Eyes Open: Sean Spicer FALSELY Says Atlanta Hit By Islamic Terrorist Attack

a reply to: Sublimecraft

a reply to: Abysha

You need to go back and rethink your statement. While any group is capable of having a radical element, here are a few truths that poke innumerable holes in your logic. ., .
1. The First Amendment provides freedom of religion
2. The 4th Amendment protects against unreasonable searches and seizures, which would be the only SUREFIRE way to ferret out any and all malcontents intent on doing harm WITHIN our borders.
3. The Constitution does NOT provide ANY means for deporting natural born citizens. Once they are born on US soil we are stuck with them, for better or for worse.
4. The Constitution DOES give the Federal government authority to make any immigration laws they choose.
5. Those laws give President authority in certain situations to make EOs pertaining to those issues.

originally posted by: Arizonaguy
a reply to: Abysha

You need to go back and rethink your statement. While any group is capable of having a radical element, here are a few truths that poke innumerable holes in your logic. ., .
1. The First Amendment provides freedom of religion
2. The 4th Amendment protects against unreasonable searches and seizures, which would be the only SUREFIRE way to ferret out any and all malcontents intent on doing harm WITHIN our borders.
3. The Constitution does NOT provide ANY means for deporting natural born citizens. Once they are born on US soil we are stuck with them, for better or for worse.
4. The Constitution DOES give the Federal government authority to make any immigration laws they choose.
5. Those laws give President authority in certain situations to make EOs pertaining to those issues.

Did you really think I was suggesting we deport American Christians? Really?

a reply to: Mizzijr

From what I understand, the comments he made were in the context of the ban.

That would not have anything to do with Atlanta.

Here is a video worth watching. He specifically mentions foreigners that left the country and came back.

a reply to: Abysha

No. I know exactly what you did. You presented a false argument that President Trump uses logic that would cause the persecution of Christians if it were applied the same way as he presently uses it. Note the false before argument.

originally posted by: BlueAjah
a reply to: Mizzijr

2002.09.21 USA Atlanta, GA 1 0 Muslim terrorists gun down an employee at a liquor store.

2000.03.17 USA Atlanta, GA 1 1 A local imam and Muslim spiritual leader guns down a deputy sheriff and injures his partner.

www.thereligionofpeace.com...

Here's another list to add to that site.

Big List

Goes back further.

Trump critics are playing with fire.

All this stuff is on record, and what they have done to Spicer and Conway.

When the next terrorist attack happens.

They will be running for their lives.

People will be so furious.

originally posted by: Arizonaguy
a reply to: Abysha

No. I know exactly what you did. You presented a false argument that President Trump uses logic that would cause the persecution of Christians if it were applied the same way as he presently uses it. Note the false before argument.

Oh my word, I know it's a ridiculous suggestion which is why I compared it to the other ridiculous suggestion of the current travel ban Trump's trying to ram through.

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: Sublimecraft

You beat me to it.

a reply to: Chadwickus

mm yes thanks for that.

What he said was wrong, but he never said islamic terror.. He said left the country and came back.

I'm pretty sure that refers to the boston bombing. It's too much for me to remember every damn thing though.


He needs to correct what he is saying in some way.. OR speak much more clearly in the future.

a reply to: Abysha

But it's not a ridiculous suggestion ( the travel moratorium) . The only people who believe it is are people that put their 'feels" before logic.

So he got his terrorists mixed up. No problem. I have seen lots of speeches over the years that had facts that weren't exactly right. Nobody even realized it years ago when they did this, there was no internet. I heard things in speeches of the presidents that did not seem as I remembered them, but I had no way to check if I was right or the speech was right.

No big deal, Obama made some mistakes as did some of the press secretaries in the past. I'm not defending trump on this or his secretary, I am just saying things like that happened occasionally in the past, who pays attention to these speeches anyway, they will drive people insane.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Mizzijr

From what I understand, the comments he made were in the context of the ban.

That would not have anything to do with Atlanta.

Here is a video worth watching. He specifically mentions foreigners that left the country and came back.

Thats what it sounds like but to be honest, we need to see the original footage. I'm thinking he said "come back"... to something. But they unfortunately cut him off in the sound bite. It's clear he didn't refer to the attack as islamic but the context indicates that's what he could have meant.

originally posted by: Arizonaguy
a reply to: Abysha

But it's not a ridiculous suggestion ( the travel moratorium) . The only people who believe it is are people that put their 'feels" before logic.

Actually, if you watch the video Chad posted you can see Spicer using an appeal to emotion as a major piece of his argument.

Does that mean his "feels" come before logic?

originally posted by: Arizonaguy
a reply to: Abysha

But it's not a ridiculous suggestion ( the travel moratorium) . The only people who believe it is are people that put their 'feels" before logic.

Obama did the same damn thing.

I wish everyone would hear a news story aad then go wait a minute lets look into this and then decide what I think.
You can't listen to these people.

In this case for instance Spicer got it wrong and the news reporting on him got it wrong too.

So you have to find the data on your own.

a reply to: Mizzijr

I can't find anything that suggests Eric Rudolph went to a foreign country and came back to commit his acts.

Can you?

a reply to: Reverbs

He needs to clarify what terrorist attack in Atlanta he is refering to, first and foremost.

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: Reverbs

He needs to clarify what terrorist attack in Atlanta he is refering to, first and foremost.

agreed.

a reply to: rickymouse

who pays attention to these speeches anyway

People that care about the truth. That's why we do what we do, right?

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Mizzijr

I can't find anything that suggests Eric Rudolph went to a foreign country and came back to commit his acts.

Can you?

No I'm pretty sure that did not happen but I havn't looked super deep into it. I was 10 when it happened so my memory is fuzzy.
And isn't that kind of an issue it was 21 years ago.

IS that what he's talking about?

Or where was the nightclub shooting?

Orlando.

That's probably it right?
that's where I'd place my bet.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Mizzijr

I can't find anything that suggests Eric Rudolph went to a foreign country and came back to commit his acts.

Can you?

Nah. I caught a lot of hell so I didn't say nothing about it.