An old picture, on the back a description written in cursive-Kids can't read it

a reply to: MysticPearl

Capital Q in cursive is like a big 2

a reply to: MysticPearl

I think they want a generation to rise.....one that thinks the deceleration of independence is in a foreign language. Bad secret language of slave holder masons secret lango and stuff......and stuff.

a reply to: ketsuko

Handwriting yes of course.
Are you promoting a particular cursive style, and if so why?

Grammar has been dumbed down too....no real importance seems to be placed on correct grammar anymore.
My pet peeve is the "bought" and "brought" thing which I only started noticing a couple of years ago with people on facebook....saying stuff like "I brought this on Ebay". How on earth can you possibly mix the 2?

originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: ketsuko

Handwriting yes of course.
Are you promoting a particular cursive style, and if so why?

Why do you ask? Do you think I am?

Are you one of those people who think that if you Google something you have "learned" it?

a reply to: ketsuko

I was just wondering because you appear to support cursive writing to me, of course correct me if I'm wrong.
You didn't answer my question.

originally posted by: Tardacus
so, when people can`t even read the constitution they will have take someone elses word for what it says, what could possibly go wrong with that?

Well then, if that's the argument people want to use (needing to read the script of the original documents) then we should be also be taught to read cuneiform, hieroglyphs (both Demotic and Hieratic) Old and Middle English (everyone should have to read Beowulf in Old English!) Old and Middle Latin, Ancient Greek, etc.

Languages, and scripts, are very fluid. They'll both always change, clinging to an archaic writing system (let's face it, cursive is archaic by today's standards) won't stop that any.

My daughter is a 4th grade home schooled child, we just started teaching her cursive this year. I love having choices.

a reply to: SaturnFX

Pointless?

Not at all. Cursive lends itself to expressing individuality in a controlled manner. As no one signature is the same, so too with cursive writing styles.

Any expression of individuality is a good one.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: SaturnFX

Pointless?

Not at all. Cursive lends itself to expressing individuality in a controlled manner. As no one signature is the same, so too with cursive writing styles.

Any expression of individuality is a good one.

you can express individuality on your own dime. taxes go to schools and time is spent teaching them a pointless way to write that they will pretty much never use in life except to sign something...of which they can express their personality by making their own scribbles, a X, 3 stars, whatever..or just print their name.

a reply to: SaturnFX

So the kids shouldn't be shown that they can be creative?? Really? A well rounded education, within reason, is the hallmark of a well rounded individual, not a sheep in the flock.

You are, of course, welcome to disagree, which you do.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: SaturnFX

So the kids shouldn't be shown that they can be creative?? Really? A well rounded education, within reason, is the hallmark of a well rounded individual, not a sheep in the flock.

You are, of course, welcome to disagree, which you do.

I am not saying ban its teaching, just shove it as an elective, like art class in high school.
It would be a more fruitful education to teach kids a bit of spanish or chinese to open up a greater area of the world than to just teach a old way of writing.

i shall just leave this here :



i believe its supposed to be english - but cannot be certain

a reply to: seasonal

Maybe instead of expecting the guv'mint to do the job, you should teach cursive to your kids yourself..?

a reply to: LS650

the problem with that argument - is that you could subsitute " cursive " with any other element of the curiculum

ie :

Maybe instead of expecting the guv'mint to do the job, you should teach quadratic equations to your kids yourself..?

a reply to: ignorant_ape

Agreed, and star.
Bloody socialist commie tax funded education system!

originally posted by: seasonal
My step father passed, and we had a number of old pictures that we went through and I got take a few home. And by old I mean1920's.

Long story short, there is a long description of who they are and if they had kids. It was written in cursive. My 11 year old picked up one of the large pictures, and this is mounted in an embossed paper holder. On the back is the cursive writing, and the 11 year old has no idea what it says.

Now I never thought much of this being left out of the curriculum. But the more I think about it, the over $10,000 a year that the state of Michigan (tax payer) puts into the education of these kids, maybe they could still teach this.
Cursive is still out there our family's old documents are written in it, our nations founding docs are in it. Is there a good reason that I am not seeing to stop teaching it? Is it truly a dead skill or a skill that some wish was dead?

I think it's something they don't want people to learn, honesty! Why, I don't know, but it's not being taught. A lot is, of course, the push for everything to be digital. Assignments are to be printed, in many cases, not hand-written, and a lot of kids never learn how to write neatly at all. You might have a point regarding the founding documents, too.

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: seasonal

i think i can answer that - time constraints

unless you are going to raise the high school graduation age - or increase the length of the school day - you have a fixed " number of hours " to teach the curriculum

showing my age - i was in the first year to do " computer studies " as a school exam subject - before then whe had a optional computer club at lunch time and 45 min after school - i think my parents had to pay 50 pence / week for me to join

now computers are ubiquitous in schools

That's simply not valid. When I was in school, we spent about the same amount of time as is spent now, for classes, and we learned cursive as a rule. One was expected to know how to write - not print - neatly, an to be able to read it as well. even with different writing styles, we could all read most anything someone else wrote, with very few exceptions. These days, a lot of people cannot even sign their own names! It isn't a matter of not having enough time; it's a matter of too much time wasted on things other than actual education.

a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

did you actually read what i wrote [ ironic in a thread about literacy ] - but my argument was :

there are time constraints and computing // computer use is now taught as a vital skill

and to make time for computer lessons - you have to reduce another subject or extend the school day

what do you think is more important in 2017 - computer literacy or cursive handwriting ?

This is too funny, really, joined up writing is a big deal? I always hated it and it seemed to me that it was counter to the whole point of writing! Writing is about trying to get a message across, what good is that when it's difficult to read? There is a joke in england about "doctors writing". Because typically doctors write joined up and it's usually an illegible mess! When really it should be quite important that their message is clear!

I print everything and it's very simple and clear to read! Nobody is left out from understanding my message! Oh and for some strange reason people tend to say that I am rather intelligent... Meh...

I will say though, as a hobby, why not...