1995 State of the Union Bill Clinton Proposed the Same Policies that Trump is Supporting.

a reply to: Phage

Those deportation numbers are deceptive...
www.latimes.com...

originally posted by: Phage

I don't think misogyny has much to do with immigration reform.

Just as much as "immigration reform" has to do with racism when it's not the left calling for it. When it comes to the extremist left there is no logic.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

When it comes to the extremist left there is no logic.

As opposed to the extremist right? They're all about logic?

originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

The left is really quiet in this thread...

Sorry but I was busy! I believe that people should uphold just laws. I do not have a problem stopping illegal aliens. They are lawbreakers. I have no problems with people found guilty of crimes being tossed in jail. I just question the following:

a) The cost of the wall; and
b) The effectiveness of the wall to prevent illegals>

THat is my worry.

originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
a reply to: Phage

Let's also ignore the fact that the same people who vilified Trump and his supporters as Nazi racists for wanting immigration laws enforced are now praising Obama on his deportation record.

Funny how this Obama deportation statistic was never bandied about by Dems during the election campaign.

Let's also ignore the hypocrisy of Chucky Schumer and his crocodile tears.

What do you expect when US politics is almost devoid of political theory and more about populism. We just regress to childhood with name calling and potty mouths. People have short memories!

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

It is literally an illness of the mind, a cancerous tumor of the population, a corrosive idealism eating away at the foundation of our country... Just like communism, it infects and spreads and must be fought EVERYWHERE it rears it's head. This is huge... the people behind this, who came up with this, are very calculating and insidious and cunning.

I think it's important to always keep in mind, that these folks really do believe in their hearts that they stand for what is good and right and just... So, they Want to do good. I think a lot of them have a skewed perception of themselves. They literally cannot see what is wrong with their way of thinking.

So don't treat them like idiots or evil maniacs (I do it too, its hard to resist..), treat them like someone lost in the woods, who needs your help to find their way out... be kind. This is all about hearts and minds, not about a personal victory in an internet joust of words, or stars and flags... all your buddies may give you stars and flags, but if that one person walks away even more determined in their beliefs because you belittled them, then really, you LOST too, nobody won.

originally posted by: Phage

No. Trump, after walking back from deporting all of them, said he would prioritize criminals in the deportation system. Which is what Obama had been doing.

Wrong...that's not what border patrol agents, and other government agents have been saying about the Obama administration. Contrary to this new claim you are making, ex-President Obama has been deporting more illegal aliens that are not criminals, and allowing more criminal aliens to go free...

...
Instead, it appears that federal agents on the ground are being ordered to fudge the numbers as part of a broader Obama administration effort to protect illegal immigrants and falsely portray the Mexican border as safe. The GAO report suggests that Border Patrol headquarters directed agents to misclassify criminal illegal aliens, presumably to hide the fact that they were being released instead of prosecuted. Officials interviewed as part of the probe “said that agents received oral direction from headquarters to reclassify criminal aliens who cannot be given a consequence of federal prosecution, and that written data integrity guidance to sectors did not include activities for checking the accuracy of alien classifications,” the GAO report states.
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Border Patrol Alters Stats to Hide Release of Criminal Aliens, High Recidivism

That's been happening under Obama's watch.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

It really just shows you how far left the Democrats have fallen in the last 20 years. It explains why Republicans own just about everything right now.