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originally posted by: pirhanna
a reply to: Profusion
If thats how it works, then how did most peoples premiums greatly increase under obamacare?
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: Greggers
It makes me cringe to suggest it, but just nationalize healthcare and be done with it. The upside:
- no more gravy train for medical support. You know, the dead administrative weight that earns more than they should to underperform
- it takes the burden of paying for healthcare from me/you, to the government. So no matter what, at least we know what our rates will be next year and can plan for life somewhat
- it removes the politicizing of peoples health issues. I'd rather do anything than spend 4 more years debating health care while people parade an endless supply of sick and downtrodden across media for us to all gawk and gaze at.
- perhaps spending on healthcare will leave less money available for Uncle Sam to make war. That sounds like a double win to me
Sure, there are downsides. But I think they are diminutive in the face of the upside.
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: Abysha
I don't think personal responsibility is a step backwards.
One of the major delineating points between America and Europe is our disdain for our government. Im not really into the idea of nationalized healthcare. But I do have to admit I'd rather save American's than bomb muslims. So from the perspective of dollars well spent....
The true solution here is: restore the middle class and the value of the dollar. If the dollar wasn't rotting, and if there was a strong middle class, I don't think healthcare would be the issue it is today. But we've overempowered insurance companies, who've driven medical costs through the roof.
If we are going to create affordable healthcare, it would need to be through oversight of an industry. That didn't happen.
I started my prior post with "i hate to say it". I say that because I know there are better solutions that get ignored.
originally posted by: pirhanna
a reply to: Profusion
If thats how it works, then how did most peoples premiums greatly increase under obamacare?
Sure, nobody wants it to get even worse, but it just seems the insurance industry is pulling the wool over our eyes for like the 10th time.
originally posted by: Profusion
I hope they can at least get rid of the individual mandate and the employer mandate. If they don't even accomplish that, then I'm afraid we were all completely played for suckers.
originally posted by: pirhanna
a reply to: Profusion
If thats how it works, then how did most peoples premiums greatly increase under obamacare?
Sure, nobody wants it to get even worse, but it just seems the insurance industry is pulling the wool over our eyes for like the 10th time.