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originally posted by: butcherguy
originally posted by: Outlier13
originally posted by: butcherguy
originally posted by: ColdWisdom
a reply to: Outlier13
Interesting, indeed.
My main question is, why?!
What on earth would Putin have to gain from funding HRC's campaign manager?
Or is this somehow related to that Russian uranium deal?
I would expect that like the big corporations and banks, they would spread the money around.
Everyone expected Hillary Clinton would win.
The Russians would be foolish if they didn't plan for Clinton Presidency.
Valid point about the Russians hedging their bets BUT...this all occurred long before Trump declared he was running for POTUS. This particular story goes all the way back to 2009 when HRC first took the position of Sec of State.
I believe that Trump is an actual outsider that wasn't supposed to win.
Back in 2009, Hillary was expected to run and win in 2016, after she cut her deal with Obama to drop out of the race in exchange for the Secretary of State slot and grooming for 2016 by the Democratic leaders.
This........... And the Russians didn't hack the DNC...
originally posted by: ColdWisdom
a reply to: xuenchen
No wonder they kept pressing the Trump/Russian thing.
So far it seems that every attack launched at Trump from DNC stooges both before and after the election have been a projection of HRC's own failures & corruptions.
It makes it really easy for me to identify the flaws of HRC and the failing left.
originally posted by: DJW001
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: DJW001
You didn't link the one that explains all of your work in here:
Is it time to make Infowars non grata?
Please read that post. It explains why you should not believe the lies Infowars publishes. Sorry if the ignorant do not understand the definition of "censorship."
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: DJW001
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: DJW001
You didn't link the one that explains all of your work in here:
Is it time to make Infowars non grata?
Please read that post. It explains why you should not believe the lies Infowars publishes. Sorry if the ignorant do not understand the definition of "censorship."
Your post was clear - you want to close down the speech of those who YOU deem to be unreliable.
originally posted by: Vailx
Why are you copy pasting from Infowars, a known disinfo source.
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: The GUT
I believe myself to be much more objective than yourself.
You can believe anything you want. Did I say that Clinton's foundation was above suspicion? No. There is certainly reason to suspect that there were shady dealings. Clinton is not the President, Donald Trump is. If Clinton received bribes from Russian interests, it should be investigated and she should be charged, if true. That would be simple corruption. The pressing issue is: Is President Trump being manipulated by the Russian government? If he is, that is treason.
If she was bribed and manipulated when SoS, that would count as treason?
I think so.
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: burgerbuddy
If she was bribed and manipulated when SoS, that would count as treason?
I think so.
You think wrong. She was motivated to line her pocket, not betray her country. President Trump is also attempting to line his pocket. That is also corruption. The question is whether he actively sought the aid of an enemy of the people of the United States to achieve power and betray the nation. That is certainly treason.
She sold 20% of our uranium to an "enemy of the people of the United States" for her own gain?
LOL, sounds like treason to me or are you gonna try that "intent" BS on all of us here?
The BBC story lists many of the alleged connections in between the Russian president, and Trump’s network. Predictably, there is no mention of Hillary Clinton’s ties to the anti-Russia mob. A Putin-Trump hating reporter Josh Marshall is even sourced, for his condemnation of the alleged Trump-Putin connections. Looking at Marshall’s evidence I find a 2008 statement found on press release dump site eTurbonews, of a 2008 statement by Donald Jr. at a real estate conference back then. ”Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.” Predictably (again) this is being parroted all over the internet today. What is also predictable in these reports are the missing pieces of context. The statement mainstream media is harping on today was made at a time when every real estate developer worth a nickel was looking at emerging markets, and in particular Russia.
Donald Trump Jr. stated: “The emerging world in general attributes such brand premium to real estate that we are looking all over the place, primarily Russia. There are countries that have not been fully tapped by us such as Thailand, Vietnam and Argentina. We are currently looking at potential deals. Our interest is really everywhere because there is a lot of new money in the emerging markets which appeal to certain brands whether ego-driven or having the life-jacket effect that we feel gives added-value to our investment.”
Today’s reports do not reflect the younger Trumps concerned, nor do they tell us of his candidness about doing business in Russia. The snipped taken out of context is what matters. 2008-2009 was an eventful investing time in Russia, let’s remember. Nat Rothschild and legendary American hedge fund billionaire John Paulson bought into Russian aluminum company Rusal, but no one has accused them of collusion with Putin. George Soros’s Quantum Fund reportedly lost over $2 billion on hedging the ruble and other Russian investments, but no one has accused Soros of being buddy-buddy with Putin or Dmitry Medvedev (who was president at the time).
I could go on-and-on, but my point is well made already. “Predictably”, assertions against Donald Trump the presidential candidate lead inextricably to Hillary too. The current story covers the fact that the Clinton Foundation was involved in the “Uranium” scandal during 2009. Yes, while Donald Trump “investments” were seeing some Russian cash flowing in, the Secretary of State was benefitting from selling off the United States’ strategic uranium reserves to Russia. Amazingly, nobody has suggested Bill and Hillary Clinton are controlled by Mr. Putin journal-neo.org...