Top 10 establishment-media cover-ups of 2016

originally posted by: filthyphilanthropist
a reply to: seasonal

The one that stuck out most to me is the Democrats rigging the primaries to make certain Bernie lost. If a political party that divided amongst themselves, then how can they ever stand firm? Also, if they're willing to do that to their own (candidate and constituents), then how can I ever expect them to be a party for the whole country???

As a liberal, I agree such behavior was abhorrent on the part of the DNC. They DID corruptly skew everything for Hillary.

BUT, don't make the mistake in believing the Republican Party is better, nor "for you" and the rest of the country. Their policies and behavior is not.

a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

We voters are an inconvenience that needs to be courted 8 or 9 months before elections. Then forgotten about and let the lobby money roll in shaping and morphing laws, treaties and regulations (the ACA comes to mind).

So what blame does the GOP congress get for not raising taxes to counter the spending they voted for?

a reply to: Pyle

All of it, they suck, the Dems suck too.

I guess we will see if Trump sucks.

originally posted by: Pyle
So what blame does the GOP congress get for not raising taxes to counter the spending they voted for?

The Republican Congress has actually lowered the spending gap (the year to year deficit).

However, the Administration regulations over-spending has not been controlled enough.

a reply to: xuenchen

Putting a band-aid on a arterial bleed isn't saving anyone's life.

a reply to: seasonal

He had a bully pulpit.

He also had since 2006 a super majority of Democrats in the house and senate... veto-proof. He couldn't do jack. Progressive liberals didn't want the party to stop... hell, they need it to go on until the whole thing burns down so they can offer a solution.

He also had people burning him in effigy, hanging him in effigy, cutting his head off in effigy while the left and the MSM stoked the anti-war fires to a fever pitch.

Same ones that went home and didn't peep while Obama kept the troops out and droned anyone he wanted.

Feel free to feel right, if that's what you need to sleep at night.

I agree with lot of your posts. But here you're just wrong.

That you have me defend "W" just makes ill.

But at the end of the day there wasn't a damn thing he could do and if you were being intellectually honest you would agree.

a reply to: GreyScale

I think you mean he didn't do jack. He could of used the bully pulpit and had the phone lines melt to the lawmakers. That is what a person who is concerned would have done. It was his duty to use that pulpit, he didn't. Makes me wonder why.

In 2014 I had the pleasure of listening to him speak for an hour and 1/2 at a private speech. He said he didn't want to give those bastards (banks/wallstreet) any money. He had to go with the info that he and his advisors had. He made no apologies, and to a point I get it. But there was more that he COULD have did.

Funny, at 45 minutes the guys who paid for the speech asked him if he wanted to wrap it up, and he said no, I'm just going back to the hotel anyway, so he was off talking for another 45 minutes. Smart as a whip and very very "normal".

He also had since 2006 a super majority of Democrats in the house and senate... veto-proof. He couldn't do jack. Progressive liberals didn't want the party to stop... hell, they need it to go on until the whole thing burns down so they can offer a solution.

a reply to: seasonal

I'm going to agree to disagree with you because of the topic? Bush? Blah. Ran as a conservative, came out of the gates as a Progressive. Never liked him. I just think he couldn't have done anything anyways on the topic.

I've 20 something people in the house right now celebrating and it's my Montana property so we're going to go outside and blow a lot of stuff up and drink really way too much and play with 4x4 trucks in the snow and hope against hope at the campfire at midnight that next year is better for all of us than the last one.

I hope it's better for you too.

Happy New Years.

a reply to: GreyScale

Enjoy. Thanks for the respectful conversation. I respect your comments- be safe.

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14

originally posted by: filthyphilanthropist
a reply to: seasonal

The one that stuck out most to me is the Democrats rigging the primaries to make certain Bernie lost. If a political party that divided amongst themselves, then how can they ever stand firm? Also, if they're willing to do that to their own (candidate and constituents), then how can I ever expect them to be a party for the whole country???

As a liberal, I agree such behavior was abhorrent on the part of the DNC. They DID corruptly skew everything for Hillary.

BUT, don't make the mistake in believing the Republican Party is better, nor "for you" and the rest of the country. Their policies and behavior is not.

Not in the slightest. You may be a liberal, and I may fall more in line with some kind of conservatism, but you and I are in complete agreement.

a reply to: filthyphilanthropist

HRC and the DNC were ready to do anything, and I do mean anything to get the POTUS heavy weight belt. I can't think of any twisted or illegal thing that she wouldn't have done, not one.

Sad.

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: filthyphilanthropist

HRC and the DNC were ready to do anything, and I do mean anything to get the POTUS heavy weight belt. I can't think of any twisted or illegal thing that she wouldn't have done, not one.

Sad.

Yeah, I guess we still have more to see from the Dems and HRC. Do you think they have anything left up their sleeves to try and give Trump the boot? I don't necessarily mean anything legal.

a reply to: filthyphilanthropist

Oh Obama is going to keep stirring "the police acted stupidly" pot.

The only thing that will stop the Clintons is age. But there is a daughter warming up in the bull pen.

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: filthyphilanthropist

Oh Obama is going to keep stirring "the police acted stupidly" pot.

The only thing that will stop the Clintons is age. But there is a daughter warming up in the bull pen.

Didn't Hillary Jr. blow the whistle on some issues with the Clinton foundation, or is that just a faulty memory at work? Rather, do you think she'll follow in suit with her parents?

originally posted by: filthyphilanthropist

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14

originally posted by: filthyphilanthropist
a reply to: seasonal

The one that stuck out most to me is the Democrats rigging the primaries to make certain Bernie lost. If a political party that divided amongst themselves, then how can they ever stand firm? Also, if they're willing to do that to their own (candidate and constituents), then how can I ever expect them to be a party for the whole country???

As a liberal, I agree such behavior was abhorrent on the part of the DNC. They DID corruptly skew everything for Hillary.

BUT, don't make the mistake in believing the Republican Party is better, nor "for you" and the rest of the country. Their policies and behavior is not.

Not in the slightest. You may be a liberal, and I may fall more in line with some kind of conservatism, but you and I are in complete agreement.

Fair enough. It's so important for us to reach across the aisle and get past hyper partisanship. If there is one thing reading alternative media has taught me, it's that my beloved progressive group, and the democrats, are far from blameless. Prior to these investigations I labored under the delusion, like many mainstream liberals, that it was just the conservatives or republicans.