There’s some serious political drama in North Carolina right now.

originally posted by: Gothmog
"To know your enemy , become your enemy" -Tsun Zu

Im really cool with the Art of War, but Im not going to wear tacky pants suits and take up with an utterly homely as hell Pakistani ( by fathers side.. india in the 40's.. ) gal to get into the mind of my enemy. Nope. Not gonna do it..

a reply to: Pyle

Although I understand why "they" do these things..... to keep as many of their donors/handlers happy as possible in the next cycle.... I find it remarkably, incredibly disrespectful to the electorate. 'The People' voted for a new direction. Plain and simple. The only reason there are a few months between election day and swearing in is because it takes time to transition. That should NOT be misconstrued as people still want the losers of the election to accelerate whatever it is they were up to.

And let me be clear.... this is NOT just about GOP in NC.... it's the same way I feel about Obama trying push his things through (without Congress, of course) at the last few moments of his presidency.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: roadgravel
Reps don't gerrymander? Yeah, right.

The Republicans are known for gerrymandering. Last month the Wisconsin SC ruled that the Republican's push to redistrict that was passed in 2012 was unconstitutional.

Despite having a majority of the votes, Democrats were only able to snag much less than half the state seats, while Republicans had less votes and picked up almost twice as many seats.

Such a simple solution too. Write an algorithm to specifically create districts to most evenly distribute population among districts while maximizing geographic proximity. Degerrymandered and converted to logic. Done.

a reply to: Blaine91555

I'd never be at your throat, Blaine.

You Alaskans are all a little nuts.

a reply to: LifeMode

Didn't say they didn't have a right to be as dirty as they want to be-also didn't say they couldn't have the KKK. So your point is?
they are still what they are-but offering some thoughts-morality? Guess it depends on if you are on the ruling side, as usual.

KKK-moral? Everyone has a right to their opinion-until someone gets hurt-right?

a reply to: Swills

Good to hear. Proves the KKK is still there though. The good people of NC just didn't want everyone to know what they were up to. Not a good thing to be known for-kind of like it to be clandestine-but it's there.

originally posted by: schuyler
In other words, business as usual. Now let's talk about gerrymandering, a tool used throughout the US to ensure more Dems are elected to office by stacking the decks in forming legislative districts to ensure a Democratic majority.

If the Dems are doing the gerrymandering I wish they would stop because it seems like the Republicans are winning everything.

a reply to: 38181

If your white, you send your kids to private school, if your black you send your kids to public school, legal segregation.

Thank you for confirming the real reason nowadays for the charter schools movement.

ETA a reply to: Pyle

I had heard something about this on the news today, so I'm glad you made a thread here. Getting more input from this thread.

originally posted by: Gothmog
"To know your enemy , become your enemy" -Tsun Zu

HA! When the Dems start acting like the Republicans - - the Republicans get all pissed off.

How dare the Dems fight back using the same tactics as the Republicans.

a reply to: Justso

They are more active in California...what's your point?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Gothmog
"To know your enemy , become your enemy" -Tsun Zu

HA! When the Dems start acting like the Republicans - - the Republicans get all pissed off.

How dare the Dems fight back using the same tactics as the Republicans.

Why do you people bother with your chicken/egg debates? Neither your side nor the other side is all good, nor all bad. You both do the same crap whenever you're the ones with the majority. You both play the victim card like it's your job to do so. For every incident you point to the right doing, there's one that the right can point to that happened a week before.

It's utterly pointless to play your victimhood game.

This is petty, shame on the GOP in NC.

WE can find plenty of examples of both sides getting caught in corruption probes and other criminal acts, along with general machine control politics, chicago blurted into my mind when I thought of that.

They lost that election. Go home and present a better candidate next time.

Has everyone gone mad? I swear 90% of americans have entirely list their minds.

a reply to: schuyler

That's why the system by default has 2 granted electoral votes not based on population given rural states.

MT, WY, ND, SD together have double the amount of electorate votes as Iowa, and Iowa feels like small state compared to most States. This doesn't stop them from having double Iowas electorates, despite equal population.

Gerrymandering with conservative basis, is on a State level, it's hilarious you care about counties.

It sure is comforting that these default votes can take up more than half the influence of the electorates based on population.

Still scratching my head how Trump won the state but they elected a Dem for governor. Talk about a disconnect.

a reply to: raymundoko

What's your point?

Just so I can say I understand things after reading this thread, it's that:

A. if you are a Democrat, then your party is made of saints and messengers of God, and no wrong can or has ever been done.

B. If you are Republican, you should be ashamed of yourself.

C. Both parties are bad, but yours is worse because of "reasons".

Does anyone really believe their party is morally better than the other? If so, please click here.

originally posted by: Teikiatsu
Still scratching my head how Trump won the state but they elected a Dem for governor. Talk about a disconnect.

That was all the HB2 backlash. It was a massive mind# on the people.

Before the election, Jobs were leaving the state and we would all die a horrible death.
After the election, jobs are coming to NC in record levels.

HB2 is still the same and isn't likely to be changed anytime soon.

End result= people are easily led.

a reply to: network dude

A. if you are a Democrat, then your party is made of saints and messengers of God, and no wrong can or has ever been done.

Who said that?

B. If you are Republican, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Ashamed for what?

C. Both parties are bad, but yours is worse because of "reasons".

Both parties are bad for a variety of reasons.

a reply to: introvert

Hyperbole to hi lite the silliness in this thread. Each side thinking the other is bad, yet theirs is good.
I tried to make it simple. Sorry.