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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: UKTruth
There's plenty of discussion you can join on the fake news outlets like CNN. Some people like fake news provided by CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NYT, WaPo.... it feeds their conspiracies about Russia and comforts them as to why Hillary lost., so I am sure that type of fake news will always have an audience.
Please stop misrepresenting what is going on. It is not about Clinton losing, it is about a foreign power influencing an election to place a potential puppet in power. I could care less about Clinton, I didn't even vote for her. That's the usual misdirection: dredge up the Hildebeest. Like any propagandist, you sound like a broken record.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: JeremySun
Maybe you should be sued for libel, for calling her a liar. You can't prove that she lied.
I believe every women that came forward to back up Donald Trump's claim that he can grab and grope women without their consent, and news outlets had every right to tell those women's stories.
I can tell that you're another Trumpeteer that hates the Constitution and wants to fundamental change our 1st Amendment, as well as all the Amendments that your kinky Messiah intends to violate!
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: UKTruth
Trump's short video announcements were pretty good during the election and since. His 'first 100' days address was clear and direct.
Because it was read word for word from a teleprompter.
Making up things like 'Trump does not have the patience to actually produce a coherent video' makes you sound as if you are denying what has actually been provided already simply because you don't like Trump.
And constantly dodging the issue to accuse others of "not liking Trump" makes it sound like you have no other defense. Trump supporters criticized Clinton for not holding enough press conferences during the campaign, even though the press were welcome to travel with her. Trump has shut himself off from the press and went months without a press conference, and when he finally held, he brought props and a cheering gallery.
As for the fact checking media, fewer and fewer people care about left wing fact checkers.
Can you prove that broad statement with actual statistics? It's true that it is now possible for American citizens to cocoon themselves from real journalism, and subsist on a diet of lies if they so choose. There are people who think "exo-politics" is a real thing. (Were you surprised when the "ET channelers" started praising Vladimir Vladimirovich? I wasn't.)
They have been shown to determine accuracy based on political ideology and are therefore worthless.
You have it backwards: sometimes they base their ideology on what is accurate. Granted, we now see media like NBC starting to spin in Trump's favor, but that's because in a free media market, they can do that if they want. Freedom of expression guarantees that people can say what they want, even if they disagree with you. Other people's opinions are not "worthless." Of course, you need to have the ability to think critically, which some factions are trying to remove from school curricula. (This is not even a left-right issue, BTW.)
The idea that a FAKE NEWS outlet like CNN, for example, would have any credibility in fact checking is rather crazy,
I know: you think any news that is not approved by the Kremlin is FAKE NEWS. Your love of censorship and state control is disturbing.
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: JeremySun
Even if Russia helped Donald Trump with Podesta emails, it does not mean Donald Trump is a puppet of Russia.
No, that's where the blackmail comes in.
originally posted by: Tardacus
why shouldn`t he talk directly to the people, he works for the people, we the people don`t need an intermediary to tell us what the president said,complete with their own spin on it.
It's never been a problem before. There are claims of blackmail video material against Bill Clinton, allegations Obama slept with Rahm Emanuel and people know about it... loads of BS fake news stories. Lets just assume everyone is being blackmailed, right?
Your blackmail fantasies are shared by the fake news media, which is exactly why your new President is bypassing them.
Whatever dude, hillary lost.
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: UKTruth
It's never been a problem before. There are claims of blackmail video material against Bill Clinton, allegations Obama slept with Rahm Emanuel and people know about it... loads of BS fake news stories. Lets just assume everyone is being blackmailed, right?
Bill Clinton was actually confronted by his accusers. He was not blackmailed and weathered the storm. The allegations about Obama and Emanuel are just too bizarre. What Macedonian clickbait factory did you get that from? Yes; let's assume that everyone can potentially be blackmailed. Why do you keep pretending they can't be? The effectiveness of blackmail depends on its credibility: that may be one reason why the more lurid accusations in the dossier were not, erm, leaked.
It is easy to believe that Hillary Clinton had a lesbian affair. That might actually endear her to her base. It is reasonable to believe that Obama smoked marijuana in his youth. No big deal. It is a known fact that trump has run casinos and done business in Moscow and St. Petersburg. That makes any number of possile claims credible, some of which would completely compromise his position as President.
Your blackmail fantasies are shared by the fake news media, which is exactly why your new President is bypassing them.
Do you get a bonus every time you say "fake news?" The President is avoiding the media because he hates being called out on his lies.
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Plotus
At the moment, people have the right to counter what the media says with their own opinions. They are free to check the facts for themselves and criticize what the media says. If Donald Trump gets his way, no-one will be able to speak up against him. Take advantage of the First Amendment while you still have it.
originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Sillyolme
So Trump is the 4 year old?
What has he lied about?
originally posted by: angeldoll
originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Sillyolme
So Trump is the 4 year old?
What has he lied about?
Posing the question "what has he lied about" exemplifies the lengths some very (let's call them) "dedicated people" will go to disregard facts. He was a factless candidate, and this will be a factless Presidency. I say "Presidency", but that is in name only. He will be the CEO, and unaccustomed to having his remarks fact-checked, and unaccustomed to having his prolific infantile tantrums criticized. He's a caricature of a very bad leader, and an embarrassment to the country.
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: angeldoll
originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Sillyolme
So Trump is the 4 year old?
What has he lied about?
Posing the question "what has he lied about" exemplifies the lengths some very (let's call them) "dedicated people" will go to disregard facts. He was a factless candidate, and this will be a factless Presidency. I say "Presidency", but that is in name only. He will be the CEO, and unaccustomed to having his remarks fact-checked, and unaccustomed to having his prolific infantile tantrums criticized. He's a caricature of a very bad leader, and an embarrassment to the country.
Posting the kind of generalisation that you just posted exemplifies the lengths some very (let's call them) "dedicated people" will go to disregard reality.