U.S. government scientists go 'rogue' in defiance of Trump

a reply to: soficrow

If I remember right, it is a federal crime to use a federal agency's moniker or logo on a personal site or personal communications. It doesn't matter if they work for the agency or not.

Cheers - Dave

a reply to: soficrow

No. 'Cuz soon, about the ONLY jobs for humans will be government funded ones. The new factories that Trump's demanding will be automated.

Agreed. Changes are coming, and they are coming quick.

originally posted by: Ohanka
They can find themselves new jobs then, can't they?

I find it quite disturbing that you guys are all for people having and maintaining jobs except if you perceive them as left leaning.

Grow the F$CK up!

originally posted by: bobs_uruncle
a reply to: soficrow

If I remember right, it is a federal crime to use a federal agency's moniker or logo on a personal site or personal communications. It doesn't matter if the work for the agency or not.

Cheers - Dave

I'm pretty sure you're right - which is why they changed them.

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a reply to: Lughnasadh

I find it quite disturbing that you guys are all for people having and maintaining jobs except if you perceive them as left leaning.

Since when did one members post become 'you guys'?

a reply to: D8Tee

RE: soon, about the ONLY jobs for humans will be government funded ones. The new factories that Trump's demanding will be automated.

Agreed. Changes are coming, and they are coming quick.

Yes. No doubt that's why this administration is planning to create jobs building infrastructure, just like in the 1930's depression.

Hopefully it will buy enough time to ease into the no-work-for-humans transition. But the only alternative to mass starvation and riots I've read about is the Universal Basic Income plan.




[Yipes. Just remembered the Great Depression ended with the USA going to war. ...Who else can we pick a fight with?]

a reply to: soficrow

Hopefully it will buy enough time to ease into the no-work-for-humans transition. But the only alternative to mass starvation and riots I've read about is the Universal Basic Income plan.

Yep, I see it the same way. There's huge opposition to a UBI right now. That will change. The money can flow from the bottom up instead of the top down.

a reply to: D8Tee

As in 'trickle-up economics' instead of the failed 'trickle-down' economic model?

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: Lughnasadh

I find it quite disturbing that you guys are all for people having and maintaining jobs except if you perceive them as left leaning.

Since when did one members post become 'you guys'?

Are you not in here saying this is great?

a reply to: Lughnasadh

I find it quite disturbing that you guys are all for people having and maintaining jobs except if you perceive them as left leaning.

I don't care which way a person leans politically, if they are violating company policy and feel they cannot abide by that policy, they should look for a new job. I've worked at places with non disclosure agreements, if I had violated them, I'd have expected to be fired, for just cause.

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: Lughnasadh

I find it quite disturbing that you guys are all for people having and maintaining jobs except if you perceive them as left leaning.

I don't care which way a person leans politically, if they are violating company policy and feel they cannot abide by that policy, they should look for a new job. I've worked at places with non disclosure agreements, if I had violated them, I'd have expected to be fired, for just cause.

You mean like you guy's hero Julian Assange?

Wait until they find out who is really running these twitter accounts, it is not scientists. I can not believe how people are being played.

a reply to: Lughnasadh

You mean like you guy's hero Julian Assange?

You're doing it again.

gen·er·al·i·za·tion
ˌjen(ə)rələˈzāSH(ə)n/
noun
a general statement or concept obtained by inference from specific cases.
"he was making sweeping generalizations"
the action of generalizing.
"such anecdotes cannot be a basis for generalization"

Assange is kinda self employed, as he is the founder of his organization.

a reply to: soficrow

Also:

Dozens of computer science students at the University of California, Los Angeles, will mark Inauguration Day by downloading federal climate databases they fear could vanish under the Trump administration.

Friday's hackathon follows a series of grassroots data preservation efforts in recent weeks, amid increasing concerns the new administration is filling agencies with climate deniers likely eager to cut off access to scientific data that undermine their policy views. Those worries only grew earlier this week, when Inside EPA reported that the Environmental Protection Agency transition team plans to scrub climate data from the agency's website, citing a source familiar with the team.

Earlier federal data hackathons include the "Guerrilla Archiving" event at the University of Toronto last month, the Internet Archive's Gov Data Hackathon in San Francisco at the beginning of January, and the DataRescue Philly event at the University of Pennsylvania last week.

This is going on all over the world. I am guessing than in more places that what's been stated in the press over the past few months. The USA is shipping it's knowledge out of these agencies, out of the country and into safer hands

This is how dire our circumstances have become

a reply to: Watcher777

To be fair you're right. These could be anyone making these Twitter accounts. However, that doesn't matter. A large portion of the populace are perceiving them as legitimate. And as long as that's the case it makes Trump look bad.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

I give these accounts three days and they are going to be blown wide open. I think I have the information on at least one of the accounts and it is definitely not sourced by any government employee.

a reply to: Watcher777

I think I have the information on at least one of the accounts and it is definitely not sourced by any government employee.

That's right. The scientists made public statements that they removed themselves as account holders, and gave the passwords to people they trust so that they would not face legal blow-back and/or lose their jobs.

Just out of curiosity - If you question the legitimacy of the scientists' formal work, why do you care who manages the #resist accounts?

a reply to: Watcher777

Wait until they find out who is really running these twitter accounts, it is not scientists. I can not believe how people are being played.

Imagine a person of average intelligence and recognize that 50 percent of the population is dumber than that.

a reply to: Watcher777

You really think that? Remember we live on a 24 hour news cycle. How many people do you think saw the articles on the Badlands tweets? It seems to be a lot considering how many times I saw it posted on social media. How many people do you think saw the article where Badlands said it was an ex-employee that made the tweets? Doesn't seem like that many.

The damage is done. By the time anything else gets reported about these accounts the public will be focused on something else.

a reply to: soficrow

Which "scientists" made public statements that they removed themselves as account holders? Which agencies?

I do not question the formal work of a legitimate scientist...legitimate. So what your saying is people should listen to anonymous twitter accounts without question?