Leaked Emails: Dem State Leaders Think Obama’s New Organizing Army is ‘Grade A Bullsnip’

a reply to: ketsuko

There are a few articles and videos saying they are a 30,000 to 32,000+ strong army with 250 offices across the country... ..The problem with some of these reports they are not so outlandish that you will dismiss off hand.......... knowing what happened to Bernie and the press every time Trump says have a nice day MSN twist it into he said go to hell. ...
Just A FEW of several videos. Maybe over the top and totally wrong...maybe not... I have heard that there are going to be some big things happen as far as protest come the spring and better weather.. Sorry to see some of this stupid stuff going down..not to mention the rumors which seem to feed some's darkest fears.
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a reply to: ketsuko
Random, but let's just say my bosses are heavily affiliated with OFA. I'm not a shill, I happen to work with former Obama campaign people.

a reply to: theantediluvian

I would think having an organized effort separate from the RNC establishment makes sense for Trump considering the opposition he's been getting from them.

But after recent defeats, it would seem counterproductive for the democrats to be splitting resources between two groups with apparently no unity of effort or even communication.

Just doesn't make any sense on the face of it.

originally posted by: Byrd
a reply to: ketsuko

The article link is 404.

Here's the correct link:

Leaked Emails: Dem State Leaders Think Obama’s New Organizing Army is ‘Grade A Bull#’

a reply to: Boadicea

Your link is 404rd

a reply to: ketsuko

Excellent post, Ketsuko!

I'm very glad this came out -- and I hope it's just the beginning. There's a struggle going on within the Democrat party. I think I've previously characterized it as Team Clinton vs Team Obama... although they are just the face of each. More like Team Banksters vs. Team Caliphate (though I could be wrong about those particulars too).

Remember the Women's March with the kitty hats... yeah, I know that's not what they were actually called, but I'm not going there... Hillary was completely snubbed by the march and by the Muslim woman calling the shots... Even going back to the Podesta email leaks, there was some brouhaha over Chelsea Clinton "investigating" some kind of wrongdoing within the Clinton Foundation,

Think about Flynn and the national security leaks and their "coup" and remember who was in charge at the CIA (thanks, Obama) and who threatened Trump: the Muslim convert John Brennan...

And there's so much more! If I had the time, I'd write a thread just to get all the information into one place for my own reference...

I don't think the average Democrat voter has any idea what's going on behind the scenes; although I'm sure many/most of the politically active know something's going on -- as this leaked email would attest. I'm pretty sure Obama et al is quite happy for Hillary to continue to get the attention/blame while he whistles along in the shadows.

Things are going to get interesting! My best guess at this point is that Team Obama has something on Hillary which is keeping her pretty much muzzled for now... probably why no emails to or from Hillary were released in the Podesta email dump... but Clinton has been around the block a few times, and she has her own resources. I'm betting she's just biding her time to beat Obama at his own game. Or try anyway. A blessing in disguise for us. We can't trust Hillary either, but as long as they're fighting each other and thwarting each other's dirty deeds, we all benefit.

Here is a link that discusses this:

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I did find it somewhat odd that Obama bought a house in DC. Unlike most Presidents who mostly disappear from the public scene for the most part.

originally posted by: the2ofusr1
a reply to: Boadicea

Your link is 404rd

That's crazy... I still have the tab open!!! The article comes up if you copy and paste the link into the address bar but not if you click on the embedded link... freaking crazy!

Here's the full link with spaces:

http ://www . thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/02/17/leaked-emails-dem-state-leaders-think-obama-s-new-organizing-army-is-grade-a-bull# . html

The article is also still listed on the "politics" page of the website about 1/3 of the way down the page.

a reply to: Byrd

Sorry, I forgot the ATS site automatically edits the link because it has a profanity in it thanks to the headline which has profanity. It had the word bullsnip in it.

www.thedailybeast.com...bullsnip.html

Use the following link and change the bolded profanity back to the profanity I've altered and you should get right there. At least the proper link is the top suggestion in my browser. It's at the Daily Beast.

originally posted by: seagull

I did find it somewhat odd that Obama bought a house in DC. Unlike most Presidents who mostly disappear from the public scene for the most part.

Just to clarify, Obama didn't buy the house, it's a lease, and they are staying because they didn't want to move their youngest daughter until she finishes her last two years of high school. Now, will they stay in DC after that, I don't know.

www.nytimes.com...

a reply to: Boadicea

Yeah, it does that. It's the profanity filter. The link has profanity in it and it works even there. I had a problem with it once before on this site. One of the mods was kind enough to fix it then so it worked direct. But it shouldn't be an issue if every one is aware of what exactly the problem is.

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
a reply to: ketsuko
Random, but let's just say my bosses are heavily affiliated with OFA. I'm not a shill, I happen to work with former Obama campaign people.

The questions I have with it aren't that OFA exists, but my questions are ... if this was a strictly political campaign movement, why did it seem to disappear off the radar of everyone for the entire time Obama was in office without disbanding and during that time infiltrate into all the states without working with the existing Democrat party apparatus but seemingly using their existing networks and resources.

It seems like OFA represented themselves as other than they were, weakened and/or doomed the party while they were at it, and is now coming back out of the shadows not to try to get political power in an election sense but in a violent protest/force sense.

That's an entirely different and frankly less than democratic republican model than what the country was founded around.

It looks shady.

If you do, hypothetically, work within that organization. I'd love to get your explanation.

a reply to: ketsuko

It seems like OFA represented themselves as other than they were, weakened and/or doomed the party while they were at it, and is now coming back out of the shadows not to try to get political power in an election sense but in a violent protest/force sense. That's an entirely different and frankly less than democratic republican model than what the country was founded around. It looks shady.

What I found a bit strange while reading www.opensecrets.org... was what was missing .I don't think that Hillary is mentioned once .There seems to be some very heavy donors that must have a big money tree in the back yard because of a lack of public knowledge as to where their money comes from . self employed with no qualifiers or unemployed . This is the break down of the long donor list with locations amounts www.opensecrets.org...

a reply to: the2ofusr1

I sure like how unemployed people are able to donate thousands of dollars to it.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Boadicea

Yeah, it does that. It's the profanity filter.

Ahhhhh.... that would do it! Didn't even notice that either -- d'oh!

Thanks for the schooling

a reply to: ketsuko

Obama's OFA army of useful idiots will only stir up more violence and piss people off, so it is a guarantee victory for Trump in 2020. Violence is never the solution. The useful idiots are turning Trump into the victim.

a reply to: kaylaluv

OK, lease.

The point being, he's living in DC. For what reason, I don't know. Staying in DC so his daughter can finish school is extraordinarily likely.

That is odd in comparison to most, if not all, his predecessors. Most of whom flee.

originally posted by: spirit_horse

originally posted by: GreyScale
Because theantediluvian is still in the closet about it's true feelings about Trump. I mean, look at it's posting history... it's a whole thesis about self-denial. An interesting read though!

That is hilarious! Perhaps we should have a coming out party! Rotflmao!!!

Haha I told him that the other day that he and trump have too much pent up tension so they should just @#$% and get it over with. Problem is all the libs and every American darker than white or under 28 are just as blind when it comes to these issues and never learned in this new education system where kids no longer learn facts and processes but instead that ther e are no wrong answers and the only important thing to learn is how to access what you FEEL about the material so they have no capacity to be wrong, to point fingers at their own side, or to say or do anything that might hurt another's feelings or go against his or her beliefs....IF that person believes the exact same things that is. Those with alternate beliefs are sub- humans worthy of nothing but death by the millions in their eyes