Even if Russia helped Trump beat Hillary, it was fair and square

Trump and Hillary were political rivals in the election. A foreign state often sides with one faction against another faction in a domestic conflict. France helped Henry Tudor kill Richard III at the battle of Bosworth Field, and it was all fair and square.

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Nice to know you are fine with a foreign power interfering in the democratic process as long as your candidate wins.

Not sure that is how patriotism works, but you do you.

That`s what you call karma, the DNC brought bad karma upon themselves when they cheated Bernie.

originally posted by: Leonidas
Nice to know you are fine with a foreign power interfering in the democratic process as long as your candidate wins.

Not sure that is how patriotism works, but you do you.

France helped Americans in the revolution war against Britain, which British regarded as a civil war between the government and rebels. It was foreign intervention that helped America become a state.

Another example, Americans helped Cuba become a state when Cubans rose up against Spanish rule. That is also foreign intervention in a Spanish civil conflict.

a reply to: JeremySun

I just don't understand why no one gives Hillary the credit she deserves. She wrecked herself when she should have checked herself.

a reply to: JeremySun

Hillary Clinton helped Trump defeat Hillary Clinton, Russia comes a very distant 2nd place when it comes to Hillarys epic loss.

And it wasn't fair because she shafted Bernie and had CNN spreading disinformation - and with all that she still lost........to Donald Trump.

a reply to: Leonidas
Tit-for-tat. As long as the US Government interferes in other Governments, fair is fair. The US Government should set a better example for the world and quit trying to impose our "ideals" on others.

a reply to: JeremySun

Good intuition on your part, JeremySun! Your sentiments are similar to what I felt when starting this thread..
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a reply to: JeremySun

1776 was a revolution, not an election.

Are you ok with Russian interference in the election? Yes or no?

I agree the election was won by Trump fair and square.

I disagree if you're suggesting it's okay for Russia to hack DNC servers, release documents to wikileaks and flood the country with propaganda in an effort to sway the election.

a reply to: Sublimecraft

Obama helped Hillary Clinton help Trump defeat Hillary Clinton.

a reply to: Greggers

What's the difference where the propaganda comes from?

We have the right to vote for our favorite propaganda, or against the one we find most distasteful.

originally posted by: Leonidas
Nice to know you are fine with a foreign power interfering in the democratic process as long as your candidate wins.

Not sure that is how patriotism works, but you do you.

Obama gave a speech urging people to vote against Brexit. I really don't get the selective outrage. People are led to their outrage by their their noses.

originally posted by: Leonidas
Nice to know you are fine with a foreign power interfering in the democratic process as long as your candidate wins.

Not sure that is how patriotism works, but you do you.

I guess it's ok to you that Hillary took 20 million from the Saudi's and money from China, Qatar etc etc etc. Even Though Trump hasn't taken a dime from any country. You would have us believe Trumps guilty because Russians like him more than Hillary.

The MSM polls had Hillary winning right up until the vote tallies started to roll in on November 8th.

Now they're saying that the Russians were dragging her down for MONTHS before November 8th?

The American electorate is not gullible enough to believe what the MSM says any more. Right? RIGHT??? (crickets chirping)

originally posted by: Leonidas
a reply to: JeremySun



Are you ok with Russian interference in the election? Yes or no?

You have no way out of this.

Did the Russians have the ability to "hack" the election?

If no.... end of conversation.

If yes... then wouldn't it also be true that the Russians could have compromised Hillary's basement-server?

If yes.... Hillary has no business being in charge of state secrets, let alone being in charge of the nation.

Choose a path that you think you can defend.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Two totally different topics. Are you able to stay focused on the subject of the OP?

Do you think it is okay for Russia to interfere in the US election?

Stay on topic and give us a yes or no.


(For the record, I think it was wrong for the US to try and interfere with the Brexit vote. I am being consistent: Foreign Powers interfering in another sovereign state's democratic process is wrong.)

originally posted by: carewemust
The MSM polls had Hillary winning right up until the vote tallies started to roll in on November 8th.

Now they're saying that the Russians were dragging her down for MONTHS before November 8th?

The American electorate is not gullible enough to believe what the MSM says any more. Right? RIGHT??? (crickets chirping)

Final poll had Hillary up by 2.1 percent. She won by 2.1 percent.

www.realclearpolitics.com...