Nostradamus, Trump and WWIII

a reply to: Willtell

Considering Iran has violated the nuclear agreement a couple of times so far they dont have room to criticize the US governments action in this area. Secondly Obama already stated certain portions of the pending legislation wont apply to areas covered in the nuke agreement.

3rd and most importantly - Had Obama not pulled an end run around Congress by making the agreement an executive agreement, the threat by Trump to revoke the agreement wouldnt hold water. It tells me Obama thought Clinton would win the election.

I guess his legacy will be just how wrong he got things.

As for Nostradamus I dunno... Many of his predictions can apply to numerous incidents throughout history. To me taking a prediction and then looking for facts to support it is backwards. It is like the Mayan prophecies and the end of the world. They predict the end yet couldnt predict the arrival of the Spanish (based on my research anyways).

Besides according to Nostradamus Obama is the antichrist.

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: JoeP2247
a reply to: Xcathdra

No he did not - if you think he did please point it out.

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You said Obama would be the last President. I pointed out he is President until January 20th 2017 at 12:00 at which point the prediction expires since that is when Trump becomes President.

Except i was the one that pointed out nostradamus made that the prediction of obama being the last president not joe.

a reply to: JoeP2247

“The great shameless, audacious bawler. He will be elected governor of the army: The boldness of his contention. The bridge broken, the city faint from fear.”

Sounds a lot more like Mattis than Trump

Rediscovered usually means made up.

Here is another rediscovered quatrain:

By virtue of the masses, he takes over the great house,
When the new year starts, great times come to the city,
The elite tremble in fear,
As the great orange pumpkin lays waste to their plans

a reply to: everyone

You should reread his posts and my responses to them. I think you may have gotten a bit confused.

a reply to: RickinVa

It is not "made up" - it is the quatrains as the writer cited.

And by the way, I think the 3rd anti-christ is supposed to be named Mabus.

a reply to: JoeP2247

Could be wrong about Mabus as the third anti-christ per below he is more like a warning - this cut and paste

Antichrist # 3

Here Hogue digresses and discusses a different Quatrain.


Quatrain X.72
In 1999, seven months,
From the sky (North) a great frightening King will come
The great King of Angoulmois lives again.
Before (and) after March (2000), (he) rules for happiness.

The actual quatrain where the AC is theoretically mentioned is here:

Century 2, v 62

"‘Mabus’ then will soon die, there will come
Of people and beasts a horrible rout:
Then suddenly one will see vengeance,
Hundred, hand, thirst, hunger when the comet will run.

A close look at the verse does not really reveal MABUS as an antichrist figure."

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a reply to: RickinVa

There is only one "governer" of the US army and that is the commander in chief - not some advisor

a reply to: JoeP2247

The counter argument that Mabus is the third anti christ goes like this

By Ron P

In the early 1990's, after the gulf war ended, Nostradamus followers wildly speculated that Suddam Hussein was the third Anti-Christ. Many scholars have interpreted Nostradamus' prophecies over the years. The common consensus is that the first Anti-Christ, named Napaulon Roy was Napoleon, the second named Hister was Hitler and the third was named Mabus. We have yet to figure out who this last Anti-Christ will be.

Century 2, Quatrain 62
Mabus will soon die, then will come,
A horrible undoing of people and animals,
At once one will see vengeance,
One hundred powers, thirst, famine, when the comet will pass.

After the gulf war, Suddam was left standing in Baghdad and people lost interest. The prophecy was not fulfilled because Mabus (sudaM) was still alive. Now with war looming over the middle east, Suddam is now the US's number one target. He has the chance to fulfill the prophecy, if Bush gets his way. Nostradamus infers that if the third and final Anti-Christ dies, a 27 year war of vengeance will begin.

Century 8, Quatrain 77
The antichrist very soon annihilates the three,
twenty-seven years his war will last.
The unbelievers are dead, captive, exiled;
with blood, human bodies, water and red hail covering the earth.
With all the terror attacks around the globe, it's not hard to see how 27 years of Arab reprisals could take place. And how Suddam would become the Arabic martyr for revenge. His death may look like the solution to end all hostility's, but it could trigger decades of terror attacks. I think Suddam may get his chance to play the role of the Anti-Christ (Trickster) after all.

Link - www.crystalinks.com...

originally posted by: JoeP2247
a reply to: RickinVa

It is not "made up" - it is the quatrains as the writer cited.

And by the way, I think the 3rd anti-christ is supposed to be named Mabus.

And I quote you:

"according to a rediscovered Quatrain."

Again, rediscovered almost always means made up.

I am extremely familiar with the writings of old Nossy. I do not put any faith in those writings what so ever.

a reply to: RickinVa

If you really were familiar with him you could take any old copy of prophecies and find them.

Rediscovered does not mean made up. We rediscover things all the time - Use of gun powder in a rocket was "rediscovered" in the 13th century - China had developed this hundreds of years earlier for example.

In this case two quatrains from different centuries were interpreted as above - that is all. The guys use of the word rediscovered is a very bad choice of words.

Doesn't make them true but it is what N wrote about 500 years ago.

Joe

An anti-christ causing a 27-year-long war isn't Mabus, who is dead before anything even happens. So we move along..

Here is the problem - we hold up certain people as our 'experts' on a subject, and they know everything about it, a supreme god-like figure, in status.


In this case, the 'experts' are likely our biggest problem, in fact.

They act the part, but no expert has to act the part.

Think for yourself, in other words.

you forgot this one:

The great orange pumpkin,
will arise from the patch.
to millions of deplorables.
he will then attach.

Cankles was sure
she had it won,
but the great pumpkin
would see her undone,

Great anger will
arise from the left,
they will claim
the election was taken by theft.

Despite the fact
they had a poor candidate,
they must find an excuse
and will blame the Russian state.

News will be negative
24 hours a day,
the left will pay money
to see it that way.

In the end,
the great pumpkin will prevail,
no matter how loud
the left protests and yell.

I believe that is quatrain MCXIIVIICLV

Great thread SnF

originally posted by: JoeP2247
a reply to: JoeP2247

The counter argument that Mabus is the third anti christ goes like this

By Ron P

In the early 1990's, after the gulf war ended, Nostradamus followers wildly speculated that Suddam Hussein was the third Anti-Christ. Many scholars have interpreted Nostradamus' prophecies over the years. The common consensus is that the first Anti-Christ, named Napaulon Roy was Napoleon, the second named Hister was Hitler and the third was named Mabus. We have yet to figure out who this last Anti-Christ will be.

Century 2, Quatrain 62
Mabus will soon die, then will come,
A horrible undoing of people and animals,
At once one will see vengeance,
One hundred powers, thirst, famine, when the comet will pass.

After the gulf war, Suddam was left standing in Baghdad and people lost interest. The prophecy was not fulfilled because Mabus (sudaM) was still alive. Now with war looming over the middle east, Suddam is now the US's number one target. He has the chance to fulfill the prophecy, if Bush gets his way. Nostradamus infers that if the third and final Anti-Christ dies, a 27 year war of vengeance will begin.

Century 8, Quatrain 77
The antichrist very soon annihilates the three,
twenty-seven years his war will last.
The unbelievers are dead, captive, exiled;
with blood, human bodies, water and red hail covering the earth.
With all the terror attacks around the globe, it's not hard to see how 27 years of Arab reprisals could take place. And how Suddam would become the Arabic martyr for revenge. His death may look like the solution to end all hostility's, but it could trigger decades of terror attacks. I think Suddam may get his chance to play the role of the Anti-Christ (Trickster) after all.

Link - www.crystalinks.com...

Nostradamus doesn't refer to Hitler as an anti-Christ, nor Napoleon, nor Mabus. He refers to an anti-Christ, who has yet to come. He doesn't refer to him as the 3rd anti-Christ, either. It doesn't matter if 'a consensus' of so-called 'experts' think he refers to three anti-christs, because he does not.

Mabus is supposed to be the third anti-Christ, because it fits with their unfounded argument of Nostradamus naming three antichrists. Even if they don't fit the quatrains.

After Mabus dies there will be great destruction of people and animals. Anti-Christs cannot cause great destruction if they're already dead. So Mabus doesn't fit, whatsoever.

This is a great example of why nobody should ever think of these people as 'the experts' on Nostradamus. Think for yourself, it's much better than letting 'experts' guide your thoughts.

a reply to: JoeP2247

All prophecy is nothing more than self fulfilling twaddle really.