What happened when factory jobs moved from Warren, Ohio, to Juarez, Mexico

a reply to: Tardacus

And what makes it worthy of deserving?

The corps love that thought process. Throw them out of work, and move it to a 3rd world country, it is unskilled.

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: olaru12

What and why do you say that?

Is because there is no connection between price and scarcity?

Perhaps on a local level economy but speculation, excogitation and BS supposition has turned the global economy into a free for all. Actually it's not free. That was just a metaphor. It's a risky game but fun if you have a few bucks to play.

a reply to: seasonal


Its been my experience that the main component in what is happening is GREED of upper management and sales people. They want to eliminate American workers because it means they get a bigger bonus at the end of the year if they reduce operating costs. And its much easier to reduce costs by eliminating workers and offshoring the work to cheap labor countries where they don't have to pay any benefits or a living wage, than it is to increase revenue with more sales. In the mean time they want to take away workers bonuses and overtime and make them work 2X harder and the rewards of their increased workload all go to upper management bonuses. And if you don't like it, they tell you to go work at McDonalds. Nice people. If we want to make America great again, a good start would be to stop selling out our countrymen for the Almighty Dollar.

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a reply to: seasonal

Depends on who you ask. The union, IAM, says they are not ... the workers must disagree.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Good for them, they do NOT need leaches if they are paid fairly and treated fairly.

a reply to: seasonal

I agree. What's your thought on the lawsuit right now about forced union participation for state workers?

a reply to: openminded2011

Yep, yep, and yep.

originally posted by: FHomerK
a reply to: seasonal

This is just about the only thing left that I have any hope at all President Trump will change.

We need to give incentives for companies being here and employing our country, and we need to make it too painful to do otherwise.

Well lets look at the Honda model then. Its all we have really.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I don't know the facts.

It should be up to the person. But there is a herd component to Unions. If they want to have a union, it has to be working for the worker, or it is sh.

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a reply to: Logarock

what is the Honda model?

a reply to: seasonal

I believe the lawsuit is that unions are political groups, and forcing state workers to join is forced support for one political group over another and thus is illegal.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I does sound like it needs to be sorted out.

a reply to: seasonal

I know I'd be pissed to give to a Republican group if I was a Democrat, or a Democrat group if I was a Republican, or either if I was an independent.

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Logarock

what is the Honda model?

Well they make a good deal of stuff here......no unions, a mix of temp and regular employees.

a reply to: Logarock

I have worked at the companies with mix of temps and per staff.

It seems to turn into a 75%+ temp and the perm employees turn into baby sitters.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I find it hard to get excited when someone is R or D or whatever. I want to know how hard the screwing is going to be.

a reply to: seasonal

Not that I think he does but Trump at least has a possibility that he will care about the people. I am not holding my breath though. R and D are 2 sides of the same coin.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Yes they are, and they are concerned about feathering their own nests and re-election $$$.

originally posted by: TruMcCarthy
Warren used to be a really nice city, now it's pretty much a dump. Globalism is really hurting the American worker, which is why Trump is now President. Whether or not he can do anything to fix the problem remains to be seen, though I don't think there's much that can be done against the power of the globalists.

Has anyone really tried, tho?

If anyone has a shot at doing something, it's Trump with the american people behind him.