The strangest Coincidence regarding the Pentagon attack on 9/11

a reply to: Informer1958

Sry if this double posts.

Report showing the effort made to find, catalog, and identify wreckage in the pentagon for what hit the pentagon.

Care to once again state there was no effort to identify the wreckage.

Title: Photos Of Flt 77 Wreckage
Inside The Pentagon
Exclusive Photos & Story
From Sarah Roberts

www.rense.com...


III. Conclusion

Despite the destructive fire that raged inside the impact area on 9/11, pieces of debris were visible on 9/13 and 9/14, and were photographed by recovery workers. These photos clearly show pieces of landing gears, a large turbofan engine, and fuselage. The evidence inside the building is consistent with the evidence of plane wreckage outside -- indicating that a commercial airliner flew into the Pentagon on September 11th.

Your biased views are sad.

a reply to: Informer1958


Because members believe thing like steel tests don't they without checking what the real facts are.

a reply to: mclarenmp4

IIRC A C-130 was in the area/

also more reports here

911research.wtc7.net...

a reply to: neutronflux

And the majority of people think the truth movement is a joke populated by con persons.

Who are the con persons?

a reply to: AnAbsoluteCreation

The punch out hole has always been extremely suspect. Missile do indeed leave punch-out holes and believing that that is a punch out hole made by a 747 is just ridiculous. Imagine stripping all the material from a 747's fuselage leaving you with just the skeleton as i imagine would need to happen in that meat grinder it must have been through at that point.

It would leave you with more space within the tube not less. Now imagine taking that diameter and fill it with all its skin and material we see inside those planes with the carry in luggage spaces and oxygen mask and a kitchen , seats and walking space etc etc that we all know have to fit inside it. How much space would you be left with if you had to fit it all within the diameter of that punch out hole ?

On top of that. Apparently the fuselage came through whole enough to punch through on the other side of the pentagon yet we have never seen a entire fuselage, not even in that picture there and were always told the entire thing was grinded into little pieces (evaporated) that could be picked up by hand.

Or did that fuselage only "evaporated" exactly at the moment it punched through the last wall ...somehow, miraculously. I really don't care how much of a staunch believer of the original story anyone is. All this simply does not fit , no pun intended.

EDIT: i agree it is much more akin of a missile and great job at the finding you made there iam gonna look some more into that thank you

a reply to: wmd_2008

Again, no credible sources. Photos can be manipulated, or taken from other crash scene.

Can you prove these photos are not from a bone yard?

a reply to: neutronflux

Rense.com

How interesting that you use a bias website that only supports the OS narrative as your sources. Ironic isn't.

a reply to: AnAbsoluteCreation

Was it not also confirmed that marine vessels capable of launching such hardware were in the waters that day near new york? I remember reading about it and seeing video of it here on ATS and elsewere but its been a while and seems hard to find atm.

a reply to: wmd_2008

Because members believe thing like steel tests don't they without checking what the real facts are

The Topic is about the Pentagon, not what you believe about other members.

a reply to: everyone

Hole in C Ring wall was left by piece of landing gear

The landing gear is one of the strongest things on the aircraft - it must be able to resist being slammed into
the runway at speeds above 150 mph thousands of times

www.911myths.com...

www.curezone.org...

911research.wtc7.net...

a reply to: firerescue

The landing gear is one of the strongest things on the aircraft - it must be able to resist being slammed into
the runway at speeds above 150 mph thousands of times

911 myths.com, seriously do you really believe we all have IQ's below 70?

Sorry, but I have to kindly disagree with your "opinions" and your sources.

originally posted by: Informer1958
a reply to: neutronflux

Rense.com

How interesting that you use a bias website that only supports the OS narrative as your sources. Ironic isn't.

that's exactly why WMD went with just posting the sections from the website instead of providing the link.

he knew exactly what the rebuttal would be if he simply posted the source to his information.

that says all it needs to say in and of itself.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: facedye

And the majority of people think the truth movement is a joke populated by con persons.

that's all you got? that's your best rebuttal?

pathetic, eye opening, and small.

EDIT:

how's this for a con artist?

originally posted by: firerescue
a reply to: everyone

Hole in C Ring wall was left by piece of landing gear

The landing gear is one of the strongest things on the aircraft - it must be able to resist being slammed into
the runway at speeds above 150 mph thousands of times

www.911myths.com...

www.curezone.org...

911research.wtc7.net...

LOL, what are these sources?!

for anybody who wants to give this comment any sort of credit whatsoever, please take a look at what his sources look like:



CureZone



9/11 Myths Pic NO LONGER CITED



9/11 Myths Page Not Found

so uhh.. i don't mean to 'jump the gun' or anything but.. it looks like you just exposed yourself.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: AnAbsoluteCreation

The two weakest parts of your fantasy?

One: Why not have evil HALLIBURTON make a missle instead of a naval op to steel a Russian missle.

Two: probably be easily, more cost effective, and more secretive to give Halliburton a tomahawk missle and a special op's boat than conducting a full blown sea salvage mission to steel a Russian missile from under the Russian noses.

Actually, solid points. It's gotta be much easier to get a missile from some cooperative defense contractor or underground arms dealers than steal from Russians in a high profile sub disaster.

a reply to: Informer1958


How about the Jones thermite paper that was presented as peer reviewed and totally bypassed the referee. The journal that was in charge of the peer review was caught for pay to play. If I remember right, Some material in Jones paper was supplied by a colleague that become one of the peer reviewers.

Wood and Dustification.

The one or two people with the false claim Flight 93 emitted an ACARS broadcast after flight 93's crash.

People that claim there was no WTC steel inspection when there are videos of investigators picking out steel columns for analysis, video of investigators cutting columns for metallurgical analysis, WTC metallurgical reports, reports on WTC welds, and reports on the failure of WTC floor connections.

People that claim there was no effort to obtain evidence from the WTC. By the way, are you the one that claimed the government does not have a magic DNA sniffing device, and made unfounded allegations the 19,000 pieces of human victims recovered was a fabrication. People that don't take the time to see the videos, documentaries, and logging of the recovered remains, logging of recovered personal effects, and the logging of recovered evidence through hand searching ground zero and the debris shipped to the staging areas.

People making the claims of thermite, bombs, nuke bombs, lasers, missiles, and holograms.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Informer1958


How about the Jones thermite paper that was presented as peer reviewed and totally bypassed the referee. The journal that was in charge of the peer review was caught for pay to play. If I remember right, Some material in Jones paper was supplied by a colleague that become one of the peer reviewers.

Wood and Dustification.

The one or two people with the false claim Flight 93 emitted an ACARS broadcast after flight 93's crash.

People that claim there was no WTC steel inspection when there are videos of investigators picking out steel columns for analysis, video of investigators cutting columns for metallurgical analysis, WTC metallurgical reports, reports on WTC welds, and reports on the failure of WTC floor connections.

People that claim there was no effort to obtain evidence from the WTC. By the way, are you the one that claimed the government does not have a magic DNA sniffing device, and made unfounded allegations the 19,000 pieces of human victims recovered was a fabrication. People that don't take the time to see the videos, documentaries, and logging of the recovered remains, logging of recovered personal effects, and the logging of recovered evidence through hand searching ground zero and the debris shipped to the staging areas.

People making the claims of thermite, bombs, nuke bombs, lasers, missiles, and holograms.

wow, looks like you went totally nuclear.

provide one reliable source for any of the supposed facts you're talking about above.

just one. i'd be happy for you to cite everything you just said, but something tells me that won't happen. seriously, i'd love to see it.

this is ATS, friend, and this is also not your first rodeo with us. put your money where your mouth is and cite as much as you'd like. i'm holding my breath.

a reply to: AnAbsoluteCreation

P-700 Granite Missiles do not have landing gear and wheel housings.
Unless, of course, you think someone threw those in the building....

a reply to: neutronflux

People making the claims of thermite, bombs, nuke bombs, lasers, missiles, and holograms.

What does anything you are claiming have to do with the OP?

In case you forgot the topic is:

The strangest Coincidence regarding the Pentagon attack on 9/11

How is your "opinion" about members who do not support the OS narratives have anything do with said topic?

You keep expressing your "opinions" that the OS narratives are true about the Pentagon attacks, yet you cannot substantiate your claims, except to continue to bring up old debunk lasers, and holograms in ridiculing none believers of the OS narratives. Sounds very juvenile to me.

Care to explain why the American people should believe a Boeing crashed into the Pentagon when the only physical evidence was a few second video that showed nothing and some airplane parts photos taken from God knows where?

Furthermore, many experts in aviation have examined these alleged photos and risk their reputations and careers that said airplanes parts do not match alleged plane including engine parts.

What is your evidence that they are wrong?

a reply to: Informer1958

You still stand by there was no identifiable jet wreckage inside the pentagon and no effort to identify the wreckage?

www.rense.com...
www.aerospaceweb.org...

www.aerospaceweb.org...

Comparison of the Pentagon wreckage to a Boeing 757-200 main gear wheel

This investigation indicates that the only wheel matching that found at the Pentagon is the main gear wheel of a Boeing 757-200, the same model as American Airlines Flight 77. The key features of the wreckage--including the number, size, and shape of the cutouts and bolt attachments--perfectly match those found in a main landing gear wheel of a Boeing 757-200, as illustrated in the above comparison. None of the wheels of the Global Hyawk, A-3, or 737 match the debris, which is not surprising since all of these aircraft weigh considerably less than the 757 and use correspondingly smaller wheels of differing design.