Electors are being harassed, threatened in bid to stop Trump

originally posted by: pteridine

As I remember, there was not this level of animosity in 2008 or 2012. Was there evidence of widespread attempts to turn electors during those elections?

That's funny - I remember quite a bit of animosity back then - and now. Maybe there wasn't an attempt to turn electors because Obama won the popular vote (by a lot) in addition to winning the electoral vote.

a reply to: DBCowboy

God forbid they send an email with concerns about Trump. We simply cannot allow that, apparently.

originally posted by: xuenchen
Now we are getting reports that some Electors in some states are getting email bombed with threats !!

One says at least 50,000 emails have been received !!

Somebody's really going nuts over the election of Trump.

Even death threats are happening.

Electors are being harassed, threatened in bid to stop Trump

Electors around the country are being harassed with a barrage of emails, phone calls and letters — and even death threats — in an effort to block Donald Trump from being voted in as president by the Electoral College on Monday.

The bullying is overwhelming Sharon Geise’s tech devices, but not her resolve to support Trump.

The Mesa, Arizona, grandmother woke up Wednesday morning to more than 1,500 emails demanding she not carry out her legal duty to vote for the president-elect.

“They just keep coming and coming,” Geise told The Post, estimating she’s received more than 50,000 emails since the election. “They’re overpowering my iPad.”

Arizona was supposed to be getting this treatment a month ago, as reported by Fox News then, again the story is the same, 1000's of e-mails. Sharon Geise is mentioned then too. She put the blame on Hilary Clinton at that time.
I can't think why she didn't have Hillary arrested for harassment.

www.foxnews.com...

In the meantime Mr Trump is being a bit naughty too threatening any Republican elector voter who doesn't vote for him with, "Political reprisals" .....whatever that may be.

As well as that, there is the Harvard professor who reckons there are a considerable number of electoral voters who will not vote for Trump. A discussion here,



So, yes you might still need to worry past the 19th, but keep up the good work anyway! I Love it, Donald.

BTW, don't mention the dirty work going on in NC whatever you do!

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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: DBCowboy

God forbid they send an email with concerns about Trump. We simply cannot allow that, apparently.

Nice try.

I'm all for criticism.

But when those who embrace your ideology threaten to kill people simply because they don't think like you, then I have a right and am accurate when I call you authoritarians.

originally posted by: Martin75
....if you've never been taught to lose gracefully this is what happens.

I remember when first place got the big trophy, second place trophy was about 1/2 the size, 3rd was mostly a token, and everyone else received ribbons for participation... and the losing team(s) took to the field to give handshakes and congratulations to the winning team.

At my kid's school, currently, everyone gets a ribbon... and the school gets a trophy for following the rules regardless how well the students perform.

a reply to: toolgal462

If we go back in time just a few minutes you will see it was you that took it upon yourself to reply to me first by stating I was "loosely" interpreting the law.. I merely corrected you by saying and pointing out statutes supporting my argument.....

That's when the childish like maneuver by saying your uncles brothers sisters husband is a judge so that automatically made me wrong and you right.....lol like a school yard kid saying" oh yea but my daddy is stronger than yours, and he will kick your dads butt".

When your only line of facts were a distant in laws opinion and they were picked apart by a internet fool you all of a sudden decided you were above the fray......you arguments are laughable.....good luck my sour friend....

I typically don't get into battles of wits with unarmed people.....

oh and just a refresher on what the OP clearly said is being reported.....

"Electors around the country are being harassed with a barrage of emails, phone calls and letters — and even death threats — in an effort to block Donald Trump from being voted in as president by the Electoral College on Monday. "

originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: pteridine

As I remember, there was not this level of animosity in 2008 or 2012. Was there evidence of widespread attempts to turn electors during those elections?

That's funny - I remember quite a bit of animosity back then - and now. Maybe there wasn't an attempt to turn electors because Obama won the popular vote (by a lot) in addition to winning the electoral vote.

There was also quite a bit of animosity when Dubya was elected and re-elected. Nothing like this, though.

I do remember the Obama riots now, too. The looting of Hammacher Schlemmer and the pillaging and burning of West Chester.

a reply to: TheBulk

Yep, I'm only a few years older than you and he was maybe a couple years behind me.

There might come a cautious re-establishment of ties down the road. My husband doesn't like to give up on people. I, on the other hand, have decided that if it means something to him, he can make the first moves. I don't hate him but I have better things to do with my life than go approval seeking from someone that volatile.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

But when those who embrace your ideology threaten to kill people simply because they don't think like you, then I have a right and am accurate when I call you authoritarians.

Me? I didn't threaten to kill anyone. No one I know threatened to kill anyone. As usual, you are inaccurate in your assessment.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: DBCowboy

God forbid they send an email with concerns about Trump. We simply cannot allow that, apparently.

I didn't realize that an emailed death threat was simply concerns about Trump.

originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: DBCowboy

But when those who embrace your ideology threaten to kill people simply because they don't think like you, then I have a right and am accurate when I call you authoritarians.

Me? I didn't threaten to kill anyone. No one I know threatened to kill anyone. As usual, you are inaccurate in your assessment.

Yet you appear to defend those that do wish death to anyone who didn't vote for Hillary.

You know the difference between criticism and promises of death, don't you?

a reply to: ketsuko

The article in the OP didn't say that every single email was a death threat. It didn't even say that most of the emails were death threats. But if it bleeds it leads, right?

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: DBCowboy

But when those who embrace your ideology threaten to kill people simply because they don't think like you, then I have a right and am accurate when I call you authoritarians.

Me? I didn't threaten to kill anyone. No one I know threatened to kill anyone. As usual, you are inaccurate in your assessment.

Yet you appear to defend those that do wish death to anyone who didn't vote for Hillary.

Inaccurate yet again, oh cottontail.

originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: DBCowboy

But when those who embrace your ideology threaten to kill people simply because they don't think like you, then I have a right and am accurate when I call you authoritarians.

Me? I didn't threaten to kill anyone. No one I know threatened to kill anyone. As usual, you are inaccurate in your assessment.

Yet you appear to defend those that do wish death to anyone who didn't vote for Hillary.

Inaccurate yet again, oh cottontail.

Uhhh, ok.

You "say" you don't support death threats.

yet you marginalize them and refer to them as "criticism".

So death threats are criticism?

originally posted by: DBCowboy

Uhhh, ok.

You "say" you don't support death threats.

yet you marginalize them and refer to them as "criticism".

So death threats are criticism?

Show me where I said that death threats were simply criticism.

Can you prove that every single email sent was a death threat? Can you even prove that most of the emails were death threats? The article said that "some" of the emails were death threats. That sounds to me like "not all" or even "not most". What about all the emails that weren't death threats? Those are the ones I'm referring to. You know, most of the emails.

a reply to: kaylaluv

We're talking about death threats and your statements liken them to criticism, so that you imply that criticism is synonymous with death threats since criticism is protected by free speech.

It appears as though you want to justify death threats by aligning them with criticism and protecting such threats using free speech as a reason.

a reply to: DBCowboy

YOU are talking about death threats, because you want to categorize all left as murderous monsters.

Others on the thread were talking about whether or not people with concerns about Trump should be able to voice their concerns to the electors instead of just letting it go and accepting Trump as their president.

I am responding to those others when I say that everyone has the right to express their opinion.

A death threat is not an opinion, therefore I was not referring to death threats.

Death threats are bad, mmmkay?

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: Restricted

Death threats because Hillary didn't win. Are you people serious?

And just like their friends the 'moderate Muslims' you hear nothing from our liberal friends on ATS condemning this insanity. They are complicit in their silence.

I'm as left as they come, pretty damn near socialist - and I have never issued a death threat in my life. All my liberal friends in Austin, Texas haven't either - and I have a LOT of liberal friends.

Now, sending a letter that encourages the electors to vote against Trump? Nothing wrong with that - unless you want to ban free speech.

We had a liberal friend, and he went into such a froth after the election that death threats were the least of it. Despite me having known him since high school and couple of the rest of our circle having known him since college, he either cut himself off from a few of us or was cut off by others because he was just too toxic to keep in our feeds.

I could well believe he'd send death threats to someone because he was spewing them over social media to all and sundry through some of the links he was posting and reposting.

I have a half dozen of those on my FB feed. It's like Star Trek. They go into melt down down when everyone doesn't assimilate to their collective ideology. It is sad but I just sit back and revel at their continuous barrage of anti Trump post and positions.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: DBCowboy

God forbid they send an email with concerns about Trump. We simply cannot allow that, apparently.

Nice try.

I'm all for criticism.

But when those who embrace your ideology threaten to kill people simply because they don't think like you, then I have a right and am accurate when I call you authoritarians.

Isn't this election tampering or voter intimidation or something?

Imagine if these threats were aimed at someone standing in line at the voting booth.

Where is the difference?

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: DBCowboy

God forbid they send an email with concerns about Trump. We simply cannot allow that, apparently.

Nice try.

I'm all for criticism.

But when those who embrace your ideology threaten to kill people simply because they don't think like you, then I have a right and am accurate when I call you authoritarians.

Isn't this election tampering or voter intimidation or something?

Imagine if these threats were aimed at someone standing in line at the voting booth.

Where is the difference?

There is none.