Georgetown Islamic Studies Professor: Slavery OK, So is Non-Consensual Sex

originally posted by: Xenogears

originally posted by: rnaa

The fact is that Sharia Law stipulates that followers MUST FOLLOW THE LAW OF THE LAND THAT THEY LIVE IN.

Sharia law does NOT trump domestic law any more than Judeo-Christian law does. It just doesn't.

So you claim, that many do not want sharia to be the law of the land? That no go ghettos and separate sharia court systems do not exist in parts of Europe?

If a no go ghetto forms in the U.S. as a result of mass uncontrolled immigration and if those within decide they want their own separate sharia courts, the cops won't go into a no go ghetto. In a politically correct climate, military force will not be invoked to bring law and order. It will be lawless as regards US laws, all that will reign in a no go ghetto is the law they want to follow.

It can't exist regardless of if it does in Europe. A religion does not get to change the laws. Sharia is illegal in the US. Get over it, they just tell you that to scare you and further religious hatred.

originally posted by: damwel

originally posted by: Xenogears

originally posted by: rnaa

The fact is that Sharia Law stipulates that followers MUST FOLLOW THE LAW OF THE LAND THAT THEY LIVE IN.

Sharia law does NOT trump domestic law any more than Judeo-Christian law does. It just doesn't.

So you claim, that many do not want sharia to be the law of the land? That no go ghettos and separate sharia court systems do not exist in parts of Europe?

If a no go ghetto forms in the U.S. as a result of mass uncontrolled immigration and if those within decide they want their own separate sharia courts, the cops won't go into a no go ghetto. In a politically correct climate, military force will not be invoked to bring law and order. It will be lawless as regards US laws, all that will reign in a no go ghetto is the law they want to follow.

It can't exist regardless of if it does in Europe. A religion does not get to change the laws. Sharia is illegal in the US. Get over it, they just tell you that to scare you and further religious hatred.

So you claim that within the U.S no go zones do not exist and cannot exist?

I'm pretty sure there are areas RIGHT now, totally unrelated to the migrant issue, that are barely policed(due to say gang control and corruption).

The only way to stop a no go zone from happening would be indefinite militarization of any zone that was created. You can see that that is not financially sustainable if we're talking millions upon millions of immigrants creating countless zones, it would be like occupying a foreign country indefinitely.

originally posted by: damwel
The Bible lays out all the rules for slavery. Look it up.

And many say, many who can be considered christians, that Jesus means the old testament is basically null and void. Those who do not agree, obviously are not following the old testament, they're not stoning people as I hear happens in certain countries, in several islamic countries by both legal support and majority support, iirc based on religious texts.

They will never abolish barbaric things like lashings, unless they ignore the texts, which as final divine word and absolute truth cannot be questioned and surpass any modern political idea. Islam is not just a religion but a political ideology, it has consequences regards governance, at least by the belief of many who want sharia to be their law.

Punishments

Punishments described in the Koran are as if said by God himself, they cannot be questioned, they cannot be ignored or modernized or changed. The Koran supersedes the state, it supersedes democracy, it supersedes all to the believer, it is eternal, unerring and never to be questioned or updated or changed or modernized. It would be like if Jesus has said slavery was ok, and wanted by god, and as god his command as acceptable. Either Christianity would have been basically abandoned, or slavery would have never come to an end in christian nations.


IF the muslim world modernizes, and sees the Koran as man made and ignorable in part or in whole, as happens in judaism with some with what are called atheist jews, then from the perspective of today's muslims these would not be real muslims, they would be apostates, and real muslims, from their perspective, would be a minority or would be no more in such a future world. It would be the end of islam, people would be muslim in name only but the actual faith would have come to an end.

a reply to: flyingdutchman2112

I do love hippie chicks though. Lol. Js.

a reply to: jellyrev

I'm saying that if you do not have the balls to stand up for something important or that you believe in, it's easier to complain from your Mama's basement than it is to back your # up. Dude was complaining and using a blanket assumption. You know what they say about assuming, right? My reply to him was mostly sarcasm. I'm fluent in sarcasm.