Against my own predictions - I actually like Theresa May

Although I was in doubt about having a primeminister that supported 'Remain' (although it is rumoured Theresa was actually a Brexiteer) I have to own up and say... I like the woman.

Nobody can deny that this woman is respecting the democratic result of the referendum.

This woman very soon is going to need a wheelbarrow to carry her massive balls around. Pulling out of the single market, Telling Europe that unless we get a good deal then we will just leave.

It's nice to see a politician who doesn't pander to the elite!

I honestly think that her and Trump are the best thing that could have happened to the UK and USA.

Admittedly I would have liked to see Nigel Farage become our leader but as a second choice I really can't fault May on anything Brexit related right now. The woman has a MAMMOTH task on her hand and she is sticking to her guns and doing what needs to be done.

She should be respected

a reply to: fusiondoe

I agree whole heartedly. Let the new leaders prove themselves before putting them down. The world is in turmoil from having too many soft leaders. There is a lot to clean up and hopefully the new leaders will work together to make this happen in a peaceful with the best interest of their respective populaces in mind.

a reply to: fusiondoe

I voted leave.

However, her behaviour since then with regard to policy has been nothing short of the absolute opposite of what I, and many other people in this country, want or need. She has used the referendum result to assume for herself a mandate that she does NOT have, to brutalise the social safety net even further, to increase the power of the rich, to collapse the fundamental support structures which uphold the poor, i.e. the majority. She is every bit as bad for my countrymen as the advent of Thatcher was.

This may come as a surprise to many of the members here, but Thatcher, was one of our least popular PMs. May seems to be following in that same vein. The sooner she is stopped and replaced with someone who is not out to gut the working class in this country, the better for all of us. If she could remove her nose from without Trumps rectum it would be nice as well. The last thing we need is someone pandering to that...dross.

a reply to: fusiondoe
Have you noticed the imaginative cunning of the decision to make Boris Johnson Foreign Secretary? It has the practical effect of gagging him, so that he cannot stir things up with public interventions while things are happening on the Continent.
Modern Prime Ministers tend to run their own foreign policy, anyway.

Trump better continue to buy 9 billion quid worth of our stash or we are proper screwed.
We dont even ave Europe to sell to. Probably end up ending dole and put the sponges on camps and feed em parsnips.

a reply to: Pandaram

A free trade agreement between the UK and US is being worked on but the earliest it could come into effect is after the UK officially leaves the EU. As for PM May I like her.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Lets hope. They says america first, propably saudi come second. and trump promised he will end the drug import.

originally posted by: Pandaram
a reply to: Xcathdra

Lets hope. They says america first, propably saudi come second. and trump promised he will end the drug import.

I am not so sure about Saudi Arabia... Trump caused quite a stir when he talked about banning oil imports from them and shoring up domestic production.

I think she is doing okay on the international stage and the fact she stated that the days of interventionism is over, well I like what I hear and we will await her actions.

As for Brexit, the E.U puppets have been very negative towards our decision, with all sorts of threats and suggestions of making the U.K pay for the decision. So, she is right about no deal being better than a bad deal.

I watched the Trump speech with her and she seemed to be a decent person. She said she is happy to return control of their countries future to their own people and own government. She said it was screwed up how they needed to petition the European Union just to do what they wanted to do in their own country. From taking medical classes from Europe, it is evident they want to ban some food chemistries they know are harming their people and are having a hard time doing it when belonging to the Union. Now they are in control of their own future again.

Being an outsider, May has stood up for the UK regarding the EU.

Brexit was not wanted by the entire UK and there's still lots of hard feelings, from what I've seen. Plus Scotland is on the fence with how to proceed. What I don't understand is who the piss is responsible for getting your train system back in order? Who in government isn't on the ball?

I still don't even 1/2 way understand why Lafarge hasn't been muzzled for the buffoon he is, or Boris bounced off to a nice country estate to go "write his book". (retirement)

The whole Labor, Jeremy Corbin drama that seems to never end is also a conundrum.

Maybe someone can help me out with some of this?

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: fusiondoe

I voted leave.

However, her behaviour since then with regard to policy has been nothing short of the absolute opposite of what I, and many other people in this country, want or need. She has used the referendum result to assume for herself a mandate that she does NOT have, to brutalise the social safety net even further, to increase the power of the rich, to collapse the fundamental support structures which uphold the poor, i.e. the majority. She is every bit as bad for my countrymen as the advent of Thatcher was.

This may come as a surprise to many of the members here, but Thatcher, was one of our least popular PMs. May seems to be following in that same vein. The sooner she is stopped and replaced with someone who is not out to gut the working class in this country, the better for all of us. If she could remove her nose from without Trumps rectum it would be nice as well. The last thing we need is someone pandering to that...dross.

Can tell your from up north! It's starting to get boring now, Maggie Thatcher did what needed to be done, to stop the miners and unions holding the country to ransom.

Get over it

What's all this pontificating about Mrs May??? She aint done nothing yet. She's just traveled around saying this saying that but has done nothing. Oh yes to believe you she can talk the talk but as the saying goes can she walk the walk.
Only time will tell on that one but let her bask in the perceived glory her talk promises cos if it goes aot she'll be thrown to the dogs.

a reply to: fusiondoe soon as i read your post i thought from london (and i was right,without looking ) don,t need to worry about any hardship,london is centre of the universe to the deluded down there,uk is out of europe for that reason alone cause people in rest of uk are sick of being treated as 2nd class citizens.

it was 2 fingers up to london.

I'd rather base my opinions on a person based on what they do not what they say....

She's increased the scope of spying on citizens, overseen the collapse of the investigation into paedophile rings in Whitehall, is a major shareholder in G4S which is why they continually get govt contracts despite not being fit for purpose, offered Brexit light which is basically not Brexit at all if we're still tied to the single market and have to pay their exponentially increasing extortionate fees for membership, panders to the Israeli lobby via the CFI almost to the point of kowtowing, penalised the poor, penalised the disabled, has overseen some of the biggest acts of privatisation since the 80s with the gradual sell offs of things our taxes paid for, sold off land and housing to foreign slum lords...but yeah one act of hand holding with that moron with a combover, a couple of carefully constructed soundbytes and she's suddenly amazeballs.

I think she's a horrible c*** and I'm from London.

a reply to: fusiondoe

I am from the South, as it happens.

And I will get over it, when there is a left wing, accountable and socially responsible government in this country. Until then, there will be a very good reason not to get over it.

And another thing:

The miners. The miners are the workers, and the workers word MUST be law. You go down a hole in the ground to mine a vital resource, with inappropriate safety measures, pay that does not cover the rent, leave alone the risk one takes doing the job, and layoffs all over the place leaving the pit dangerously understaffed, then tell me it was a ransom situation.

a reply to: TrueBrit

Hey TrueBrit, totally disagree regarding Thatcher. There is certainly a level of antipathy towards her but on the other hand she won 3 elections in a row - she can't have been all that unpopular can she?

And if you take the left leaning spectacles off for a sec, as an honest gent you have to admit that the Poll Tax was actually less intrustrive than Council Tax (Blair's Labour).

As for the miners, i am sick to death of this argument. Even most miners don't actually realise that the Coal Board wanted far more pit closures than Thatcher forced through and that Thatcher actually tried to avoid many closures. The intransigence of the Miners Union left no alternative. I will not argue that the whole thing was badly handled but the Left will sooner or later have to acknowledge that they played a huge role in how it all eventually played out.

As to the thread itself, i am not sure where i sit with Theresa (Teresa). I had high hopes for her as PM but get conflicting feelings about her in that she sometimes offers hope in a leader, at others she seems completely out of her depth - and i am an unapologetic Tory!

a reply to: Flavian

Unpopular? No. Mind you, there have been many popular leaders who were also morally retarded, barbarian, sadistic, heartless, cold, lying things from the rectum of Hell. Popularity is largely immaterial.

As for your false narrative about Thatcher trying to keep things open, thats all very well, but that narrative was written by the winners, and cannot be trusted entirely, now can it?

a reply to: TrueBrit

False narrative? Check the documents that have been released - particularly those of the NCB. If you wish to disagree, that is perfectly fine and entirely your right. Please though do not make stuff up just to try and prove a point.

There is plenty of documented evidence. Typically, the left continues to ignore this so they can pump their own narrative. I will not deny that when the Unions refused to budge at all, Thatcher went after them - something i am still unsure about (as i understand and accept both sides of the argument). However, if the Left had played ball from the beginning there would have been far less closures. Read the evidence - both from the discussions between the Miners Union and the NCB and also from later, when the government started to get involved.