China to lead New World Order

Chinese president Xi Jinping has vowed for the first time that China should take the lead in shaping the “new world order” and safeguarding international security, one of the latest moves putting him in stark contrast to Donald Trump and the US president’s “America First” policy.

It seems the cat is officially out of the bag now. The open discussion of the NWO is real and happening now. Of course, its rears its ugly head under the guise of "international security", read "control of the masses". China, long time abuser of human rights, wants to lead the way in establishing the NWO. This will not sit well with free thinking people, especially in the United States, who would likely reject any effort along those lines simply because of its nation of origin.

This could be the alignment of stars many have been waiting for, the gathering point for what could be a global resistance to a single point authority.

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The two biggest dogs always fight. My money would once have been on America, but now that it is a land of milquetoasts and pantywaists my bookmaker favours the Chinese guy.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

Interesting, especially on practical level. How the heck China is going to lead anything in economical aspect with its hungry population and lack of resources? With gung fu?

Just pondering...

a reply to: Vroomfondel

And no one believed me when I predicted this years ago.

Ah well. S+F mate!

I don't think that new world order is the new world order that the new world order considers as the real new world order
In fact I think China's new world order is going to upset the other new world order, two new world orders, that's right, I read about that happening somewhere
Wasn't this predicted a couple of millennia ago

originally posted by: CulturalResilience
The two biggest dogs always fight. My money would once have been on America, but now that it is a land of milquetoasts and pantywaists my bookmaker favours the Chinese guy.

I know what you mean. I can picture UN troops cornering a bunch of "protesters" who start crying and ask for therapy dogs and a pizza. Its bad enough that US troops are forced to agree to fire on US citizens if ordered to do so, but the idea that UN troops could be here is really frightening. The US troops have a chance of refusing to kill their own people. The UN troops are far more likely to just follow orders and get the job done. And I believe it will be UN troops, especially with Trump pulling back from the UN.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

China is not capable of leading a new world order. Nor is America.

Neither have a perfect human rights record in recent times, and that is a must for any nation seeking to install itself as the worlds policeman. I would suggest that no nation exists, other than perhaps Bhutan, which has the moral foundation necessary to install itself in that position. That is to say, there is no nation with the financial and military resources necessary to perform such a role, which is also fit to fill the position from a moral standpoint. Best leave that idea in the dust, where it belongs.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

What?!

Trump's pulling back from the UN?!

Source please, I need to know more.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Vroomfondel

China is not capable of leading a new world order. Nor is America.

Neither have a perfect human rights record in recent times, and that is a must for any nation seeking to install itself as the worlds policeman. I would suggest that no nation exists, other than perhaps Bhutan, which has the moral foundation necessary to install itself in that position. That is to say, there is no nation with the financial and military resources necessary to perform such a role, which is also fit to fill the position from a moral standpoint. Best leave that idea in the dust, where it belongs.

I would agree with you except for a few things nagging at me. One is that China won't act alone. It will be through the UN, which has recently been pushed aside by Trump who doesn't want to support it any more. Also, people are afraid all over the world. Fear has a way of uniting people against all odds, even enemies, to fight a common foe. In this case the fear of being on the short end of the NWO.

originally posted by: swanne
a reply to: Vroomfondel

What?!

Trump's pulling back from the UN?!

Source please, I need to know more.

Most news sources say it is being considered but give it little chance of happening in totality. They think it more likely that it will be a partial withdrawal or de-funding of some kind. Although, I don't see Trump as a half-way kind of guy. Its possible, but there is also a bill in congress right now called, "The American Sovereignty Act of 2017" link, suggesting the US pull out of the UN completely.

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a reply to: Vroomfondel
The phrase "new world order" exists outside the world of conspiracy theory, and outside that world it doesn't necessarily mean whan conspiracy theorists mean.
In fact politicians talk about "A" rather than "THE" new world order. When China uses the phrase, as here, they mean one led by China. If Trump uses the phrase, he will mean one led by Trump.
In other words, they are all talking about different new world orders.

That is why it is a mistake for conspiracy theorists to start jumping up and down in excitement every time somebody uses the phrase in public. As they did when some athletics commentator said there was going to be a "new world order" because a comparative outsider had won a race in the Olympics (obviously she meant a new order in the world of athletics). Anyone using the phrase in public is not talking about the NWO as advertised by conspiracy theorists. They are talking about some non-conspiratorial private version of the idea.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

Thanks! I agree with your conclusion.

a reply to: DISRAELI

Whomever intends to lead the NWO will do it from their own perspective and ultimately with their own agenda. That is what makes an NWO so alarming to so many people. Not everyone will agree with that perspective or agenda. So, yes, there are multiple potential NWO scenarios. However, there will only be one NWO to reach fruition. The very nature of NWO precludes the possibility of multiple co-existing formats.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

The real war and the real players are slowly showing their true colors - the veil masking the 2-party deception is slowly being lifted and folks are starting to see the massive powers that are colluding to work against the betterment of average Joe by way of consolidating everything we need to survive on this god forsaken rock for themselves.

The current global political and banking system does not benefit any of us, not by a long shot, it has beholden us all to a mental slavery, of which conformity to X or Y has become the dog-whistle and "those that disagree are surely against me"

Sad

a reply to: Vroomfondel
We already have a new world order. The world order we have now is not the world order which existed before 1939, and that was not the world order which existed before 1789. "New world order", outside conspiracy theory, is just a way of saying "The world changes, and new sets of people will be in charge". If our present world order is replaced by a different world order, that in turn will be replaced by an even newer world order, and so on, probably indefinitely.
When politiians use the phrase "new world order" in public, that is all they mean, so there is no point in seeing any sinister significance in the fact.

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: Vroomfondel

The real war and the real players are slowly showing their true colors - the veil masking the 2-party deception is slowly being lifted and folks are starting to see the massive powers that are colluding to work against the betterment of average Joe by way of consolidating everything we need to survive on this god forsaken rock for themselves.

The current global political and banking system does not benefit any of us, not by a long shot, it has beholden us all to a mental slavery, of which conformity to X or Y has become the dog-whistle and "those that disagree are surely against me"

Sad

I couldn't agree more. The image has been there in front of us for a long time, but it is only now slowly coming in to focus. The current political and economic systems are completely rigged against the common man. The US economy right now is at a tipping point and can not be sustained much longer. You simply can't solve a credit problem with more credit. The moment of insolvency comes when the debt is called on and we have no way of paying it now. Whatever is going to happen, will happen fairly soon globally speaking.

a reply to: DISRAELI

I understand what you are saying but I think there is more to it than that. Your reference to a new world order is a new status quo - the new ruling class, which as you said changes from time to time. I believe there is a more sinister NWO that has a much more fiendish agenda. Though technically whatever happens will end up being the new status quo, I think there is a definitive difference between natural evolution and machination.

Theresa May: America and Britain will 'lead together again' after Brexit and election of Trump

Theresa May will say that Britain and America can “rediscover our confidence” and “lead together again” in the wake of Brexit and the election of Donald Trump.

The Prime Minister will address the annual congressional Republican Retreat in Philadelphia and say that the UK and USA will “renew the Special Relationship” now that President Trump is in the White House.

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The two leaders will hold talks in the Oval Office and are expected to discuss plans for a major post-Brexit trade deal.

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It appears everyone forgot about that. I took the phrase "lead together again" to refer to leading the world order. As I wrote in that thread...

"It sounds to me like Theresa May is referring to a new new world order which would be a reforming of the old world order?"

a reply to: Profusion

Interesting. Those, China / US-Britain, could be the two (potentially more) figureheads for the coming storm. If there is any resistance to a China led NWO I suspect it would come in a form very much like this.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

China Presses Tech Firms to Police the Internet
Nov. 18, 2016
Picture an internet where tech companies are deputized as crime-fighters, where censors keep radical views in check and where governments work together to achieve global order in cyberspace. That is China’s vision, and its third-annual World Internet Conference that ended Friday was aimed at proselytizing that view to tech executives and government leaders who assembled here from around the world. China’s efforts to promote its concept of the internet had fresh resonance as Western minds now debate whether social media sites should screen out fake news, or if smartphone makers should help police gain access to the secrets locked away in the devices of suspected criminals.