THATS facsism, it's also leftist ideology

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: strongfp

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: droid56
a reply to: droid56

Come on conservatives. Come on and say people should have the freedom to do what they want as long as they don't hurt others.

It's the facists on the left...

It's the facists on the left who believe that it's ok to physically attack people who have a different opinion than them.

Fascists on the left?
What did I just read?

Fascism is a far right ideology, it's just slightly more right than nationalism. Which Trump is.

I think you misunderstand the world fascist.

You're lying.
Facsism is not left OR right . "Think how I think or I'll attack you", THATS facsism, it's also leftist ideology

The literal definition of fascism in a dictionary means an authoritarian and nationalistic right wing system.

How is a left ideology?
An extreme left wing ideology is much different, but uses the same tactics to achieve it's goal. That's the only thing they have in common. They both rely on violence and oppression to get what they deem suitable for society.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk

originally posted by: strongfp

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: droid56
a reply to: droid56

Come on conservatives. Come on and say people should have the freedom to do what they want as long as they don't hurt others.

It's the facists on the left...

It's the facists on the left who believe that it's ok to physically attack people who have a different opinion than them.

Fascists on the left?
What did I just read?

Fascism is a far right ideology, it's just slightly more right than nationalism. Which Trump is.

I think you misunderstand the world fascist.

No, I think you do!

That's it! As I posted in another thread, more than 85% of people who use the word "fascist" have absolutely no idea what the term actually means! Apparently you must be (another) among them. Fascism is NOT a trait unique to either the left or the right! In fact, if you look at the very origins of the term, culturally, one might conclude (erroneously) it is almost exclusively left. However, it is neither.

Please use the term correctly, or don't use it at all.

No it's not.

How can you come here, tell me I am out right wrong when I have the power of the internet at my finger tips to simply search "The origin of the word fascism" which tells me a completely different 'definition' than you just proposed.

It literally says in wikipedia (with TWO citations):

"Fascism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism[1][2] that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I, before it spread to other European countries. Opposed to liberalism, Marxism, and anarchism, fascism is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum..."

Where does it say it is neither a left or right, but an over all ideology of political nut cases?