Iran threatens to fire 'roaring missiles' at 'enemies' after Donald Trump Twitter spat

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Russia can be bought off by throwing it a bit more of eastern Europe.

That is not within the Presidents gift , the US is a big part of NATO but it is not NATO in itself.
Such a deal would be political suicide.

a reply to: Profusion

What if Russia decided that since there's no hope of the United States' sanctions ending, it's time to take on the United Sates now.

We don't know what Trump will do in regard to Russian sanctions , I believe he will lift some sanctions at least but until he announces it on twitter we can but wait.


a reply to: CulturalResilience

Israel has not sought to build consensus for military action in the past from the US or the UN.

Not directly perhaps but they have tried to cast Iran as an imminent threat , remember this priceless Bibi performance at the UN ?


I don't doubt Israel would like to take on Iran but even Bibi knows he would need the US in his back pocket to do it , without a UN resolution it would again be political suicide and there will be no chance of a resolution if one was sought.
Iran has a strong military , this would not be another Iraq.

a reply to: Profusion

This is a very serious escalation, and it's already beyond saber-ratting. The next few days should be interesting.

Very seriously, the Irabians know what time it is. If the World Bank, Imf and US "AID" have their way, they're next in a long line of destabiliz-- I mean democratizations.

a reply to: gortex

Not directly perhaps but they have tried to cast Iran as an imminent threat , remember this priceless Bibi performance at the UN ?

Who can forget it, lol? I bet he wish he could, also. The world will never take him serious again. Notice he's no longer in the limelight?

Woe is Israel.

a reply to: intrptr

Won't happen, sounds just like North Korea's 2 missles that are pointing at the U.S., that we don't even know work nor the payload. I'm more worried about Trump and China then Iran. Now Isreal and Iran that's a different story.

a reply to: Profusion

Iran is making a big mistake. Like little boys in a schoolyard. Al they will do in actions like these is guarantee a future of their own continued government oppression of their own people, and many families will suffer for it. Look at what that same exact behavior by North Korea and that retard they call a leader has done to his own country for an example.

And Russia will only give token support, but in the end, Iran will not come out of a continued behavior like this in any good fashion. This will only punish the citizens of Iran. If Russia and anyone else helps leaders like Iran's leader, it will only guarantee the future suffering of those they are posturing to help, so they really won't be helping anyone. This is the reality of the situation, and it is has been repeated in this same joke of a fashion for thousands of years.

a reply to: CulturalResilience

Israel has not sought to build consensus for military action in the past from the US or the UN.

Not directly perhaps but they have tried to cast Iran as an imminent threat , remember this priceless Bibi performance at the UN ?






Your quite right in the instance you site, but my point was that Israel will take action without consensus, as the Iraqis found out when they, like Iran, engaged in a programme of uranium enrichment for "peaceful" purposes.

originally posted by: lighter78
a reply to: intrptr

Won't happen, sounds just like North Korea's 2 missles that are pointing at the U.S., that we don't even know work nor the payload. I'm more worried about Trump and China then Iran. Now Isreal and Iran that's a different story.

"Won't happen" doesn't mean they wont stop trying. They roasted Syrians over the spit for years now, insensitive to the terror they cause.

The rest of the world sees this clear enough. People outside the reach of western propaganda know who is behind the chaos.

Be more concerned about NATOs 'efforts' than "Trump, China" or Bibi.

a reply to: intrptr

I agree with what you said here, in any case it isn't going to be pretty!

originally posted by: Arnie123
Sensationalist article.

Nothing won't happen. The formula is pretty easy to follow and you seem to fall for it.

Move along peeps.

I admire your optimism and would like to think it is not misplaced.

a reply to: CulturalResilience

but my point was that Israel will take action without consensus, as the Iraqis found out when they, like Iran, engaged in a program of uranium enrichment for "peaceful" purposes.

When have they 'taken action' without permission?

They work hand in hand wth the west to make the ME over into 'their image'. Every single time the Israelis 'act' the west feigns surprise as if they didn't know (and didn't provide intel, surveillance, support, etc).

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: CulturalResilience

but my point was that Israel will take action without consensus, as the Iraqis found out when they, like Iran, engaged in a program of uranium enrichment for "peaceful" purposes.

When have they 'taken action' without permission?

They work hand in hand wth the west to make the ME over into 'their image'. Every single time the Israelis 'act' the west feigns surprise as if they didn't know (and didn't provide intel, surveillance, support, etc).

I did not suggest Israel had ever sought permission for anything. The term I used was consensus and I was referring specifically to Operation Opera (also known as Operation Babylon). Iran itself took action against the Iraqi nuclear power programme during that time.

Keep up the great work Trump! This should really restore the faith and spirit of America.

Persia once had a mighty God King in Xerxes. Is it now time for the Persians to embrace a God Emperor as their ruler? The continued security of our precious bodily fluids is well worth the cost but General Ripper... I mean Mattis needs to make sure Trump doesn't let the Russians see the big board. It would be an absolute disaster if the Russians were allowed to see the big board. I don't think I can stress that enough. The only thing worse would be fighting in the war room!

originally posted by: CulturalResilience

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: CulturalResilience

but my point was that Israel will take action without consensus, as the Iraqis found out when they, like Iran, engaged in a program of uranium enrichment for "peaceful" purposes.

When have they 'taken action' without permission?

They work hand in hand wth the west to make the ME over into 'their image'. Every single time the Israelis 'act' the west feigns surprise as if they didn't know (and didn't provide intel, surveillance, support, etc).

I did not suggest Israel had ever sought permission for anything. The term I used was consensus and I was referring specifically to Operation Opera (also known as Operation Babylon). Iran itself took action against the Iraqi nuclear power program during that time.

Yah right, now switch over. You are referring to operation OPERA; Aka, Operation Babylon, the bombing raid by american built jets and american built bunker busters on Iraqs not yet operational reactor.

As if they didn't work together on the mission, all down the line. Or over the decades to steal the countries resources, behead the gubment and millions of Iraqi people. Ongoing...

What, who us?

Sounds like Iran is testing Trump to see if he has any teeth...

We shall see how this pans out

a reply to: Azure

They don't need to see the 'big board' ala Strangelove, the "toe to toe Rooskies" know where every western asset is. Except the boomers, maybe. Likewise, we can't account for all theirs either. Or their ground based mobile ICBM launchers, for that matter.

MAD's in effect above the din.

Ah, those damn Iranians are part of the axis of evil, old George Dubya warned us about.

A war with Iran has been brewing since the revolution there in the 1970's.

Yet, it's the Saudis that want to bring terror to the U.S and the western world. However, the petrodollar is too precious to lose and so the same old rhetoric is regurgitated.

So Trump triggered Iran with some tweets.

hahahahahahaha

Iranian snowflakes get hurt feefee's.

hahahahahahahahaha

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: CulturalResilience

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: CulturalResilience

but my point was that Israel will take action without consensus, as the Iraqis found out when they, like Iran, engaged in a program of uranium enrichment for "peaceful" purposes.

When have they 'taken action' without permission?

They work hand in hand wth the west to make the ME over into 'their image'. Every single time the Israelis 'act' the west feigns surprise as if they didn't know (and didn't provide intel, surveillance, support, etc).

I did not suggest Israel had ever sought permission for anything. The term I used was consensus and I was referring specifically to Operation Opera (also known as Operation Babylon). Iran itself took action against the Iraqi nuclear power program during that time.

Yah right, now switch over. You are referring to operation OPERA; Aka, Operation Babylon, the bombing raid by american built jets and american built bunker busters on Iraqs not yet operational reactor.

As if they didn't work together on the mission, all down the line. Or over the decades to steal the countries resources, behead the gubment and millions of Iraqi people. Ongoing...

What, who us?

Once again it seems you have misunderstood what I mean. By using the term consensus I am not suggesting Israel is not supported and supplied by the US. By using the term "consensus" I am saying that, as history has shown, Israel will not depend on diplomacy or the backing of the UN when it comes to its own defence against what it perceives as a threat.

a reply to: Profusion

Quite the reach, isn't this? The quote was from a general during a large military drill, so it's not like he can say "our missiles will suck and we will perish if the enemy attacks". Another thing he said, which is conveniently left out of the Independent's article, puts it further into context:

General Hajizadeh pointed to the US officials' remarks about Iran's missile tests, and said Washington officials are only after "a pretext to show their animosity towards us; we are making round-the-clock efforts to defend our country's security and if the enemy dares to make any mistake our roaring missiles will land on them."

IRGC Commander Sees US Officials' Anti-Iran Allegations as Nonsense

It sounds far more like self defense when read from an actual Iranian source. That link is actually a pretty detailed article where the general seems to emphasize the self-reliance of their defense industry. I was trying to find the full interview, but I couldn't find it & stopped caring lol. Either way, that website also has A LOT of up to date articles about the current Syrian War, so they seem far more credible a source.