Commando dies in U.S. raid in Yemen, first military op OK'd by Trump

originally posted by: slider1982

originally posted by: JimiBlack

originally posted by: slider1982

originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: Cobaltic1978

Still doesn't equate to the amount of people *civilians* killed in Chicago!


WHERES THAT OUTRAGE NOW?

Soldiers know what they signed up for!

You cannot speak of such things as there are massive cultural issues that would be "racist" to address...

When communities start calling out their issues rather than blaming everyone else maybe things would change...



RA

The thugs are the minority among us Black Americans and if it was up to me, I'd make them extinct. Most of us Black Americans feel this way. It's the ones in the "hoods" that won't handle their business by cleaning up. And as far as being labeled racist, as long as one doesn't think they're better than me because of skin tone, no racism involved.

Well mate I commend you on that statement,

It is also very sad that people in the "Hoods" do not see what they are causing and get it sorted out... More people should be open to call them out like you just have..


RA

Thanks man. Just calling it as it is.

a reply to: TheMalefactor

There's almost nothing left, but what's left appears to be a normal MV-22. It's one thing to build a stealth helicopter, but an MV-22 would be harder.

originally posted by: Skywatcher2011
People lose lives in war...get over it.

Hilary Clinton & Benghazi...innocent lives lost there and she could have prevented it MONTHS in advance.

By that logic people should "get over" Benghazi.

Funny how both sides just switch their arguments when it suits them.

on the plus side, the siblings and survived family members of those innocent people are NOT going to hate America and sign up at their nearest local terror recruitment station and vow to wage Jihad, thus continuing the cycle. thats not at all likely to happen, and will NOT.

This raid? part of 'making Yemen more flat again'?

This is quite a change compared to dronebama however.
Not for a minute do i belief that this was aimed at al qaeda.
But it is of course quite easy to spin it that way, however, this will have been in accordance with Saudi Arabia and i do not see al qaeda fighting in or against saudi arabia.

a reply to: Cobaltic1978

The US, killing its own proxy armies?

Nothing new. Whats new is that the Commander in Chief specifically said that he was not an establishment cretin, yet continues the very same shell game that the previous two administrations have been playing with the people.

Wonderful.

a reply to: TrueBrit

It is sad that people are dying so that Trump can score a public relations coup. Al Qaeda lingers on, and the death of the girl will win new recruits.

a reply to: DJW001

Exactly.

Its a bloody sham, and always was.

originally posted by: Mandroid7
I am much more concerned about this writer Trump bashing on the backs of a dead soldier that served us all.

Absolute creepshow in the media these days

Remember.....not news any more......large scale propaganda psychological warfare brainwashing thingy.

originally posted by: neo96

Some one needs to tell them no one use's the word commando anymore.

Right. I don't know if they're talking Rangers, MARSOC, SF or what.

At any rate, the whole WTFOMGBBQ thing over losing SF is a journalist thing. No one wants to see a brother in arms hurt or killed but it goes with the job. And I'm pretty sure Trump didn't give the order to shoot the guy's kids but if you hide behind them when Charlie Jr does the dynamic entry it's a crap shoot.

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: TrueBrit

It is sad that people are dying so that Trump can score a public relations coup. Al Qaeda lingers on, and the death of the girl will win new recruits.

Ok, while heated in recent times, this war against radical Mooooslims has been going on for hundreds of years. And when they are not fighting some western "christianized" nation the have at it between themselves.

originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: TrueBrit

It is sad that people are dying so that Trump can score a public relations coup. Al Qaeda lingers on, and the death of the girl will win new recruits.

Ok, while heated in recent times, this war against radical Mooooslims has been going on for hundreds of years. And when they are not fighting some western "christianized" nation the have at it between themselves.

Exactly... so if we leave them alone they will fight each other. That would be sound policy.

While it is sad about the child, before we go giving the women a pass, read this:

"There were a lot of female combatants that were a part of this," Navy Capt. Jeff Davis, a Pentagon spokesman, said of the firefight in the raid Saturday, which the Defense Department and White House said killed at least 14 enemy fighters. "Some of those enem[ies] killed in action were female."

Davis said the SEALs saw the women running to fighting positions as the team approached an enemy compound in Yemen's interior.

The main al-Qaida group generally limits women to support roles and suicide attacks, but AQAP reportedly has put women through training for combat.

www.military.com...

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: TrueBrit

It is sad that people are dying so that Trump can score a public relations coup. Al Qaeda lingers on, and the death of the girl will win new recruits.

Ok, while heated in recent times, this war against radical Mooooslims has been going on for hundreds of years. And when they are not fighting some western "christianized" nation the have at it between themselves.

Exactly... so if we leave them alone they will fight each other. That would be sound policy.

All the world is for Allah.

No Allah. No Peace.

I wish you were right in your assumptions, but history says otherwise.

OP, give us any "successful" military operation that didn't result in a casualty?

People suck at shooting guns, and people are in the wrong place at the wrong time, its a conflict.

What do you mean first one approved by Trump?

Didn't Mattis carry out some 30+ attacks on day one? Was Trump not in on all those? Is Mattis going rogue or is Trump being unaware of what's going on around him?

a reply to: queenofswords

Lets not forget, islam loves using women and children as meat shields. They dont cherish them, they are replaceable to them like so many goats.

a reply to: Bedlam

LOL

Commando is a white male with camo face paint and a gun shooting children.

Get with the times yo!

source
Two weeks after the killing of Awlaki, a separate CIA drone strike in Yemen killed his 16-year-old American-born son, Abdulrahman, along with the boy’s 17-year-old cousin and several other innocent Yemenis. The U.S. eventually claimed that the boy was not their target but merely “collateral damage.” Abdulrahman’s grief-stricken grandfather, Nasser al-Awlaki, urged the Washington Post “to visit a Facebook memorial page for Abdulrahman,” which explained: “Look at his pictures, his friends, and his hobbies His Facebook page shows a typical kid.” Few events pulled the mask off Obama officials like this one. It highlighted how the Obama administration was ravaging Yemen, one of the world’s poorest countries: just weeks after he won the Nobel Prize, Obama used cluster bombs that killed 35 Yemeni women and children.

How is Trump being tough on terrorists but Obama wasn't? Just a continuation of the previous administration's policies that were a continuation of the Bush Administration's policies. The result is always innocents dying -- innocents whose friends and family want retribution and no longer have a home. Which brings us to where we are today.

I just don't understand how people won't support a war that's being fought by a President they don't like but will immediately back the same war when their guy is in office.

a reply to: Butterfinger

Speaking of treating people like "meat"..


WHY was Trump's Son-In-Law and the Chief Editor of a White Nationalist website members of the Decision team?

WHY...Did Trump claim it a success when a Seal-Team Six member was killed and several others severely injured?

WHY...Did the Trump administration only acknowledge several civilians and children were killed AFTER pictures emerged on Social Media?

After initially denying there were any civilian casualties, Pentagon officials backtracked somewhat on Sunday after reports from the Yemeni authorities begin trickling in and grisly photographs of bloody children purportedly killed in the attack appeared on social media

This was hasty, incompetent decision to "go" involving people that should have NEVER been in the decision.

SEVERAL Civilians, including Children were killed.
A US Soldier was killed.
A 70 Million Dollar MV-22 Osprey was Lost.


WHY didn't Trump scrub the mission once they knew the element of surprise was blown

Al Qaeda fighters were somehow tipped off to the stealthy advance toward the village — perhaps by the whine of American drones that local tribal leaders said were flying lower and louder than usual.

Through a communications intercept, the commandos knew that the mission had been somehow compromised, but pressed on toward their target roughly five miles from where they had been flown into the area.
“They kind of knew they were screwed from the beginning,” one former SEAL Team 6 official said.

www.nytimes.com...