Religion, what a farce it is.

a reply to: Josephus

Are you a sheep?

originally posted by: tikbalang
a reply to: Woodcarver

No, you made a statement of proving something with Science, I asked verify..
Science proved and disapproved everything I made in my first comment, if you find that me saying ;" Your purpose in life is meaningless and that religion offers a meaning out of the context of our natural environment " to be unscientific, I'm all ears to what your Science tells you..

We have technology. Warm houses in the winter, cool houses in the summer, computers, cell phones, better medicine, safer streets, airplanes, submarines, spaceships....etc, etc.

What has christianity proven? Or any religion? If you can name one thing, you'd be the most famous person in the world. The guy who proves ghosts are real, will be the second most famous person. The trick is, that if any of that is proven, it will have been done with science. Not religion.

Agree 100%. Religion is a farce.

Gods were created by man to fill the gaps in human knowledge and I don't think this is disputable. Primitive humans did not understand the world we live in, but wanted explanations, so they invented a god for everything. That's why all of the early myths were mostly polytheistic. Sun god, rain god, harvest god, lightning god, fertility god, moon god etc. Eventually all of these gods were condensed into one because they were unrealistic and man had a better idea of the world. The problem is the average person likes to have hope and likes to have the comfort of being created by a divine being, life after death, etc, so they created the new monotheistic god to replace all of the old gods and give humans a divine purpose.

Eventually the older gods were forgotten and deemed ridiculous as we began to understand the real causes for all of the previously unknown things. Then came evolution. Evolution pretty much knocked the biblical creation story on its ass and closed yet another gap where god was used to explain something that was previously not understood. Just like how understanding rain, the sun and lightning falsified Zeus, Ra and Poseidon, evolution has falsified Jehova/Allah/Yahweh. Man-made gods have been going from "fact" to myth all throughout history, and this is a trend that is not stopping anytime soon.

In a few hundred years, we will likely look at allah/yahweh the same way people look at Ra and Zeus today, and rightfully so. It's just funny how modern monotheists will tell you the idea of Zeus is ridiculous, but when it comes to their god they can't even comprehend it being wrong despite the same historic trends and dogma that is demonstrably false. How do people not see this?

a reply to: Woodcarver

Religion offered a sanctuary of laws, regulations, institutions in the form of a simple concept..

Ive seen mainly assumptions and opinions coming from your statements, and not really any facts behind them..
The parables in the bible are philosophical in its meaning, doesnt mean you have to believe in them.

Atheism is disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

Its still a concept in the same paradigm.
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a reply to: BlackProject

If religion is a farce, and not just a way of life for people of faith who hope not to die when they die, and has nothing to offer:

Then life is a meaningless farce.

Who wants to live with that thought?

I think people would be surprised how many scientists were inspired by religious literature, Tesla with the Bible, the theory that everything began with a single point that contained everything in the beginning, like a seed, was theorized by Basilides in what sounds exactly like the Bib Bang theory without the Bang.

But if we are this now, from a seed, the next logical step is that the seed emanated all that is.

This was in the second century.

don`t confuse religion with god or spirituality, god had nothing to do with creating religion, religion is manmade and like everything made by man it is subject to corruption and flaws.

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: tikbalang
a reply to: Woodcarver

No, you made a statement of proving something with Science, I asked verify..
Science proved and disapproved everything I made in my first comment, if you find that me saying ;" Your purpose in life is meaningless and that religion offers a meaning out of the context of our natural environment " to be unscientific, I'm all ears to what your Science tells you..

We have technology. Warm houses in the winter, cool houses in the summer, computers, cell phones, better medicine, safer streets, airplanes, submarines, spaceships....etc, etc.

What has christianity proven? Or any religion? If you can name one thing, you'd be the most famous person in the world. The guy who proves ghosts are real, will be the second most famous person. The trick is, that if any of that is proven, it will have been done with science. Not religion.

Yeah, we have all that, but why do we have all that
Why are we not part of the animal kingdom, kill an be killed, no morals, no laws.

Because?

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: tikbalang
a reply to: Woodcarver

No, you made a statement of proving something with Science, I asked verify..
Science proved and disapproved everything I made in my first comment, if you find that me saying ;" Your purpose in life is meaningless and that religion offers a meaning out of the context of our natural environment " to be unscientific, I'm all ears to what your Science tells you..

We have technology. Warm houses in the winter, cool houses in the summer, computers, cell phones, better medicine, safer streets, airplanes, submarines, spaceships....etc, etc.

What has christianity proven? Or any religion? If you can name one thing, you'd be the most famous person in the world. The guy who proves ghosts are real, will be the second most famous person. The trick is, that if any of that is proven, it will have been done with science. Not religion.

Yeah, we have all that, but why do we have all that
Why are we not part of the animal kingdom, kill an be killed, no morals, no laws.

Because?

that would be evolution baby. Early hominids started cooking meat. This gave them a nutritional advantage which meant more time cultivating social ties. This lead to early civilizations and languages and writing. Writing gave us the opportunity to pass down knowledge. As our base of knowledge grew we built upon it more and more. Now we have space ships. No gods needed.

a reply to: Woodcarver

I can show you evolution, and society has very little to do with evolution. So they started cooking food so they got a nutritional advantage? I thought fermentation with salt was the first, and that fire kept the wild animals outside of the caves and simple huts.

Still many assumptions flying around

originally posted by: tikbalang
a reply to: Woodcarver

I can show you evolution, and society has very little to do with evolution. So they started cooking food so they got a nutritional advantage? I thought fermentation with salt was the first, and that fire kept the wild animals outside of the caves and simple huts.

Still many assumptions flying around

Lol. These aren't assumptions. And society has everything to do with evolution. And so does our technology.

a reply to: Woodcarver

How did it form? From tribal to society?

originally posted by: tikbalang
a reply to: Woodcarver

How did it form? From tribal to society?

How did what form?

a reply to: Woodcarver

Cooking meat, that's silly
Vegetarians are more healthy than carnivores, cooked or raw

I have never heard such rubbish, ever, baby

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: Woodcarver

Cooking meat, that's silly
Vegetarians are more healthy than carnivores, cooked or raw

I have never heard such rubbish, ever, baby

Meat is far more nutritious than a vegetable only diet and cooking meat breaks down those nutrients and make it easier for our bodies to get the most nutrients from the material. Look it up before you make claims that are easily disproven. It is about nutrition. Meat has nutrients and vitamins that you won't find in any vegetables. Cooking that meat increases the bodies ability to take it in.

authoritynutrition.com...

Meat is absolutely critical to maintain a healthy body



authoritynutrition.com...

While a healthy vegetarian diet that includes a variety of different foods can provide all of the nutrients you need, a diet consisting of only vegetables doesn't. Vegetables don't contain sufficient amounts of certain vitamins and minerals, including vitamin B-12 and vitamin D. You need to consume a wider variety of foods to get the recommended amount of essential omega-3 fats and all of the necessary amino acids.

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originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: Woodcarver

Cooking meat, that's silly
Vegetarians are more healthy than carnivores, cooked or raw

I have never heard such rubbish, ever, baby

that's because you don't believe in science and you don't read books. www.livescience.com...

Eating meat and cooking food made us human, the studies suggest, enabling the brains of our prehuman ancestors to grow dramatically over a period of a few million years.

all of the knowledge in the world is at your fingertips and you all want to make up a nice safe fantasy world where you are center stage for billions of imaginary gods. (your own ego)

+90% of the populace believes in a higher power. Yet you start a thread with no substance and expect to be taken seriously?

originally posted by: GnosticusMaximus
a reply to: BlackProject

If religion is a farce, and not just a way of life for people of faith who hope not to die when they die, and has nothing to offer:

Then life is a meaningless farce.

Who wants to live with that thought?

Why is life meaningless unless certain aspects of it are forever?? Just because something isn't meaningful for all time doesn't mean it's not meaningful at all.

originally posted by: Tempter
+90% of the populace believes in a higher power. Yet you start a thread with no substance and expect to be taken seriously?

If you minus out those who don't really believe but say they do and like to believe that they believe the percentage is a lot lower.

Then out of that separate out into groups those who believe in radically different types of a higher power too because just saying higher power isn't the same as belief in God or some type of Religious belief.

Plus, even without all that, whether or not something is true isn't determined simply by how many people believe it. You can have 100% of people believing something is true and it can still be factually untrue.

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: Woodcarver

Cooking meat, that's silly
Vegetarians are more healthy than carnivores, cooked or raw

I have never heard such rubbish, ever, baby

that's because you don't believe in science and you don't read books. www.livescience.com...

Eating meat and cooking food made us human, the studies suggest, enabling the brains of our prehuman ancestors to grow dramatically over a period of a few million years.

all of the knowledge in the world is at your fingertips and you all want to make up a nice safe fantasy world where you are center stage for billions of imaginary gods. (your own ego)

Oh no
I love science, real science
Just not stupid science based on kiss my superior ass...umption, because some boffins say "I am a scientist and you a believer in my words." Yours woody is Almost Catholic devotion to the pope you worship a scientist?

Can you notice that the piece you quoted states very clearly the word " suggests"?
That means some gonzo is just guessing, don't call what is a belief a science, read faith as science

All the knowledge in the world is just hearsay to a suggestion and you are devoted to it, pathetic argument, yours IS A RELIGION