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Trump cabinet is actually Hawkish on Russia despite Trump's views

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posted on Jan, 21 2017 @ 10:25 PM
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Saw a really interesting segment on RT, the other day -

Top members of the Trump cabinet are actually Hawkish on Russia, despite Trump expressing his desire for better relations.

Defense secretary James Mattis at Confirmation hearings:

I would consider the principle threat, to start with, Russia..

Gen. James Mattis: ‘Principal Threats’ Against America ‘Start with Russia’


CIA Chief Mike Pompeo:

Russia has reasserted itself aggressively

Trump’s CIA nominee takes tough stand on Russia


Secretary of State Rex Tillerson:

Russia today poses a danger.

'Russia today poses a danger,' Trump nominee Rex Tillerson admits


He also said he would have recommended a muscular response to Moscow's 2014 annexation of Ukraine's Crimea region. Both assertions appeared to contradict the views of the president-elect, who has repeatedly spoken of improving U.S.-Russian ties.



Also Donald Trump initially commented that he thought Russia hacked the DNC:

As far as hacking, I thought it was Russia.

Trump on hacking: 'I think it was Russia'


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I don't know if I believe any of the war rhetoric about Russia. It seems fishy to me, just how I thought attacking Iraq for 9-11 was fishy.

Another point everyone may be missing is the strong ties some of the cabinet have to the Military Industrial Complex, and big oil.

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Trump Cabinet Picks Raise Concerns about Military Influence


If you have a significant number of [former military members] in your cabinet, you begin to bring into some question whether you actually are maintaining full civil control of a nation,


Donald Trump, After Blasting Iraq War, Picks Top Iraq Hawk James Woolsey as National Security Adviser

I don't know if he is Security Adviser but he has strong ties to military industry -


Woolsey went on CNN on Monday and said that he was principally motivated to support Trump because of his plans to expand U.S. military spending.



He has served as vice president of Pentagon contracting giant Booz Allen, and as chairman of Paladin Capital Group, a private equity fund that invests in national security and cybersecurity. He chairs the leadership council at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, a hawkish national security nonprofit, and is a venture partner with Lux Capital Management, which invests in emerging technologies like drones, satellite imaging, and artificial intelligence.



Can this Russia situation be influenced by oil?

Maybe Russian hate is all about oil

Trump’s Cabinet choices reflect deep Koch influence

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RT's angle on this segment was that if Donald Trump and his cabinet were agents of Putin or Russia, they would have been more careful to install people who were not actually Hawkish on them.

We will see if he drops sanctions on Russia like he alluded..


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posted on Jan, 21 2017 @ 10:37 PM
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Donald Trump is an American, not a Russian. He puts America first.



posted on Jan, 21 2017 @ 10:37 PM
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Donald Trump will not drop sanctions. There is no need to. There is no trade between America and Russia anyway.
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posted on Jan, 21 2017 @ 10:40 PM
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Basically looks like Trump was looking for the best people he could find for the jobs and not necessarily a bunch of "yes" men and women.

They need to have diverse opinions to bring to the table. Donald will go ahead and do what he's going to do anyway.



posted on Jan, 21 2017 @ 10:46 PM
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Trump is just saying we can have better economic relations with Russia. It will help to lower tensions between our countries. Trump and his cabinet know we cannot trust Russia nor should we get too friendly with them. Tension between countries is instigated, we do not need to do that. Russia has it's allies and we have our allies, we do not need to hate each other to coexist, we just need to respect each others rights as a country.

Why do people think we have to either be with them or against them. Just because someone doesn't believe exactly like we do does not mean we have to hate them and instigate war. I understand the Russian and American governments benefit by our own citizens fearing the other nations, but this is normal politics. Putting sanctions on Russia makes their people dislike us, it is not our regular people who are doing this. I have nothing against the Russian people. Why are we punishing them. Sanctions do not hurt their government, it hurts their citizens most of whom are decent people.

I don't agree with Sanctions being used most times. I think diplomacy is best. Right now we still have war mongers on both sides, people who want power. That is not what Jesus or Mohammad taught. That is not what Buddha taught.

But, in this reality we cannot totally trust anyone, there are people who want power and that is not going to change in our near future.



posted on Jan, 21 2017 @ 10:48 PM
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originally posted by: WarriorOfRighteousness
Donald Trump is an American, not a Russian. He puts America first.

He puts America first when it suits him. Just look at all the foreigners he brings in to work at his resorts instead of hiring Americans just so he can make a few bucks.



posted on Jan, 21 2017 @ 11:58 PM
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I don't know if I believe any of the war rhetoric about Russia. It seems fishy to me, just how I thought attacking Iraq for 9-11 was fishy.

Another point everyone may be missing is strong ties some of these people in the cabinet have to the Military Industrial Complex, and big oil.

-----

Trump Cabinet Picks Raise Concerns about Military Influence


If you have a significant number of [former military members] in your cabinet, you begin to bring into some question whether you actually are maintaining full civil control of a nation,


Donald Trump, After Blasting Iraq War, Picks Top Iraq Hawk James Woolsey as National Security Adviser

I don't know if he is Security Adviser but he has strong ties to military industry -


Woolsey went on CNN on Monday and said that he was principally motivated to support Trump because of his plans to expand U.S. military spending.



He has served as vice president of Pentagon contracting giant Booz Allen, and as chairman of Paladin Capital Group, a private equity fund that invests in national security and cybersecurity. He chairs the leadership council at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, a hawkish national security nonprofit, and is a venture partner with Lux Capital Management, which invests in emerging technologies like drones, satellite imaging, and artificial intelligence.



posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 05:23 AM
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a reply to: nOraKat

This is getting old,wasn't it proved the accusations from Democrats was false news?are you the new CNN?,give it a rest



posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 05:23 AM
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a reply to: nOraKat

This is getting old,wasn't it proved the accusations from Democrats was false news?are you the new CNN?,give it a rest



posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 05:55 AM
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originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: WarriorOfRighteousness
Donald Trump is an American, not a Russian. He puts America first.

He puts America first when it suits him. Just look at all the foreigners he brings in to work at his resorts instead of hiring Americans just so he can make a few bucks.

You are fake news. Provide a source with your bullshlt.



posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 07:24 AM
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a reply to: buster2010

A FEW bucks? Dude, do you have any idea how cheap Chinese made steel is compared to American made steel? Not only the labor is cheap, China manipulates currency. If Trump used American steel while all the others used Chinese steel, the Trump organization would have ended bankrupt.



posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 07:28 AM
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a reply to: rickymouse

Exactly, improved relations have to start somewhere. Trade is as good a place as any to start building that up.

I don't trust Putin any further than I can throw him, but surely we can pull a Cataan and trade sheep for stone or something.



posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 07:32 AM
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France and England had been rivals and fought for hundreds of years. But they always traded and maintained relations. What Obama did cutting ties and communications with Russia was irresponsible and dangerous. A simple misunderstanding could have started WW3. With greater power comes greater responsibility.



posted on Jan, 22 2017 @ 05:09 PM
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a reply to: Oldtimer2

originally posted by: Oldtimer2
a reply to: nOraKat

This is getting old,wasn't it proved the accusations from Democrats was false news?are you the new CNN?,give it a rest


Maybe you are misinterpreting the post.

I do not support the accusations that Russia is a threat.

I am pointing out that despite Trumps suggestion for better relations with Russia, his cabinet seems to be pushing for a war.



posted on Jan, 23 2017 @ 12:01 PM
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Well, I guess we'll see if Trump lives up to his anti-establishment hype..

I don't know if I ever bought it but the support for the audit of the fed have made me at least curious.. And the way he has been attacked from every angle by the establishment. Either way he'll be better than Hillary.. we already knew what we could expect from that hag.



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