At Least 14 US Coalition Military Officers Captured by Syrian Special Forces in East Aleppo Bunker

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: intrptr

Its linked in the op.

Roger dodger, you stated it was fake, I meant sources for that.

Like I thought.

a reply to: SgtEsquire

See, heres the thing.

If you cannot trust your government to only collaborate with people who are trustworthy themselves, that should tell you that you cannot trust the narrative supported by your government. They have, after all, seen fit to legalise propaganda campaigns against the people of the United States, and by extension their allies, including the UK, Europe, and others.

Therefore, it is reasonable to suggest that things under Assad may not be quite what they appear in the media, or indeed quite what you are told by press releases from the White House, or for that matter, other national governments, the UN, and others. For example, those members of the security council which tried to have Assad bought up on charges... do you know for certain, without doubt, that they were not under the influence of things other than truth and justice? Because I can tell you, after paying fastidious attention to matters geopolitical over the majority of my life, that I cannot trust that a single key player, other than perhaps Russia, and I do mean PERHAPS Russia, has remained unswayed by US interference. That interference, as we know from the previous behaviour of the US government toward nations in South America and more recently, in the Middle East, has been extensive, unwarranted, and out of proportion by several orders of magnitude.

I do not trust that the influence the US has no doubt used, has been used for the interests of truth and justice, any more than I believe its police have been militarised to promote law and order. It simply cannot be taken on face value, and because it as a nation has HUGE reach and power, nor can the utterly bizarre behaviours of its allies, including NATO and the UN. In short, Assad does not need to go, unless the worlds population agrees that he does, having seen evidence of his wrongdoing, OUTSIDE of a warzone he did not create, such as the one he is in the middle of.

When we see the US climb down its payoffs to their proxies in the region, when the militias and "rebels" run dry of ammunition and leave, or melt back into society, and there are STILL barrel bombs dropping, STILL reports of indiscriminate executions, from sources that we KNOW have nothing to do with the US or any one of its allies, THEN perhaps, we can trust that Assad is the monster we have been told he is. Until then however, I would call it a fools mission to believe even one tenth of anything that gets said against him, or against anyone the US has been to war with in the last three decades at the very least.

a reply to: TrueBrit

The agenda was never against Assad, the agenda has always been profit for the few, and that has stemmed right through from Iraq to Syria. The tactics are clear and 'the few' do not care who they're arming or dealing with, or how many die, or what countries get destroyed in the process. It's about oil, arms, money & greed, pure & simple

Earlier in December, SF already noted that the US desperate attempts to push a “diplomatic solution” in Aleppo could indicate that the Obama administration stalling for time to extricate US mercenaries and special service members from the Aleppo pocket.

Considering that US-led coalition military advisers have been widely operating across Syria, training and assisting to the so-called “moderate opposition” openly linked with al-Qaeda, the recently appeared reports are likely true.

For instance, British military advisers have officially arrived to Syria to restore combat capability of the ‘moderate’ opposition, retreated from Aleppo:

British military advisers have arrived to Syria in order to restore combat capability of units of the ‘moderate’ opposition, retreated from Aleppo, the Izvestiya newspaper reported, citing a statement of UK Defense Minister Michael Fallon. According to Fallon, 20 British military instructors, who will train the opposition forces, involved in the fight against the Islamic State (IS) terrorist group, have already arrived at the destination.

Global Research

Seymore Hersh reported on the sarin gas and stingers a while ago but the article was "banned" in the US.

However, now, for the first time, Hersh has implicated Hillary Clinton directly in this «rat line». In an interview with Alternet.org, Hersh was asked about the then-US-Secretary-of-State’s role in the Benghazi Libya US consulate’s operation to collect weapons from Libyan stockpiles and send them through Turkey into Syria for a set-up sarin-gas attack, to be blamed on Assad in order to ‘justify’ the US invading Syria, as the US had invaded Libya to eliminate Gaddafi. Hersh said: «That ambassador who was killed, he was known as a guy, from what I understand, as somebody, who would not get in the way of the CIA. As I wrote, on the day of the mission he was meeting with the CIA base chief and the shipping company. He was certainly involved, aware and witting of everything that was going on. And there’s no way somebody in that sensitive of a position is not talking to the boss, by some channel».

This was, in fact, the Syrian part of the State Department’s Libyan operation, Obama’s operation to set up an excuse for the US doing in Syria what they had already done in Libya.

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www.strategic-culture.org...

Syrian ambassador to UN Bashar Al-Ja’afari has confirmed this story, saying "they were trying to escape with the terrorists". He also added more on the terrorists burning the refugee buses, saying "25 buses were burned, 3 drivers were killed and more taken hostage (22)".

Interesting to note also, he says that the 14 will be presented and shown, adding that the latest resolution was an attempt by the West at getting these 'agents' out

a reply to: intrptr

and I told you where to find the fake article... in the op thread. I point that out because the op article doesnt support the lie its pushing. I also pointed out the other false story put out by the same people usding the same story line except in that lie people died from a russian airstrike.

If you arent intelligent enough to research and see the op source for what it is, propaganda, meh never mind.

a reply to: the2ofusr1

It is Voltaire.net. They have been making up fake non-sense like this for years.

originally posted by: intrptr

Anybody remember this story?

Global Research

Who would have thunk it?

Yes it was yet another fake news story. The question is why do you and others fall for them? It is a made up story just the same as the one created by Voltaire website.

originally posted by: Nikola014
a reply to: Cobaltic1978

There were never moderate rebels.

It was always Al Nusra and ISIS.

If I recall correctly, moderate rebel means moderate Islamist. Difference between the two would be that the moderates do not kill civilians to achieve caliphate but the radicals do.

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: tommyjo

originally posted by: intrptr

Anybody remember this story?

Global Research

Who would have thunk it?

Yes it was yet another fake news story. The question is why do you and others fall for them? It is a made up story just the same as the one created by Voltaire website.

You and excalibur have to repeat that a lot before I'll 'just believe it'. But don't bother, I know when you guys reply "fake" to every post in these threads, more than likely means its true.

The ats political damage control crew, in formation.

LOL! You don't even realize when you are being played. Why can't you understand that these are invented stories for a reason? They are created in order to gain hits on websites or simply to push a propaganda agenda.

It is a mindset for some of these armchair conspiracy loons that create these stories. The question is why do you fall for them?

Did you also believe all the NATO losses in Yugoslavia during 1999? Can you not see that these are fabricated stories designed for the gullible and naive to fall for?

Losses of US and other NATO ground force personnel, inside Serbia, have also been extensive. A Yugoslav Army unit ambushed a squad climbing a ravine south of Pristina, killing 20 men. When the black tape was taken from their dog-tags it was found that 12 were US Green Berets; eight were British special forces (presumably Special Air Service/SAS). This incident apparently occurred within a week or so of the bombing campaign launch. It is known that other US and other NATO casualties have, on some occasions, been retrieved by NATO forces after being hit inside Yugoslavia. At least 30 bodies of US servicemen have been processed through Athens, after being transported from the combat zone. At least two of the helicopters downed by the Yugoslavs were carrying troops, and in these two a total of 50 men were believed to have been killed, most of them (but not all) of US origin. Certainly, the US has lost to ground fire and malfunction a number of Tomahawk Cruise Missiles. At least some of these have been retrieved more or less intact, and the technology has been immediately reviewed by Yugoslav engineers. More than one told this writer that the technology was now readily able to be replicated in Yugoslavia.

Link

How about Libya during 2011?

82nd Airborne Downed in Libya 82nd Airborne at Ras Lanuf – Over 380 Casualties

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a reply to: tommyjo

LOL! You don't even realize when you are being played.

Yes I do, right now, by you.

NATO is bombing Syria secretly from bases in Turkey, Jordan and Iraq, US and French carriers are off the coast in the mediterranean, hundreds of Special Forces are in country, sophisticated weapons from US and NATO arsenals are in the hands of the insurgents and the phrase "Assad must go" is still the operative meme.

Now tell me more BS...

a reply to: intrptr

If you want more BS then I refer you to your own comment about NATO secretly bombing Syria. NATO is NOT involved in syria and no amount of lies will change that fact.

But keep defending the propaganda.. its funny and sad too watch all at the same time. Even after being shown facts the info is a lie you still defend it.

a reply to: Xcathdra


The UN have just confirmed the News the OP delivered. And aslo the names of all the People captured.

originally posted by: spy66
a reply to: Xcathdra


The UN have just confirmed the News the OP delivered. And aslo the names of all the People captured.

link please.

there is nothing from UN News on it.
www.un.org...

a reply to: intrptr

LOL! NATO isn't bombing anything in Syria. That is why I stated earlier about the mindset. You are failing to understand that NATO forces would have to be assigned that mission. For example NATO forces assigned to Afghanistan. Just because a country is a member of NATO doesn't mean that those forces are deployed as part of a NATO mission. I served 22 years in an RAF unit which was never assigned to NATO. You are failing to understand that just because a NATO member deploys forces in combat that they are in combat under a NATO mandate. Why is this so hard for you to understand? NATO countries also took part during 1991 in Iraq. Using your flawed logic you will be claiming that Iraq 1991 was a "NATO mission". Why can't you understand that NATO countries can deploy combat forces completely outside of NATO?

You need to believe and that is why you fall for fabricated stories. As I stated earlier it is a mindset and you desperately need to believe.

How easily did you fall for the convoy video that you believed was filmed crossing the Iraqi border into Syria?

You fell hook line and sinker for a fabricated story. Someone had degraded the footage and labelled it "United States Apache attack helicopter following behind ISIS convoy into Syria from Iraq"

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Here is the original footage. Filmed during 2014 and shows Libyan National Forces being escorted by their own Hind helicopter.



Ripped off from Libyan Government Forces YT Channel

www.youtube.com...

You are doing the same for these recently fabricated stories. The question still stands as to why you are so easily taken in by them?

So what do you think will happen next? Are you patiently waiting for Syria to parade these named people and for the likes of Russia Today to report on it?

What excuse will you come up with when the story doesn't go anywhere? Will it be claims of secret deals with Russia and Syria? The mind boggles!

a reply to: tommyjo

It would be like saying the UN invaded Ukraine because Russia is a UN member.

Also thank you for your service.

originally posted by: spy66
a reply to: Xcathdra


The UN have just confirmed the News the OP delivered. And aslo the names of all the People captured.

Shhh... it never happened. Even_if_it_did. lulz

a reply to: tommyjo

Still playin, NATO lost in Syria, meh.