I Finally Bought My Metal Detector !!!!

a reply to: rickymouse

I found out from an archeologist at one of the conventions that the newer metal detectors sold do not pick up most artifacts, the frequencies have been eliminated to insure that people do not disturb the ancient sites and dig up some of the burial artifacts and other important artifacts. This was an international action, every metal detector made after a certain date many years ago is compliant. My detector can detect those things in some modes, it is older than the change.

You should have told them to get out of town (GTFO)!

Metal detectors detect metal. Tin, iron, steel, silver, gold, bronze, copper etc. There's no way of producing a metal detector that's blind to any metals without people noticing.

a reply to: ttobban


Wow !, great video. Yes, I am researching for a waterproof coil. To be honest, never thought about magnet fishing.

I have a Whites Eagle Spectrum, and two whites coinmasters over the years before that. Ive found all kinds of stuff. Rings necklaces, lots of coins, several silver franklin halves , and silver dimes.

originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: rickymouse

Thanks Ricky, I see there is a lot of stuff that I need to learn about the noble art of treasure hunting.


One thing I must find out first is how to protect the coil. Also wonder if there is a waterproof coil I can attach to my device.

The one I got has three coils and they are all waterproof. You can buy the coils seperately I think.

I joined the metal detecting site about maybe twenty years ago, I can't remember what it is called anymore. I tried searching but couldn't find it. It had many excellent articles about finding stuff. I can't believe I cannot remember the name. It will come to me when I am not trying to remember it I suppose.

I must have read hundreds of articles on that site, How can I not remember it?

originally posted by: Trueman

originally posted by: JesusXst
a reply to: Trueman

cool, find anything?

I'll start using it next weekend. Promise to share pics !!!

Thats cool, I'll check back in, can't wait to see them. I need a better camera/telescope. Hopefully soon.

I must have read hundreds of articles on that site, How can I not remember it?

a reply to: rickymouse

Oh come on...., you are not older than those coins you found.

a reply to: visitedbythem

First and only time time I used a metal detector was in Peru, my friend had 2 detectors and let me use one. We found some old knifes and other stuff buried by people before escaping Chilean invasion during the 1879 - 1883 war.

We had to leave soon when some people started to get too close, we just drop all in the car and got out. That made that trip even more exciting I guess.

A tip I was given concerning metal detection is....Go to the beaches where the rich people live. This came from a friend that claimed to have found a 10k Rolex on St. Kitts.

originally posted by: olaru12
A tip I was given concerning metal detection is....Go to the beaches where the rich people live. This came from a friend that claimed to have found a 10k Rolex on St. Kitts.

That's sweet. I definitely can use 10k.
...., pay that car loan or that Harley Davidson I always wanted.

You made me dream !

a reply to: rickymouse

That archaeologist was talking utter nonsense..
The majority of coin/relic detectors are in the 6 -18khz range which is perfectly capable of picking up any artefacts/relics sitting at a depth of up to 12+ inches.
There is no international regulation?

Also quartz has no effect whatsoever on a metal detector unless it contains a ferrous/non-ferrous metal ie gold, tin, pyrite or iron.



Truman,

A few tips
For Gold... Quartz loves it... So if on a walk and you see a big patch of quartz/calcite somewhere in the area will be a gold lode also... Not always but more often than not.

Also look for mergers of different mineralisation ie red dirt merging with grey dirt along these lines gold likes to sit.
And is more likely to be in creeks than ontop of hills..

Coin/relic detectors are generally not suited for gold but that's not to say you can't find any.

I've found for every 30+ targets dug maybe 2 or 3 will have anything cool to keep, the rest is usually just trash... The ground is full of it depending where you go(most areas to find relics and coins are high trash areas as well.. lots and lots of aluminium scraps and nails)
Don't give up if you haven't found anything of interest after digging a bunch of holes and getting nothing.. Persistence is key when detecting,
Even if it sounds like a trash target dig it up.

The ground will sometimes work against you due to high mineralisation you will hear phantom signals and weird blips which there is not much you can do about unless your machine has ground balancing or uses pi technology.

So far I have found a revolver from the 1800s, countless coins oldest being 1738, heaps of old time tools, fine silver cutlery and a few nuggets of gold
Living in Australia means i won't find anything older than the 18th century.

I wish I was in Europe the chance of finding an old sword or coins/jewellery dating back to the times of the Romans would be amazing!

If you find you are really liking relic hunting and want to upgrade machines( which you can usually do by selling what you find) I highly recommend any of the machines from Minelab or Garrett.

originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: rickymouse

I found out from an archeologist at one of the conventions that the newer metal detectors sold do not pick up most artifacts, the frequencies have been eliminated to insure that people do not disturb the ancient sites and dig up some of the burial artifacts and other important artifacts. This was an international action, every metal detector made after a certain date many years ago is compliant. My detector can detect those things in some modes, it is older than the change.

You should have told them to get out of town (GTFO)!

Metal detectors detect metal. Tin, iron, steel, silver, gold, bronze, copper etc. There's no way of producing a metal detector that's blind to any metals without people noticing.

Burial artifacts used by many cultures have the gold dust embedded into the ceramics of the jars or statues. Also metal powders were used in man made stones or concrete, sometimes the concrete was made from the bones of the person and there is no body left, just bone chips that were cemented together.

When I get cooked I want by kids to pour my ashes into some cement and I will have a mold already ready, I will be in my headstone. This practice was used a lot moons ago by many cultures, most used special clays as the artifact, porcelain headstones.

These processes of embedding metals in a concretion forms a mineral. Every mineral can trip a detector that has a broad range to the detection frequency. Older detectors had a broader range and a way to narrow the range plus you could discriminate. They easily lowered the frequency range and nobody was even aware they had made a change. The guy I met actually had a friend that was involved in working with this. It has been done worldwide already he said. They just adjusted the frequencies the detectors search.

If there is a solid gold or metal artifact you can still detect it. Even ones coated with gold leaf are not effected, they can still be found. The golden calf in the bible is not solid gold, it was covered in gold leaf.

I have one rock in the basement with what looks like bone chips in it, but the Indians around here did not do that with humans. They did use ground up animal bones around here to make a type of cement though, The chunk of rock I have is probably something of that sort. I got a clay one that has what looks like barley or rice seeds in it too, that would be a different thing, they used to haul seeds around hardened in clay and they would last for a very long time. I discovered this after seeing a bunch of plants growing around a rock near the raspberry bushes, plants that were nowhere found in my yard. a couple of them were growing from the seed in the rock. They were all the same plant, they were all Stinging nettle.

Now, I got stinging nettle all over the place. I let them grow to see what they were, that was a mistake. I pulled them up and threw them in the bushes, now they grow everywhere after about seven years. I looked up if people put seeds in clay, and they sure did, almost all cultures did that. They also coated foods with clay and dried them, they could store them that way and then kept them cool and just tossed the clay rocks into the fire and when they cracked up they were cooked.

I can't discover anything new, when I think I did, I find it is well known in some specialized fields.

a reply to: Jognir

Thank you so much for all those tips. I think I finally found an outdoor activity perfect for me. Nothing like having the chance to uncover history with your own hands.

originally posted by: Jognir
a reply to: rickymouse

That archaeologist was talking utter nonsense..
The majority of coin/relic detectors are in the 6 -18khz range which is perfectly capable of picking up any artefacts/relics sitting at a depth of up to 12+ inches.
There is no international regulation?

Also quartz has no effect whatsoever on a metal detector unless it contains a ferrous/non-ferrous metal ie gold, tin, pyrite or iron.



Truman,

A few tips
For Gold... Quartz loves it... So if on a walk and you see a big patch of quartz/calcite somewhere in the area will be a gold lode also... Not always but more often than not.

Also look for mergers of different mineralisation ie red dirt merging with grey dirt along these lines gold likes to sit.
And is more likely to be in creeks than ontop of hills..

Coin/relic detectors are generally not suited for gold but that's not to say you can't find any.

I've found for every 30+ targets dug maybe 2 or 3 will have anything cool to keep, the rest is usually just trash... The ground is full of it depending where you go(most areas to find relics and coins are high trash areas as well.. lots and lots of aluminium scraps and nails)
Don't give up if you haven't found anything of interest after digging a bunch of holes and getting nothing.. Persistence is key when detecting,
Even if it sounds like a trash target dig it up.

The ground will sometimes work against you due to high mineralisation you will hear phantom signals and weird blips which there is not much you can do about unless your machine has ground balancing or uses pi technology.

So far I have found a revolver from the 1800s, countless coins oldest being 1738, heaps of old time tools, fine silver cutlery and a few nuggets of gold
Living in Australia means i won't find anything older than the 18th century.

I wish I was in Europe the chance of finding an old sword or coins/jewellery dating back to the times of the Romans would be amazing!

If you find you are really liking relic hunting and want to upgrade machines( which you can usually do by selling what you find) I highly recommend any of the machines from Minelab or Garrett.

I don't look for the metals to find artifacts, I look for minerals and use the discriminator to alter that to find what I want. Do the new ones have the mineral mode? Here is the one I got. www.youtube.com...

When you clear your head out of the "I want to find valuable metals" mode, you start to find some interesting stuff, like stones that have been ground into weird shapes and old metal things that have completely deteriorated and been leached into the soils. I have found some weird stuff I have researched and found that others have found the same almost identical things. These artifacts are not valuable, but they are interesting, evidently everyone wants gold and silver.

My stepfather had someone bring in an old metal sword made out of a copper or copper alloy that was bent into a loop for scrap copper and he saved it. I forgot about it being an old sword when hauling copper to the scrap yard one day, it got scrapped. The vikings used those and bent ones were burial artifacts, whether a viking buried it or whether an immigrant brought it here and buried it is the only thing I do not know. It's gone now, although, maybe it is still hanging around in a garage somewhere, maybe I kept it and moved it somewhere else. I know by looking at the green it is very old. My stepfather used to buy and sell scrap, he had some weird old things.

I would love to see pics of what you guys find! Can't wait!

Bought my Garrett late last summer, and early frost came and ground was hard to dig. So i am waiting next summer when i have more time to explore. I know there is a lot of history in this country and relics has been found almost in every corner of this country, this country even in north has been inhabited 10 000 years.

bookmarking this thread for later

a reply to: dollukka

I hope you share pics soon. Let's uncover history.

Ring pull collection coming your way.

originally posted by: and14263
Ring pull collection coming your way.

Whatever worth 100 bucks or more, for sale and reinvest in gear.

I have been yearning for a detector for many many years and finally for my 50th birthday had a lovely surprise :

A Teknetics EuroteK Pro.

I have already dug up a few "treasures" in my garden which is adjecent to the castle of Chenonceaux in the Loire valley in France and have found an extremely rare "Clavendier" which dates back to about the 14th century and was the ancestor of the modern day key ring.

It was worn on the belt and had chains hanging down from the 3 bottom holes to which keys were attached (usually worn by castle gate keepers or rich property owners apparently).

Here are pics from front and back.





After having done a considerable amount of research over the past couple of years about metal prospecting and finally unboxing my detector I got to work scanning my garden from top to bottom, line by line...

Within minutes of scouring my garden I found 2 bronze rings which I think are part of the Clavendier that is depicted above as they are in the same state of preservation and show no sign of modern day welding.

Here is a pic (I have placed them next to the Clavendier) :



I have not finished prospecting in my garden as I have over 2000m2 so have plenty of time. Not just that but at the moment it is summer time over here and the ground is extremely dry which makes digging a pain in the bottom!

I swear that when I find the third ring I will post the pics here.

Anyway... Yesterday after finishing of the mundane crappy tasks that one does on a Sunday and after sleeping off a copious lunch, Mrs Lags and I decided to pop out onto the field in front of our house and try and find the treasure of our lifetime...

The dectector went off on multiple occasions detecting Iron, (but I ignore Iron as usually it turns up as nuts, bolts, broken tractor parts etc...) But however at one moment Iron was detected over a roughly 15 square metre area...

It turns out after discussing with the landowner that his grandfather had actually buried 2 Citroen traction avant cars there during the Nazi occupation that were used in a restistance attack.

It was too deep to dig but from what other older village people that I know, apparently that was the spot where the cars were buried.

Similar to this one here : www.carandclassic.co.uk...

Anyways... back to the rest of the day...

Nothing fantastic apart from the odd nail, soda can (I hate those!) and shotgun cartridges... until we finally got back to where we started...

And then the detector went off like an air raid siren....

Digging in frenzy like we wanted to go on holiday to Australia tomorrow, we finally came across our first coin "treasure" :

A solid silver coin, '50 centimes" dated 1899. Unfortunately very very used because of intensive labouring of the fields and the acids produced by the chemicals in fertilisers etc over the years...

Sorry for the crap picture but my camera is broken so had to use the phone :



Here is a pic of what it would of looked like in mint condition (Link) : www.comptoir-des-monnaies.com...

If it was in mint condition it would be worth roughly 300 to 150 Euros... sadly this is not the case but still stays part of our first coin treasure and a memorable experience.

Apparently forests and rivers are a great place to hunt because of less acidity causing damage to artifacts (especially around aging trees and old pathways), so shortly we shall be investigating.

Not forgetting also that forest were often used during the "olden" days so to speak by bandits and peasants for hiding valuables etc...)

We also have land not far from where we live that has an old limestone cabin that was used by US GIs during WW2 as a hideout so that will also be on our list...

There you go for the moment... sorry for boring you folks...

Warmest

Lags

a reply to: Lagomorphe

Nice!! The clavendier looks very cool and never say no to free gold. Argh laddie!