What is a Migraine

I get them from time to time. It's usually brought on by tension and poor diet.
If I worked really hard and used my upper body a lot and go home to even drink one beer I get this feeling that starts behind my left eye, then creeps to the back of my head just below where my skI'll ends and neck begins. And every time my heart beats it sends a throbbing pain in that area then throughout my head.

If I get them I am miserable.
Only way I can get rid of them is to take some mild pain killers with a can of coke and pull my head forward to the right, and keep it in that position for at least 15 minutes, this generally makes me just lay down with pillows propping my head and neck in that position.
Everyone is different I find, there is no one miracle cure for a migraine but a gentle massage in the area with some neck stretches does wonders.

I've had about 6 in my life time.

had one last Friday. my vision goes wonky first, than real aversion to movement, sound, light.

I think mine are hormonal.

Thank god..... i thought i was to open this thread and find out that there is MNB (Migraine Nano Bots) in my breakfast cereal....

great thread, cheers

My migraines disappeared when I started taking a multimineral pill. Some of my migraines were caused by sulfur not working right and causing a sulfite headache. Others were caused by eating highly processed foods, those would be the tyramine headaches. I also quit those at the same time, adjusting my diet to stop seizures. I get a dull headache from popcorn, a tablespoon of apple cider vinegar with some sugar and water takes care of that. Milk headaches disappear by eating a half a grapefruit or some fresh pineapple, or just take a bromelaine pill.

I can't get rid of the headaches from when the barimetric pressure changes really fast, like just before a storm. I also have not yet figured how to get away from headaches from going in and out of air conditioned areas, I just don't go in and out of them anymore and I do not have a problem.

a reply to: rickymouse

Yeah it seems like "modern" food does mess with some, what is your heritage?

originally posted by: tikbalang
a reply to: rickymouse

Yeah it seems like "modern" food does mess with some, what is your heritage?

I am pretty much all Finn. I have reduced COMT and MAOA enzymes which means I can't break down dopamine and some other neurotransmitters well. Avoiding aged food chemistry takes away a lot of my headaches. I get a headache from sauerkraut. That is not new chemistry, neither is some chinese foods and cheese.

The ummami chemistry gives me a headache, I also have a problem genetically with breaking down aldehydes, that is because of reduced molybdenum coenzyme deficiency. So my multimineral has a little of that and I avoid drinking alcohol unless I need the medical effects, I can break down the alcohol but am slow at breaking down the aldehydes the alcohol breaks down to. That is the cause of half of the hangovers people get. I used to get a hangover if I drank over three beers, so I made it worth it.

Thanks for the thread, but most will not really understand it, while thinking a "headache" is in relation to an actual migraine. It's frustrating as Hell whenever someone tells me they have a "migraine", mistakenly. Most of the time it's BS and just a bad headache. (in their case)

I've had them since I was 12, and I remember the first one. My pinky and my lip went numb simultaneously, and it moved to my throat and made me gag. At the same time, the numbness reached my thumb. My bro took me to the hospital and they were concerned that the "numbness" might reach my heart, so they kept me in the hospital. The numbness did finally pass, never went to my heart and subsequently caused a massive headache once the numbness passed.

Rarely, I still do get that type of "numb" migraine. But mostly now, mine start with blindness, or "aura" migraine. I can't see anything when this happens, it's something that happens quite often, and I get very disoriented. It's a true disruption of life.

Imagine looking through warped glass, then imagine it growing within your field of vision and lasting for about 30 minutes. If I am stressed during this time, it will repeat itself all day in 30 minute increments until I am able to lie down and relax for at least two hours. After that time period, the headache finally comes. When the headache finally comes, I am absolutely mentally relieved! Nothing is worse than being blind and disoriented IMO, or even numb, gagging because my throat is numb. It's #ing horrific.The headache at least means that nightmare has finally passed...

The headache that finally comes, will then last 24-48 hours. It really sucks, but I have given up hope in finding a doctor or a person that truly understands it. I am 40 this year, so it's been a long time.

a reply to: rickymouse

I do not believe that you or most posting in this thread have actually experienced a migraine. Maybe I'm wrong, but you're just talking about bad headaches, which is total dis-info concerning what a "migraine" is. I don't blame YOU, though.

I blame BS medical practitioners who have lumped this problem into a vast interpretation of what a bad "headache" is. BS!

a reply to: studio500

I do believe YOU have suffered from an actual migraine problem. I understand what you are dealing with, it's hard to sift through the BS and those who claim they are dealing with this, but I know you are, based on your symptoms. Please know you are not alone. It can be frustrating when people having bad headaches and stress headaches try to equate it as the same thing.

a reply to: rickymouse

I'm a visual person, do you have images?

originally posted by: tikbalang
a reply to: Bedlam

So how did you and ya little reptile get into that fight?

Ramp in the back.

originally posted by: Wookiep
a reply to: rickymouse

I do not believe that you or most posting in this thread have actually experienced a migraine. Maybe I'm wrong, but you're just talking about bad headaches, which is total dis-info concerning what a "migraine" is. I don't blame YOU, though.

I blame BS medical practitioners who have lumped this problem into a vast interpretation of what a bad "headache" is. BS!

Well, I have been told by medical professionals that some of my headaches were migraines. I asked which type and they said most of them. But they are all different types of headaches, they were not correct. I have been investigating them over the last seven years and have found that there are different causes for all of them, all have metabolic origination, all can be controlled by diet to a large extent. One type is probably comparable to what is claimed to be a migraine. That would be the sulfite allergy, sharp throbbing pains. The best way I can describe their possible cause is a headache caused by a deficiency in molybdenum coenzymes and an off balance in any one of the four different different food chemistries these enzymes contribute too. Too much nitrates cause a lowering of available sulfite neutralizing activity as does too much aldehydes which results in a headache similar to what they call a migraine with activity that possibly exactly matches what they talk about with pain caused by inflammation in the arteries and veins in the head. Too much sulfur or nitrogen chemistry can give that kind of action as can aldehyde consumption being too high

I am saying there are multiple things that when come together can cause what they refer to as a migraine.

I've had some really, really bad headache episodes. I'd say an average of once for 30 months for the past 40 years or so. I don't know if they fit the clinical definition of migraine or cluster but they are bad. Light makes it worse. Sound makes it worse. Lying down makes it worse. I turn off the lights and lean against a door jamb until exhaustion takes over then go to bed. I have a hunch it has to do with dehydration but can't be sure. Drinking water makes me puke when it's happening.

I also get ocular migraines pretty frequently but they don't hurt. They're just annoying.

a reply to: Phage

Relevant to your interests:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

1 per day and no more migraines says my mate.

Interesting thread, i have had one and i really hope i never have another, it was about a year ago, last thing i remember was laying in bed feeling like death and i woke up in hospital with a drip. I cannot remember the 5 hours or so i was delirious, and doesn't sit well with me, really leaves me with a feeling of vulnerability.

Not quite migraines, but when I used to get cluster headaches, the only thing that had even the smallest effect on the pain was 1000mg paracetamol with an anti emetic.

Taken early enough they'd sometimes stop an attack completely.

Other than that, enough codeine to let me sleep was the closest I got.

originally posted by: tikbalang
a reply to: rickymouse

I'm a visual person, do you have images?

Here is a good site on headaches, it shows a correlation between proper metabolism and headaches. Scroll down and look at the part about migraines. I found mine were helped by a multimineral tablet with about the RDA of molybdenum. It is not the molybdenum itself though, I think you need some of the other minerals in conjunction with it. Multivitamin/multimineral tablets don't work, some of the B vitamins have sulfur in them and that requires more molybdenum coenzymes to process them. At least that is what I have guessed is happening, I can't take a multivitamin/multimineral tablet more than once a week.

www.arltma.com...

I also have a little problem with using copper properly, when I started taking the multimineral tablet with a hundred fifty percent of RDA molybdenum, my eyes turned back to green and the brown outer ring area changed back to a dark green or blueish thin ring. My eyes were almost a hazel tan color for years, I thought they had permanently changed from the original green color I had when I was young. That is a sign of Wilson's disease, I do have some genetic markers for that but I feel growing up in the copper country actually had more to do with that. The water there used to be real high in copper. It came from the copper mines and the ground around our farm where we had our well was full of float copper chunks. I remember taking them out of the fields when my dad plowed, we brought them to my uncle and he cleaned them up and sold them at the rock and mineral shows.

a reply to: Phage
I can highly relate. The only way I could get my neurologist to understand how sensitive I am to light and sound when the headaches are really bad, was to explain that during that time, I feel like I can see in the dark and I can hear the air move.

Quiet and darkness helps, but lying down doesn't, unless I am down for the count. That is when I take the Benadryl. It makes me sleep. It does not always work. I might wake up with the same headache and have to make myself go to sleep again if the Zomig doesn't work.

It has been a rare occasion were between the Zomig and the Benadryl, that I have had to knock myself out more than twice in a row, but over the years I have had days that moved into weeks where I could not break the cycle. Narcotics don't work for me, they just make me sick.

I am truly sorry to hear that you have had this miserable experience. As I have said, I don't wish these kind of headaches on anyone.

a reply to: Wookiep

Wookiep, your sounds very much like Hemiplegic Migraine.

Did the numbness include tingling in the mouth and move slowly down your body?
Did it reach your hand too?

I have the aural form ever since elementary school (runs strongly in my family from both parents), developed a cluster form in my late 20's after a neck operation and finally after severe chronic pain in the left side/chest a new extremely prolonged version that has been diagnosed both opioid headache, tension headache and several others (=nobody knows really). Sometimes I might have a 2-3 week period without much hassle, on the other hand there are weeks when I have this constant "strong" headache that is impervious to all drugs tested and combine it with sudden "lightning attacks" that make me crawl on the bathroom floor or just lie there hoping to die or pass out. They can last anything from 40 minutes to 4 hours, usually combined with vomitting/nausea and stiffening of the whole "head and neck structure". I do take beta-blockers when it gets really bad but for the chronic form that lasts for days/weeks nothing works really. I have temgesic/panacod and similar that works for some types of migraines, but the cluster and prolonged versions seem to be immune. Sumatriptane -type of pills severely paralyze my breathing so they're not safe, also they literally give me an hour+ of NDE type feelings which is in its paranormal glory extremely distressing. (Cannot really describe it other way but to say I feel every cell in my body and how they "react" to each others by squeezing/electrical shocks/vibration etc. and the overall feeling is that you're experiencing "live dying" for one hour, feeling how every single cell in our body slowly dies)

I try to keep opioid free "weeks" here and there but been on buprenorphine -patches for several years, as our elected "government" has seen it rightful to deny me all natural remedies like cannabis, kratom or others which are known to help or I know to help personally (like cannabis).

I have super low blood pressure and heart rate naturally, currently low iron but the "normal form (aural)" of migraine lessened like 800% as soon as I became full vegan around my 17th birthday. (Been vegan for 20+ years now).

Triggers that I am sure of are dark chocolate (which I would love), strong cheese (which I love, of course..) and very high stress situation (mostly situation where I feel super mad, you can see literally the veins on my temples bulge 300% size and throb like crazy when the cluster type attack triggers..), milk fat in general and certain smells. Even thou I have the aural form, I have worked as a DJ for 15 years and I can stand strobes and loud music very well UNTIL the moment of attack, after which I cannot fathom a slightest bit of light and all sounds (even super quiet) become very metallic and skull crushingly loud.


I can totally relate with the "please kill me now" -feeling during migraine attacks, but sadly my chronic side/chest pain is the one causing me most agony and pain, so I would probably still get ONLY the migraines instead of the chronic pain as from the migraines I know they will subdue at SOME point.