Trump’s Still Using His Old Android Phone. That’s Very, Very Risky

a reply to: sad_eyed_lady

I absolutely love his twitter use.
NO ONE gets to filter him.
NO ONE gets to interpret what he really means.
His twitter allows him to sidestep the msm and speak directly to the american people.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Are you concerned Trumps twitter will be hacked?
You do know twitter is not a formal US govt means of communications right?

Perhaps you should read the article to get an idea for the kinds of things that can be done to this phone instead of snidely disagreeing with it just because I, a liberal poster, posted it?

Here's one of the three issues that Wired points out reposted in full.

Indecent Exposure

The headlining concern around Trump using Android is that he’s likely not protected against phishing attacks or malware. All it takes is clicking on one malicious link or opening one untoward attachment—either of which can appear as though it were sent from a trusted source—to compromise the device. From there, the phone could be infected with malware that spies on the network the device is connected to, logs keystrokes, takes over the camera and microphone for surreptitious recording, and more.

The attack may not even be so direct. Many apps request permission to track a phone’s location for legitimate purposes, and a hacker could compromise one of these accounts to determine where the phone, and potentially Trump himself, is at any given time.

Attempts to reach the White House to confirm that Trump is still using his personal Android phone were unsuccessful, and if there’s a silver lining it’s that Trump famously does not use email, which should reduce his digital exposure. But the mere fact of using an open Android device should still cause some serious alarm.

“What we know from looking at public information about disclosure of vulnerabilities and exploits on hardware and software is that Android devices have a very high volume of vulnerabilities. There’s a high level of exploitability of an Android phone,” says Sam Kassoumeh, chief operations officer at the security intelligence firm SecurityScorecard. Especially given the Android phone Trump likely uses.

Do you see the part I bolded? Does it occur to you why a random hacker knowing the President's exact location is at all times is a HUGE problem?

originally posted by: Noncents
I pity the fool that hacks that phone. Serious honey pot. Much trap.

Second line.

Well now that trap is foiled......

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
So why don't they just block his android device from accessing the White House wireless network? Did these cyber security experts forget how to do their job?

This is a non-issue. The left are just looking for reasons to put Trump in bad light.

There are more issues wrong here than just that, but what you said IS probably something the Secret Service has already done.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: sad_eyed_lady

But he can use twitter from the secured phone.

Explain how that is a problem please.
Anyone with a twitter account can know what he is posting.

a reply to: sad_eyed_lady

It isn't. I'm suggesting that he should use twitter from the secured phone instead of using the unsecured one. Unless the Secret Service forbids it, but I haven't heard anything to suggest that since @POTUS has its own twitter account.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

I will kindly direct you to this post from another member

I pity the fool that hacks that phone. Serious honey pot. Much trap.

a reply to: shooterbrody

Lol. Easier said than done.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
So why don't they just block his android device from accessing the White House wireless network? Did these cyber security experts forget how to do their job?

This is a non-issue. The left are just looking for reasons to put Trump in bad light.

There are more issues wrong here than just that, but what you said IS probably something the Secret Service has already done.

Well then please explain what other issues there are. As an expert in the IT field, I can't think of one reason he cant have a personal phone that isn't allowed on the network other than storing classified info on it.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Do you see the part I bolded? Does it occur to you why a random hacker knowing the President's exact location is at all times is a HUGE problem?

And your source providing trumps phone is a standard plain jane android just like a regular citizens?

You do know he has maintained his own personal security in addition to the secret service right?
Those guys surely have no experience in cyber security right?

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Do you see the part I bolded? Does it occur to you why a random hacker knowing the President's exact location is at all times is a HUGE problem?

And your source providing trumps phone is a standard plain jane android just like a regular citizens?

The OP for starters:

Based on some photo analysis, Android Central thinks Trump may use a Samsung Galaxy S3, a model that was first released in 2012. Another report pegged it as a slightly more recent Galaxy S4. Regardless of specifics, any mainstream Android device would be problematic, even with some precautions in place.

You do know he has maintained his own personal security in addition to the secret service right?
Those guys surely have no experience in cyber security right?

I dunno. Got any proof they do?

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
So why don't they just block his android device from accessing the White House wireless network? Did these cyber security experts forget how to do their job?

This is a non-issue. The left are just looking for reasons to put Trump in bad light.

There are more issues wrong here than just that, but what you said IS probably something the Secret Service has already done.

Well then please explain what other issues there are. As an expert in the IT field, I can't think of one reason he cant have a personal phone that isn't allowed on the network other than storing classified info on it.

Read the article. It's all explained very nicely by Wired.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: iTruthSeeker

Well if you'd read the article, it mentions he was using it for Twitter. Plus what you THINK he is using it for is irrelevant. What matters is what he is actually using it for, which is anyone's guess.

I agree...it needs to be addressed. As an executive, he has to understand the concept of taking unwanted but correct advice from advisors and professionals within his circle. I can't imagine the SS hasn't pursued the matter forcefully with him, and if they haven't they are sharing some blame as well (along with his Chief of Staff, who should be pushing him to act accordingly).

For those waving this as his version of Hillary's snafu's....not buying that. Him resisting change is a different animal than setting up an unapproved network in your home. Although if he ignores advisors (and the security policies), i'd expect someone to try to force him to comply.

Isn't that what they criticised Hillary for? Double standards again.
Ha ha.
One way or another they're gonna a get him .
This is so funny.

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
So why don't they just block his android device from accessing the White House wireless network? Did these cyber security experts forget how to do their job?

This is a non-issue. The left are just looking for reasons to put Trump in bad light.

Exactly.
I am fairly certain that phone is not on a government network.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Your thread
I thought the burden of proof was on you
So is it a S3 or an S4?( I dont feel so bad now I upgraded from an S3 last summer and this millionaire/billionaire is still carrying one)

Either way you posted it is not illegal.

Glad people are more aware of cyber threats but, this seems to be a non issue. Other than his tweets seem to drive people nuts.

a reply to: Sillyolme

Isn't that what they criticised Hillary for?

Only if he has CLASSIFIED info on his phone.
Do you have a source that says he does?

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: sad_eyed_lady

It isn't. I'm suggesting that he should use twitter from the secured phone instead of using the unsecured one. Unless the Secret Service forbids it, but I haven't heard anything to suggest that since @POTUS has its own twitter account.

My article previously posted:

Donald Trump has given up his personal smartphone ahead of his inauguration. The President-elect, who has caused endless controversy over recent months with tweets from his infamous @realDonaldTrump Twitter account, has had the Android device replaced with a more secure handset.

However, Trump has said that he will continue tweeting from his personal account as President.

and Obama started to use Twitter before he left office:
Obama treads on Trump's Twitter turf to reflect on presidential achievements
dated 01/01/17

a reply to: Sillyolme

No.
Hillary used a private server to conduct government business.
She used it exclusively, including for classified information.
She combined government business and personal.
She avoided FOIA requests by using this server.

Trump IS using a government supplied phone for government business.
This provides archives for FOIA.
His personal phone is for personal use.
Big difference.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Your thread
I thought the burden of proof was on you

You are the one assuring people in the thread that a hired security team comes equipped with cyber security for some reason. So that burden of proof is on you. I didn't make that claim.

So is it a S3 or an S4?( I dont feel so bad now I upgraded from an S3 last summer and this millionaire/billionaire is still carrying one)

I don't know. Ask the Donald.

Either way you posted it is not illegal.

You're right. I did. It was an attempt to make sure that everyone in the thread knew I was trying to be objective. I guess I should have expected it would be used to blanket dismiss my ENTIRE opinion...

Glad people are more aware of cyber threats but, this seems to be a non issue. Other than his tweets seem to drive people nuts.

This is just an example of how little people understand cyber security and the IT world.