Ford sticks with plan to open two plants in Mexico

a reply to: purplemer

Bro, or braw,

The reason the corps are moving into the 3rd world countries is to exploit labor, the environment and to skirt tax laws.

Do you think the price of the car is going to be cheaper? Or do you think the corp will be more profitable?

If there are no protections the corps will continue to export jobs and import products.

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: Ohanka

Dudes this is just plain daft and imposing a tax on yourselves...

Eighty percent increase...?

So the car that costs 10,000 dollars now cost 18,000 and how exactly is that going to help the average American..

Well either they build it in America, or they don't sell anything. Simple really.

unrelated but i've always been against corporations passing their taxes onto the customer. Not much you can do about that other than price controls, and those generally end badly.

a reply to: purplemer

If U.S companies knew their goods would be more expensive coming back into the U.S., maybe they wouldn't leave? Or maybe other U.S. companies would be more competitive and take over for those leaving? Why should jobs be in the U.S.? Because we are U.S. citizens and want to see our country prosperous? Is that an evil thought process to you? I guess we should just accept the decline in our wages and life, you know, because the rest of the world sucks too. Give the multinational companies everything they want, and take everything from the American people, why not, eh?

a reply to: AMPTAH

One word 7.62 X 51mm.

a reply to: seasonal

The reason the corps are moving into the 3rd world countries is to exploit labor, the environment and to skirt tax laws. Do you think the price of the car is going to be cheaper? Or do you think the corp will be more profitable? If there are no protections the corps will continue to export jobs and import products.

Im not sure i would guess a bit of both.. Cheaper to make and more profitable.. These laws suck they are world trade agrements and they are put there is place for a reason. I dont like them either its called capilitism.

Here in the UK we have a National Heath Service Stretched to capacity. The same drugs bought over here are 200 times cheaper in India..

It is all day light robbery and needs to be sorted out.

a reply to: purplemer

Bro-ham,
So you think a tariff is going to raise the price? Is cheap labor-cheap environmental controls-cheap taxes, going to lower the cost of the cars?

EDIT; How is it working the way it is? Could the reason your health system is in such piss poor shape because of the lack of high paying jobs-tax base receding?

a reply to: TruMcCarthy

BOOM-the truth.

a reply to: purplemer

I have to say I am on the side of paying more for the product and having a job that is considered good.

If you are good with the way things have gone over the last 36 years, hold on.

originally posted by: Ohanka
Well either they build it in America, or they don't sell anything. Simple really.

Americans just have to decide which they prefer to have, the "jobs" or the "profits".

There are Japanese companies that build cars in the US. That gives the US jobs, but the profits go back to Japan.

There are US companies that build cars in Mexico and Canada, that gives those NAFTA countries jobs, but the profits come back to the US.

If you force any company to attempt to locate both jobs and profits in the same environment, then that co can't compete with other companies from other nations that are free to move their factories to maximize profit.

So, then you'll have to add lots of tariffs on all these foreign companies to "protect" your local industry. And that leads us all into a trade war of retaliation and tit for tat.

a reply to: TruMcCarthy

Yes maybe they would come back to the US. Of course you want to see your country prosper I think that is a shared human value world wide. There is nothing evil about it.

Do you not ask youself where the 20 trillion or so deficit has come from. Do yo ask why most of the money is in the hands of less than one percent. Do you not think sorting out this wealth disparity issue would help easy some of the financial problems you are having..

a reply to: AMPTAH

The US did have tariffs in the past. Looks like it was stopped after WW I. I wonder why?

a reply to: AMPTAH

As a worker, I would prefer jobs, that way I can pay for what I want. If I was a taker, I guess profits, that way the government could provide for me. But as we all know, the free-rider problem is much worse than the worker "problem" lol. Too many takers, not enough workers, lazy people hurt us all, we shouldn't champion them.

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: seasonal

2 factories are coming on line in Mexico this year that will supply engines and trannys to the US. With 3,800 employees and costing $2.5 billion I wonder if Trump is going to put any tariffs on these parts?

Who pays the tarrifs.. Those that buy the vehicles..?

People will buy something else, make imports more expensive so you have to buy American

a reply to: purplemer
Wealth inequality is a problem.

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: purplemer
Wealth inequality is a problem.

yes i agree.. these are real problems facing the modern world, we need politicians that can sort this kind of thing out. maybe one day..

Ford is already the cheapest out there. It is their bread and butter.
They sell on cheap. No one buys Ford that has money and wants quality.
I was already burned by their $45k Superduty.
Frame rusted in months, transmission dropped in 24k miles.
Never again will I buy another
Found On the Road Dead


Now, with new trucks selling at $80,000, it is about time for a crash in the industry.

Tax payer bailout to the industry, then double your prices to those taxpayers?

Real cool Ford, real cool

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: markosity1973

Liberals are generally anti gun.

Never underestimate a polarised side of any conflict.

Now I don't know how that will fold into a make believe civil war.

All it took in Syria was one Mufti to go on TV and make a hate speech and call to arms for that war to start. Then outsiders interfered and then the Army started defecting and it snowballed.

Never say it could never happen in the USA. You have a Russian spy ship trolling off your coast as it already stands.......

originally posted by: Mandroid7
Ford is already the cheapest out there. It is their bread and butter.
They sell on cheap. No one buys Ford that has money and wants quality.
I was already burned by their $45k Superduty.
Frame rusted in months, transmission dropped in 24k miles.
Never again will I buy another
Found On the Road Dead

I've never owned Ford or GM, I hate them both in equal measure. Both brands are prone to faults that you just have to 'accept' as part of ownership.

Moving manufacturing to Mexico and places like China only reinforces the second rate brand ethic they stand for IMO

originally posted by: Mandroid7

Never again will I buy another
Found On the Road Dead


:

I've known of... FORD = Fix Or Repair Daily. But never, Found On the Road Dead. Good one!

My wife used to own a Ford Tempo DIESEL. Great mileage, but only 52 horsepower. When it got cold, you had to raise the hood and press a big plunger to pull the fuel up to the spark plugs before it would turn over. But gas had just exploded to over $1.00 a gallon then, so the inconvenience of using cheaper Diesel fuel was worth it.

I drove a '96 Ford Probe for about 10 years, it worked pretty well for me, after this news though, I will be sure to let Ford know they will no longer receive my business. Buy American, Hire American!