It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
originally posted by: intrptr
Fine, gonna have to wait for that to actually occur. How will we determine that 700 part time jobs were actually made full time...
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: intrptr
Making 700 temporary jobs into full time jobs is an increase in jobs. You do know the difference between temporary jobs and full time jobs?
I almost forgot the work they did, which is perhaps more pretinent to this topic, reducing the number of unemplyed people. After all, if you hold a 0 hours contract, even if you're not actually getting any work, you're still, technically, unemployed. There are other tactics they use to doctor figures in their favour, i'm sure. Don't get me wrong, I'm under no illusion that this is just a Tory trick. Every UK party does it (even the SNP, the party who currently has my support here in the UK) and we've seen similar tricks all over the world,
originally posted by: Tazkven
You guys are delusional, I am sorry to be the one to say it and burst those really large bubbles with very small hands.
First, I work for Ford, in Louisville where we have two plants. LAP is the Louisville Assembly Plant and KTP is the Kentucky Truck Plant. LAP builds the Escape and Lincoln MKV, KTP builds Super Duty, expedition ns Lincoln Navigator. LAP maintenance and engineers has been working on retooling for the MKV and KTP been retooling for the 2018 aluminum body navigator months before Trump made his ridiculous announcement. These Lincoln vehicles where never leaving our plants.
Second, Trumps "gift" of 7 million to carrier has not changed their plans, they are STILL building a plant in Mexico and they are STILL laying people off, the jobs that were "saved" where not going anywhere anyways. How in the heck you can claim thi as a victory for anything but corporate welfare is beyond me.
and third ... Trump taking credit for the DOW, wow, just wow. The Dow has been breaking records for 8 years now and suddenly you guys want to credit it to Trump although he has not done a damn thing yet. You know Trump needs to actually change some things because you know how you all keep saying the economy is broken and then see if it keeps going up to claim a victory. The whole trying to take credit for what Obama has done at the 99 yard line is some very, very deep bull# and cheering it on is even worse, you look like fools to anyone who can think critically. You are cheering on a guy, claiming to have helped his team win because he wore his lucky underwear to the game, give us a break ... really.
Now back to the OP, you do know that Ford just added 2000 jobs and 1.3 billion dollars at KTP last year? So I guess that was a "vote of confidence" for Obama then, right? LOL, you guys are so naive and gullible. It would be kind of cute, if your fanaticism was not reaching 4th Reich type levels. The truth is Trump cannot take credit for the jobs anyways, we ratified a contract with Ford on Nov. 20 2015 for 8,500 more American Jobs. Let me guess, you guys are going to believe that was all because of Trump too? LMAO, you guys ...
I just read that my old employer, The Ford Motor Company, has reversed their decision to build a $1.6 billion manufacturing plant in Mexico, opting instead to invest $700 million in a Michigan assembly line. I’d like to take a moment to congratulate Ford, its current employees, its future employees, the great state of Michigan, and of course, The United States of America. This is a big, fat victory for anyone who wants to see America get back to the business of making things. Now... Will Ford’s decision be politicized? Yup. Will Ford be accused of acting in their own self-interest? Yup. Will critics say Ford could do more, and criticize them for doing too little? Yup. Will the media overwhelm us with articles that explain why this is no big deal, and how Ford’s decision will ultimately result in no new jobs? Yup. Do me a favor – ignore these people. They don’t know how to feel good about anything other than feeling bad. They don’t understand the value of justifiable optimism - or it’s importance. Honestly, I don’t care what your politics are, or your opinion of NAFTA, The UAW, The New F-150, rich people, poor people, The Global Economy, or The President-Elect – this is good news, and sensible people should celebrate it. The company who invented mass production is once again betting on the future of America! What's the worst part about that? And if I’m reading this right, it's happening – at least in part – because of new “pro-growth policies, and a more positive manufacturing environment for US business.” fxn.ws... Couple years ago, I narrated a commercial for Walmart that announced their commitment to invest a quarter trillion dollars in US Manufacturing. That’s $250,000,000,000.00. That's a lot of zeros. The backlash was instantaneous. People with an axe to grind against Walmart were livid with me, and thousands came to this page to tell me personally they hoped that Walmart would fail. Why? Because some people hate Walmart more than they care about America. Some people can't see the bigger picture. Some people don't understand if companies like Walmart choose NOT to invest in this country, no one will. And they don’t realize the importance of other companies, following their example. Bottom line - we need more companies to do what Ford just did. We need to support decisions like this one. And most of all, we need more policies that reward the kind of behavior we want to encourage. I hope we get them, soon. My only question now is... who’s next? Mike
Capping a disappointing holiday season, Macy's (M) will eliminate more than 4,500 positions as part of a restructuring plan to turn around the department store's slumping sales
originally posted by: YouSir
a reply to: IAMTAT
Ummm...the following quote is laughable..."However, he stressed Ford did not do any sort of special deal with Trump. "We didn't cut a deal with Trump. We did it for our business."
They didn't do any sort of special deal...no...perhaps not...They did however...do the math...on the 35% tax per item shipped back to the US from their outsourcing penchant...
YouSir
originally posted by: DeathShield
originally posted by: Tazkven
You guys are delusional, I am sorry to be the one to say it and burst those really large bubbles with very small hands.
First, I work for Ford, in Louisville where we have two plants. LAP is the Louisville Assembly Plant and KTP is the Kentucky Truck Plant. LAP builds the Escape and Lincoln MKV, KTP builds Super Duty, expedition ns Lincoln Navigator. LAP maintenance and engineers has been working on retooling for the MKV and KTP been retooling for the 2018 aluminum body navigator months before Trump made his ridiculous announcement. These Lincoln vehicles where never leaving our plants.
Second, Trumps "gift" of 7 million to carrier has not changed their plans, they are STILL building a plant in Mexico and they are STILL laying people off, the jobs that were "saved" where not going anywhere anyways. How in the heck you can claim thi as a victory for anything but corporate welfare is beyond me.
and third ... Trump taking credit for the DOW, wow, just wow. The Dow has been breaking records for 8 years now and suddenly you guys want to credit it to Trump although he has not done a damn thing yet. You know Trump needs to actually change some things because you know how you all keep saying the economy is broken and then see if it keeps going up to claim a victory. The whole trying to take credit for what Obama has done at the 99 yard line is some very, very deep bull# and cheering it on is even worse, you look like fools to anyone who can think critically. You are cheering on a guy, claiming to have helped his team win because he wore his lucky underwear to the game, give us a break ... really.
Now back to the OP, you do know that Ford just added 2000 jobs and 1.3 billion dollars at KTP last year? So I guess that was a "vote of confidence" for Obama then, right? LOL, you guys are so naive and gullible. It would be kind of cute, if your fanaticism was not reaching 4th Reich type levels. The truth is Trump cannot take credit for the jobs anyways, we ratified a contract with Ford on Nov. 20 2015 for 8,500 more American Jobs. Let me guess, you guys are going to believe that was all because of Trump too? LMAO, you guys ...
That is a very compelling argument, and informative.
Can you provide some more sources though?
While i often find myself on the right-wing, and do not wish to discount your own experience and intelligence, you really lost me at the end. I'm disappointed TBH since it was a pretty good rebuttal up until the last 3 paragraphs. Still, i can tell this hits a deep nerve with you, and for an arguably-good reason. Were i in your shoes i would probably have an identical sentiment.
Im not trying to grill you here ( though admittedly, that seems to be the case) I dont want to throw the baby out, yknow? I am genuinely interested in your stance, as a person within the industry.