It Came From The Internet: FAKE NEWS!

a reply to: DJW001

When stuff gets outed as actual fake news, news fakery, hoaxes, it should go into the HOAX bin (the stuff still in the site btw). You might be able to call that marginalization, but censorship is the banning of certain stuff. Like how you fight tooth and nail to get infowars links banned from the site.

In other news:
YouTube loses millions as advertising row reaches US

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: [post=22050812]DJW001[/poste link to the last time I

When stuff gets outed as actual fake news, news fakery, hoaxes, it should go into the HOAX bin (the stuff still in the site btw). You might be able to call that marginalization, but censorship is the banning of certain stuff. Like how you fight tooth and nail to get infowars links banned from the site.

In other news:
YouTube loses millions as advertising row reaches US

Could you please link to the most recent example of me fighting "tooth and nail" to get Infowars banned from the site? So, what is your standard for determining whether or not news is "fake?" ATS prohibits Holocaust Denial. Is that censorship? Do you approve or disapprove, and why?

The images in this thread will give you a headache, but I think that is the intended purpose.

a reply to: DJW001

We're not supposed to discuss site policies. And this isn't the Mud Pit so I wont be roasting you as requested. But if you care to understand fake news in all its forms, perhaps you actually read "FEATURE 1" & "FEATURE 2" here. They're something of a masters course on the subject.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

We're not supposed to discuss site policies. And this isn't the Mud Pit so I wont be roasting you as requested. But if you care to understand fake news in all its forms, perhaps you actually read "FEATURE 1" & "FEATURE 2" here. They're something of a masters course on the subject.

Someone capable teaching a master's course can surely explain the difference between a private entity's "policies" and censorship. If a site can ban certain types of speech or certain types of sources, is that censorship? Why or why not? If so, why do you tolerate it? Do you have other places you can teach your master classes? If so, would being banned from one site be enough to cause you to go silent? Or would you find other ways to get the word out?

We all know that a handful of corporations own most of the corporate media. Why won't you move past that to get to more basic principles? There has always been samizdat publishing. How can you tell what is fact and what is fiction? Not all corporate media is factual, not all samizdat media are factual. The question is" how do you tell facts from alt-facts?"

a reply to: DJW001

Interesting case study you have interjected with this Holocaust Denier issue.

I've seen Syria described as a "genocide" by liberals, the liberal media, in lieu to scapegoating Russia as if it was their fault; their design. The scapegoating of course is all a twisted denial mechanism about Obama & Hillary etc being treasonous war criminals.

Imagine if there were a social movement bent on trivializing the entire ordeal, all that suffering (see OP), by outright denying it even happened; is happening.

Think back to the Holocaust Denier thing. I'm pretty sure the bulk of that whole theory came from the modern Neo-Nazi type crowd. Not that they're even "real" Nazi's, but they like to identify as such while promoting such lunacy. Of course they'd want to create a ruckus over it never even happened. What kind of monsters even could join up knowing that history? Surely being racist whatever doesn't inherently make people as genocidal monsters.

So now we have Syria, which is the topic herein. It was engineered by the CIA et al, it was enacted by Obama Hillary McCain Graham, the MSM did their jobs in selling placating and then running never ending damage control. To do it they've censored any perspectives from their narratives that would give people the tools needed to even come to this sort of conclusion (as they do with everything involved in American Imperialism). And while they don't deny the situation exists (its actually good PR for everyone sympathizing with the refugees, and so on), but they are scapegoating it onto Russia.

Of course modern Neo-Nazi's denying the Holocaust is a bit different because its modern wannabe's doing damage control + conspiracy theories of old stuff an extinct political party perpetrated. Today its a little different as we have something that is in motion currently, which requires being perpetually sold to the entire World essentially. So instead of deny it outright they spin up all these insane scapegoat conspiracy theories.

Which is something like what Hitler and the real Nazi Party would have spun into their populace when their schemes were in motion.

So spare us the sideshow. You wanna live up to Nazi media manipulation standards go for it. It's funny though, all those threads you called for, directly appealed to the staff, to outright ban Infowars links and content from the site. It makes sense since Infowars is the only one of the only 'news' sites any where near MSM league that you could get a view anything like mine here. You also have beef with GlobalResearch.ca, openly labeling them as an actual arm of the Russian propaganda apparatus, all for being anti-American Imperialism.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

So spare us the sideshow. You wanna live up to Nazi media manipulation standards go for it.

I do not applaud you and give you stars, therefore I am a Nazi? Got it.

It's funny though, all those threads you called for, directly appealed to the staff, to outright ban Infowars links and content from the site.

All those threads? You mean that one? Do you really have a false memory that I have started countless threads, or are you deliberately distorting reality in the strange belief that anyone but us and a Mod are actually following this incomprehensible thread?

It makes sense since Infowars is the only one of the only 'news' sites any where near MSM league that you could get a view anything like mine here.

Given that Alex Jones has a long history of lying, promoting hoaxes on his radio program, paying people to stage surreal political protests, and making incendiary statements in the hopes of starting a race war that will destroy America, I hope you can see why I am not unduly impressed with your "research."

You also have beef with GlobalResearch.ca, openly labeling them as an actual arm of the Russian propaganda apparatus, all for being anti-American Imperialism.

They are an arm of Russian propaganda! They do not limit themselves to mere Anti-Americanism, either. They try to scrub the blood off Russia's hands. You will never find coverage of Russian "anti-terror" actions in the Caucuses there, but if an American drone accidentally hits a hospital.... What's more, they also follow the Kremlin's line when it comes to undercutting domestic European affairs. They have a constant flow of commentators who analyze everything in terms of Eurasianism, the Russian answer to Globalism. Eurasianism is an alternative to the "post war global system" only insofar as it intends to replace Euro-American dominance with Russian dominance:

Thread from two years ago.

Eurasianism is the brainchild of Alexandr Dugin, who has flirted with authoritarian philosophies from both the left and right, eventually inspiring the "Identarian Movement" which has just crossed onto the anti-terror radar of European authorities. The Identarians are disproportionately well organized given their numbers, and have ideological links to the alt-right here in the United States. Donald Trump has been caught using misleading graphics from globalresearch, suggesting that he has been consuming their propaganda; this would explain his penchant for for surrounding himself with Russian agents... but I digress.

I agree that American imperialism must stop. Will you join me in agreeing that Russian imperialism must also stop?

ETA: You still haven't explained who you would trust to determine whether or not something is "fake news." In Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, and, now, Turkey, they have government ministries to determine what is "real news." Would you prefer the government truth check your news for you, or would you rather have a wide range of sources? (Even if most of those sources are controlled by private corporations?)

This just in:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Now that's reliable journalism.

a reply to: DJW001

There was the one you started in Board Business calling for IW to be outright banned from the site. Then you carried on about it for several pages in my 'WHAT is this "alt-right"?' thread. Then there were multiple threads during the FAKE NEWS push this winter you carried on about censoring those 2 sources. Then most recently there was a story that it was painfully obvious a top mod was called in via ALERT while arriving with the pretense that it was definitely fabricated news, after you had finally showed up blasting IW for a couple pages as a totally bunk fake hoax kind of news source (which in your ban IW thread you had been told that without a clear pattern of HOAXES they wouldn't be). That's not counting all the other IW related threads I've seen you derail, the pages of private messages I'd wager stacks you've sent to the mods about banning them... while that's just the stuff I've happened to notice and note since late last summer.

a reply to: DJW001

In several of the following threads you can be seen in several of them carrying on for pages upon pages upon pages along the lines I just mentioned, as well as in total bootlicking of the government Ministry of Truth + Corporate Media Lapdog's apoligism / worship.

I had intend to post these in as Appendix, but then didn't want to disrupt the comments with a wall of text,, and then never got around to doing it as an offshoot tread. But ghere it is:

APPENDIX A:

SEE ALSO THESE ATS DISCUSSION THREADS:
A Clinton Fan Manufactured Fake News That MSNBC Personalities Spread to Discredit WikiLeaks Docs
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Washington Post Appends "Russian Propaganda Fake News" Story, Admits It May Be Fake
Press finally admits Clinton campaign attempted to directly influence the media!!!
Former CIA Operative Robert Baer Calls for new US Election
ATS made the list. We are somebody now
Silly Liberals: you're trying to hand Trump these 'fake news' censorship machinations!
What Is The Real Purpose Behind “Fake News” Propaganda?
Proof Foreign Governments Did Interfere In Election – to Help Hillary!
German politicians call for fake news used in a 'targeted campaign' to be made a crime
Michigan to investigate 20 voting precincts where recount revealed massive discrepencies
Obama/Clinton/CIA and the coup d’etat of a democratically elected president in Honduras
After they get through attacking fake news could free speech be the ultimate fatality?
US Gov’t, Oligarchs Behind Planned Fake News Flagging on Facebook
How DEMOCRATS colluded with Russia to rig the election
The Bittersweet Sweepstakes to Build an AI That Destroys Fake News
NDAA 2017 Creates Global Engagement Center, or Ministry of US Propoganda
-BREAKING- FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win
Washington Post launches Chrome plug-in to fact-check Trump on Twitter
The attempted Clinton-CIA coup against Donald Trump
10 Ways the CIA’s ‘Russian Hacking’ Story is Left-Wing ‘Fake News’
10 Ways the CIA’s ‘Russian Hacking’ Story is Left-Wing ‘Fake News’
Why aren't The Democrats or their media upset about Mexico's influence over our elections?
Countering Disinformation and Propaganda Act H.R. 5181
CNN Reporter Exposes Depths of FAKE NEWS and Pay to Publish by Foreign Govts
A Non-Western Perspective of Syria.
Where is the evidence of this supposed "Russian Influence", or is all this just more FAKE NEWS?
A Clinton Fan Manufactured Fake News That MSNBC Personalities Spread to Discredit WikiLeaks Docs
Sean Hannity's message to the press: You've been exposed as fake
8 Times Hillary Clinton Pushed Fake News
Reuters Exclusive- Top U.S. spy agency has not embraced CIA assessment on Russia hacking
No Fake News! No Fake News! You're The Fake News!
Evidence of State-sponsored Hacking of DNC
Fake News??? (an alternate look)
Why Media Literacy Education is Preferable to Censorship
Media Matters Founder David Brock Vows to Create a ‘Breitbart of the Left’
Podesta email reveals Colbert Was Instructed By Politicians What To Put On Show--Nice---
Breaking, ABC caught staging a crime scene!
US Govt Just Legalized Operation Mockingbird - FBI Can Now Impersonate the Media
CNN slings accusations of "Fake News" but it turns out to be "Fake News".
Congress Approves Measure for Crusade Against “Fake News” — Using DoD Funding
Hillary Clinton discusses the 'fake news'
Intel Officials Refuse To Brief DHS Chairman or House Intel CMMTE or Electors on Russian Hacking
Saudi Arabia lobbies US over 9/11 law, I Bet They Are Lobbying
Podesta: ‘The Russians distorted the election’
Jessica Lynch: One of the Pentagon's ultimate absurdities in the annals of FAKE NEWS
George Soros is Funding Facebook's Third-Party Fact Checking Organization Targeting Fake News
The MSM driven Mass Shooting Contagion Effect - The Most Diabolical FAKE NEWS
NSA Whistleblower just shredded Obama's 'Russian Hacker' narrative
Intel Officials Refuse To Brief DHS Chairman or House Intel CMMTE or Electors on Russian Hacking
The CIA and the Washington Post - What You’re Not Being Told

The Global Meltdown of FEAR: Eliminated
German politician threatens to fine Facebook €500,000 every time it shows fake news
Fake News is Not a Problem
U.S. " Ministry of Truth " Estabished Dec. 23 2016 or NDAA for Fiscal Year 2017 ( S.2943 )
How to construct a fake news article and fool children.
FBI, DHS release report on Russia hacking
52% of Democrats believe Russia tampered with the "Vote Totals" to get Trump elected president
Yes, it is proven Russia did not hack the voter registration.
Obama ignores evidence Russia didnt hack DNC Podesta
Obama administration prepares sanctions retaliation for Russian election meddling
U.S. Expels Diplomats.
Obama Signs Act - Fake News Is Now Illegal Just Deem It Foreign Propaganda
GRIZZLY STEPPE – Russian Malicious Cyber Activity
CNN runs fake news story about Russia closing American school as retaliation
Trump Left a Tough Choice by Obama Sanctions on Russian Hacking
The Truth About What Constitutes "Fake News" for the Left Which They Want to Ban.
Washington Post Stirs Fear After False Report Of Power Grid Hack By Russia
POLITICO Senate Push for New Russia Hacking Probe Fizzles
DNC ‘Russian Hacking’ Conclusion Comes from Google-Linked Firm
US election hacking: Putin 'sought to help' Trump
John McAfee: ‘I Can Guarantee You, It Was Not the Russians’ (Kim dot Com agrees)
Why is it so hard for Most Trump supporters to believe Russia tried to influence our election?
Can the MSM be punished for their "election tampering"?
Obama Signs Act - Fake News Is Now Illegal Just Deem It Foreign Propaganda
Donald Trump engaged in 'perverted sexual acts' monitored by Russia intelligence, report says
4Chan Claims To Have Fabricated Anti-Trump Report As A Hoax
Trump refuses CNN reporters question and calls them fake news Priceless
McCain's Role in the CNN/Buzzfeed Attempted Burn Job On Trump
NBC Universal Invests $200 Million in BuzzFeed
Trump: "I Think it Was Russia"
New York Times Reporter Apologizes for Calling Melania Trump a ‘Hooker’
Former Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) on Gen. Michael Flynn resigning
Flynn Insists He Crossed No Lines, Leakers Must Be Prosecuted
Main Stream Media Fake News And Political Bias Is A National Security Issue
Mexico: “The things that have been said are nonsense and a downright lie."
Did Donald Trump commit treason?
Putin Killing Off and Arresting Dossier Sources
U.S. Allies conduct intelligence operation against Trump administration, intercept communications
Of all people, Moby has the scoop on Trump
WIKILEAKS RELEASE: CIA espionage orders for the last French presidential election
Hillary Crony Cites “Revenge for Pizzagate” (Flynn's resignation)
Trump Declares CNN, NYT, CBS, ABC And NBC Are "The Enemy of The American People"
McCain defends the media in NBC interview
Tucker Carlson Interviews Dem (And Ex-CIA): Spy Plot Against Trump Is Out Of Control
MSNBC Host Implies The Media's Job is to "Control What People Think."
McCain defends the media in NBC interview
Former Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) on Intel community trying to undermine Trump's presidency
Greenwald: Even Americans Who Hate Trump Should Defend Him Against Attempted Coup
Please remember the OPM Data Breach under Obama's administration

originally posted by: DJW001
This just in:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Now that's reliable journalism.

Ya I saw it. Lemme know when the likes of CNN, or even FOX do the same with say Syria, and finally start calling out the top henchmen for the war criminals they are. That would be a most surreal day in human history.

Aside from IW, and GR.ca, I suspect only Democracy Now! as far as "news orgs" of any prominence would ever say anything like that. I haven't got caught up on DN!, although I did see them hitting ObamaHillaryCo. for reviving Operation CONDOR in Latin and South America. They're totally leftist, maybe play them for a month and at least get a good grip on American Imperialism and then my 'all the MSM are fake perspective war monger news' position will finally add up.

Come away from the Dark Side, the good guys could use more people with your tenacity.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

I followed some of those links. It wasn't easy to read the weak words of weasel woo and made me throw up in my mouth a little. The word 'Punk' kept coming to mind. With all that gratuitous & sickening bootlicking I wonder if it has any tongue left?

I eventually decided that it's the Turncoat of many colors: Black tongue, brown nose, yellow spine...

What you wanna bet I get tattled on?

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

So you don't like it when I point out that Infowars is fake news? Now please stop dodging the question: who do you trust to determine whether or not something is factual? Under what conditions should someone be punished for publishing something?

a reply to: DJW001

If Infowars is "fake news", then CNN etc whom you all worship are "FAKE NEWS". Unless you're actually ready & able to refute my OP, refute my series of over 15 pieces I had to craft to tell the 'story'????

Fine, you want IW to be "racist" "fake news" that needs to be banned from the site, I'll meet you there, just so long as you're ready to admit that all the corporate criminal MSM is first to be banned, along with all your favored liberal web outlets along the lines of BuzzFeed, Huffington Puffington post, and so on.

Is it a deal?????

Note that I've never called for any of the above, their content, to be banned from here. I merely call for them to be exposed for what they are, and anti-trust suits to go down to bust up their corporatocracy hold over our elections, our foreign policy, and so on. Just the same as I call for the Two party System to be busted up and real competitors to be actually allowed to take them on competitively. Sure it isn't one 'company', or it isn't one 'party', but in functionality each set operates as a MONOPOLY.

So unless you're ready to argue that the Bell telecom monopoly shouldn't have been broken up back in the day, and other corporate robber baron monopolies from times past should NOT have been busted up, then you should be applauding my efforts with this series.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

what's your avatar of ?

a reply to: kibric

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
My latest avatar. NOT my art, but in case anyone is wondering its one of the propaganda posters from the show Fringe, after the "Observers" come back from the future and take over the world:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

thanks for sharing

hey they all dress me
but they're missing the red lipstick

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Please link to a post where I say that I worship CNN.

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