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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
Plus, there's the fact that the Senate has already voted against funding the preexisting clause. So there's that.
Republicans don't care about well being or family. They care about money and money.
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: amazing
What happens if it goes away is that your personal budgeting woes will return to being your personal budgeting woes in much the same manner as the ACA has made your personal budgeting woes the problem of everyone else.
Sorry to be blunt, but that's really the entirety of it. I keep hearing this 20 million will lose coverage figure thrown out there, what I think those 20 million don't realize (or don't care about) is that there are a good 100 million+ of us who had affordable insurance AND AFFORDABLE DEDUCTABLES before the ACA who now are being forced to pay so much in premiums and deductables that we can't freaking afford to use the damn insurance we're paying 300%+ more for. So we're supposed to care deeply about the plight of the uninsured who obviously have zero sympathies towards the very folks being fleeced to provide them their insurance...
Repeal it ASAP. No rewriting, no retooling, no replacing, just GET RID OF IT.
originally posted by: RiptKeys
Seeing as your title is "SJW", it's no wonder the first thing in your argument is "me, me, mine, mine".
Am I sad your wife had/has cancer. Of course. Most humans will be. But you're talking about keeping bad legislation/taxes around for the benefit of the few.
20 million will lose insurance. That is less than 7% of the American population. The rest of us were just fine before the ACA.
I came from nothing, and made something of myself. I was happy to call myself middle class. It was a great achievement for anyone in my family. Throughout the hard work I put in, the long hours, and all the pay raises I've received in my life's path, I was very proud and content. I was paying $75 for single coverage, and after I got married, I was paying $190 for a family plan.
After ACA, my social standing and my years of schooling and hard work, have gone down the drain.
A family plan, for my perfectly healthy family, is $900 a month in NV. Since this is $25 away from being a second mortgage for me, I chose to have individual coverage for myself ($250 a month), and go to the exchange for my family ($400 a month).
An average yearly raise is 1%-3% of my salary for my career. That is on average $50-$150 extra a month after taxes. The ACA has taken away 4-6 years of raises. It has taken me from comfortable middle class, to bordering on poor, in just a few years. Why? So I can pay for you and your wife's healthcare? I can't put $50 a month into a savings account right now for my kid's future, but you want me to save your wife? Think about that. Reallllllly think about that. American families kid's won't go to college, or have a better life, because of the lower 7% in this country.
No thanks. See Ya ACA!
originally posted by: JBUSA
I think you should get a first or second job rather than wasting your time playing on the internet because I mean when I say I care about my family a.gazzilion to the bazillion times more than I care about your wife. If you were amazing you'd find a way but it's just a screen name and you're just a liberal.
No one that had it was ungrateful, just their 'neighbors'.
originally posted by: Phoenix
a reply to: amazing
All across various threads on healthcare no but no one wants to address the cost side of the problem.
Seems everyone more interested in their political version of insurance.
Nary a peep on egregious and criminal charges.
originally posted by: amazing
originally posted by: JBUSA
I think you should get a first or second job rather than wasting your time playing on the internet because I mean when I say I care about my family a.gazzilion to the bazillion times more than I care about your wife. If you were amazing you'd find a way but it's just a screen name and you're just a liberal.
If you don't want to have a meaningful discussion than why jump on my thread? It's about healthcare costs. I probably work long and harder than you do. I'm fairly certain I do...my wife works too. Together we probably work about 90-120 hours total, many times on Saturdays and Sundays.
But please do tell me how my worrying about how health insurance companies coverage and cost for my wife make me a liberal? That should be enlightening.
Just wanted to ask...how much money do you make? If you think that working two jobs is enough to pay out of pocket for medical costs that can be hundreds of thousands of dollars. I must have made the wrong career choices. lol
originally posted by: ROBOTNINJADRAGON
a reply to: amazing
Republicans don't care about well being or family. They care about money and money.
The ones who think they're specifically profiting from the removal of Obamacare don't even use Obamacare. No one that had it was ungrateful, just their 'neighbors'.
My roommate has complained about Obamacare and the fine for 3 years now. He also doesn't go to the Doctor, he has to lay in the shower every morning to 'relax his muscles' and has gingivitis. It's ironic he thinks he never needs to see the doctor. He's been sick 5 times this winter. I guess we're expected to live with health standards like these people.
originally posted by: JBUSA
originally posted by: amazing
originally posted by: JBUSA
I think you should get a first or second job rather than wasting your time playing on the internet because I mean when I say I care about my family a.gazzilion to the bazillion times more than I care about your wife. If you were amazing you'd find a way but it's just a screen name and you're just a liberal.
If you don't want to have a meaningful discussion than why jump on my thread? It's about healthcare costs. I probably work long and harder than you do. I'm fairly certain I do...my wife works too. Together we probably work about 90-120 hours total, many times on Saturdays and Sundays.
But please do tell me how my worrying about how health insurance companies coverage and cost for my wife make me a liberal? That should be enlightening.
Just wanted to ask...how much money do you make? If you think that working two jobs is enough to pay out of pocket for medical costs that can be hundreds of thousands of dollars. I must have made the wrong career choices. lol
Sorry boss you're not the arbitrator of meaningfulness. I think negating $12.000 of increased premiums for my family is more meanigful than your wife and so does the GOP. As they own the executive branch that is what matters, but feel free to make a sign relating your anger on the way out. What I do is of no concern to you because I am not asking demanding or conversing about forcing others to subsidize my healthcare. If working two jobs isn't enough to pay the premiums on your wives new high risk plan then get a third or a fourth job, maybe a better one, I don't care so long as I don't have to subsidize your well being and unsatisfactory salary.
There's got to be a compromise. The main thing I'm concerned with is skyrocketing healthcare costs and making sure the preexisting conditions clause is left alone. That makes sense, right?
originally posted by: amazing
originally posted by: JBUSA
originally posted by: amazing
originally posted by: JBUSA
I think you should get a first or second job rather than wasting your time playing on the internet because I mean when I say I care about my family a.gazzilion to the bazillion times more than I care about your wife. If you were amazing you'd find a way but it's just a screen name and you're just a liberal.
If you don't want to have a meaningful discussion than why jump on my thread? It's about healthcare costs. I probably work long and harder than you do. I'm fairly certain I do...my wife works too. Together we probably work about 90-120 hours total, many times on Saturdays and Sundays.
But please do tell me how my worrying about how health insurance companies coverage and cost for my wife make me a liberal? That should be enlightening.
Just wanted to ask...how much money do you make? If you think that working two jobs is enough to pay out of pocket for medical costs that can be hundreds of thousands of dollars. I must have made the wrong career choices. lol
Sorry boss you're not the arbitrator of meaningfulness. I think negating $12.000 of increased premiums for my family is more meanigful than your wife and so does the GOP. As they own the executive branch that is what matters, but feel free to make a sign relating your anger on the way out. What I do is of no concern to you because I am not asking demanding or conversing about forcing others to subsidize my healthcare. If working two jobs isn't enough to pay the premiums on your wives new high risk plan then get a third or a fourth job, maybe a better one, I don't care so long as I don't have to subsidize your well being and unsatisfactory salary.
It's not about subsidizing me or my family. It's about making healthcare affordable. We have one of the highest costs for healthcare and prescription drugs in the world, here in the US. Think about that.
Maybe you should make a sign and join in some kind of protest about it. But that's the nature of healthcare in the USA.
I'm sorry too boss, you're also not the arbitrator of meaningfulness. My opinion is that my wife's life and our quality of life is more important than your $12,000. Sounds like instead of complaining like a special snowflake, you should get a 2nd or 3rd job?
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: JBUSA
That may be the dumbest comment I have read on ATS. Do you know how much cancer treatment costs in this country? Do you want him to pick up a second job as an executive of Goldman Sachs or something?