Edward VIIIth Abdication for Wallis Simpson 80 yrs ago

The peace of God to all that belong to the light,
Dear Readers,

December 10th 1936, a date that will live for ever in the anals of the British History, in the History of Empires and as a major topic of the Romantic Literature of all the times.

This is seen from today world as a Tale of love, but at that time it was a political scandal and sunk the British Empire in an embarrassing institutional crisis.

From January of 1936 when H.R.H. Prince David of Wales officially inherited the British Imperial Throne to June of 1937 When he married Wallis Simpson in France no longer as a monarch but as Duke and Duchess of Windsor, they were the most popular couple of the planet by far.

It seems, However, that this Abdication of an extremely popular King was more than just a Romantic tale.

Researchers have found this was the result of a very smart political conspiracy minded by the establishment, to preserve all the regime of social privileges of the nobility and the strict segregation of social classes that has defined the British society.

The real reason apparently was the concerns about a monarch to much close to the common people.

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The Duke of Windsor was not seen any more in England for other 15 years until February 1952 when his brother King George VIth died of cancer. Then he went back to London alone to attend the funeral of his brother asude of his family and pay respect to his niece and current Queen H.M. Elizabeth IInd.

Queen Mother Elizabeth as well as Queen Mary never accepted Wallis Simpson as their relative, and even in that sad family event remained cautiously quiet about to remove the ban over her.

It was until June 7th of 1967 30 years of ostracism ended by Wallis Ducheness of Windsor when the couple were invited to attend the unveiling of a memorial plate of Queen Mary in London.

What pushed The King of Britain to take a way the most powerful throne of earth for a twice divorced American socialite, the Pennsylvanian Wallis Simpson Spencer?

Was not Wallis Simpson Spencer suitable to be Queen of England? Does this means a twice divorced is not suitable to perform an office of a head of State?

Let's remember and analyze this unique story of love that marked definitively the XX century, at 8 decades of its occurrence and just days before Donald Trump , another Pennsylvanian, become the first twice divorced American to be sworn as President of the United States.

Thanks for your attention.

The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: The angel of light

(apologies, i seem to be responding to a few OP's tonight, unlike me. I'm either in a strange mood or the topics have piqued my interest)

Love? for sure, without a doubt ...... back in the day though Religion had a large part to play as well. As "Fidei Defensor, FD or FID DEF (which appears on every British coin) he wasn't allowed to marry a divorcee and continue in his role.

Much the same way i wasn't allowed to marry, for the second time, in church.

Makes you wonder what, if any, changes would have been to current history if, taking away the religious theme, he was allowed to take his place on the throne

ETA: Fidei Defensor, FD or FID DEF = Defender of the Faith (religion)

originally posted by: corblimeyguvnor
Makes you wonder what, if any, changes would have been to current history

He would have pushed for peace with Germany.

Hitler was disappointed he abdicated...

Hitler considered Edward to be friendly towards Nazi Germany and thought that Anglo-German relations could have been improved through Edward if it were not for the abdication. Albert Speer quoted Hitler directly: "I am certain through him permanent friendly relations could have been achieved. If he had stayed, everything would have been different. His abdication was a severe loss for us."[82]

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: corblimeyguvnor
Makes you wonder what, if any, changes would have been to current history

He would have

Sure, he would have been King ...... i think Parliament (The decision makers in our democracy) may have said otherwise, no telling, it didn't happen

ETA: Lets face it, Chamberlin, with his "Peace in our time" speech didn't cut too well, appeasement never worked during the Empire ....... we were still recognised as an Empire back in 39, that only changed after 45 and the debt solution

a reply to: The angel of light

I had made a thread asking a kind of silly question pertaining to the the British system . www.abovetopsecret.com... Being a Queen or King also makes them head of the Church ,kind of like a Pope . This marriage controversy may have actually been what was at play in your thread ...it was something that I was not able to unwind and though other members may have taken a interest in and been able to explain it all out ..the thread died a early death and so I still have a small twist in my gut about it .

a reply to: the2ofusr1

missed your OP, sorry .. would have commented. I have time (or lack thereof) on my side now

Time, as in being logged on here, lack thereof being somewhat different, i'm limited

originally posted by: The angel of light
Researchers have found this was the result of a very smart political conspiracy minded by the establishment, to preserve all the regime of social privileges of the nobility and the strict segregation of social classes that has defined the British society.

The real reason apparently was the concerns about a monarch to much close to the common people.

Edward VIII had a short reign because he chose to abdicate and marry Wallis Simpson, a divorcee. At the time in England remarriage after divorce was frowned upon, so the "common folk" would not have supported the marriage. It is historical fact backed up by official documents of the time. It was a match between the elected politicians and the Dominions who required a credible King. All credit to Edward for following his heart, but that's really it.

By that point in history the class structure in the UK was pretty much gone from any pretensions to ruling the land. The Great War was the nail in the coffin for the nobility as so many of the "upper class" were killed. Their was universal suffrage and the monarch was not able to influence political and and ministers.

The whole affair showed the pre-eminence of politicians over the monarch.

a reply to: paraphi

The great war as in WW1?

Funny, its not called Axis v Allies anymore ..... the Allies have changed their name to the new Politically Correct "Coalition" its not world anymore as its not great ..... go libs, the world is on fire and we piss around with words

a similar story played out with Princess Ann and Queen Elizabeth I believe. Ann wanted to marry someone, but the church rejected her choice. and the Queen went along with the church, defending the crown and forbade the marriage. Ann ended up marrying someone else.

a reply to: dawnstar
I'm not sure about Anne, but it's possible that what you are recalling is the story of the Queen's sister, Princess Margaret. The man she wanted to marry was the divorced Captain Townsend, and she ended up marrying Antony Armstrong-Jones instead.

originally posted by: corblimeyguvnor
a reply to: paraphi

The great war as in WW1?

Funny, its not called Axis v Allies anymore ..... the Allies have changed their name to the new Politically Correct "Coalition" its not world anymore as its not great ..... go libs, the world is on fire and we piss around with words

Eh? No it's not, I saw it for sale this Christmas under the usual name.