President Trump: A Pattern Emerges

To understand what is happening to the future Presidency, it is important to understand that Donald Trump has a severely narcissistic personality style. There is no use trying to deny that; the man puts his name on buildings around the world in gold letters fifteen feet high, and makes boasts so outrageous as to suggest that he is delusional. Here is a description of the narcissistic personality disorder:

1. An exaggerated sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

[Edits for brevity. --DJW001

2. Preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

Translation: Narcissists cultivate solipsistic or "autistic" fantasies, which is to say that they live in their own little worlds (and react with affront when reality dares to intrude).

3. Believes he is "special" and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)


4. Requires excessive admiration

5. Has a sense of entitlement

Translation: They expect automatic compliance with their wishes or especially favorable treatment, such as thinking that they should always be able to go first and that other people should stop whatever they're doing to do what the narcissists want, and may react with hurt or rage when these expectations are frustrated.


7. Lacks empathy.

8. Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him

9. Shows arrogant, haughty, patronizing, or contemptuous behaviors or attitudes

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Narcissists tend to be highly manipulative; after all, they're entitled and other people are just there to be used. President Elect Trump is beginning to show a distinct pattern of manipulation through "exceptionalism." Indeed, this tendency seems to actually attract his followers because they view it as evidence of his being an "outsider" who doesn't "play by the rules." In fact, it is narcissistic manipulation.

First, he drowns out all the other hopefuls with mean spirited bullying. He seizes media exposure with outrageous tweets. That's not breaking the mold, that's getting the RNC and media to make an exception to the usual rules of civility and journalistic integrity.

Then, he has his campaign staff monetize his campaign by selling merchandise! Normally, that would be frowned on. The party funds are supposed to go towards the campaign, not to a for profit operation. But, in Trump's case, they'll make a little exception.

Setting aside all the minor instances along the campaign trail, Trump is now in a position to manipulate the entire government. Here are two examples of what lies ahead:

As governor, Mike Pence did not cut a deal with Carrier. Favoring one business over others is not how the free market works. It reeks of crony capitalism, as Sarah Palin herself has said. Taxation is a matter for legislators, not executives anyway. But, because Candidate Trump grandly promised to save the Carrier factory jobs, Pence was persuaded to set a potentially damaging precedent as a favor to President Elect Trump. After all, it would only be this one time, right?

Now, Trump has nominated General James Mattis for Secretary of Defense. He is seemingly an ideal candidate for the job. An experienced, no nonsense Marine who was beloved by his men, and apparently an excellent administrator as well. There's only one problem. The law requires a candidate to be out of the service for at least seven years before becoming Secretary of Defense, and Mattis has only been retired for two years. It would require an act of Congress for him to serve. You know, make an exception. Just this once, right?

The pattern is blindingly obvious: Donald Trump manipulates people into making exceptions for him. He got his Vice President to act against his better impulses, and now he is tempting Congress to make an exception for him. Trump is manipulating Congress to change a law it made for good reasons. Just a teeny weeny little exception to the law.

I hope Congress doesn't fall for it.

First , you come off as a bit jealous......
Second. Yes , there is a regulation against service and serving as a staff in Federal Office. However , that same regulation PROVIDES the rules for exceptions
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What did you expect? The only pattern here is yours and it is abundantly clear that this isn't a thread about him being a narcisst, rather, its a cleverly disguised rant. You literally see it halr way through your post.

In regards to maintaining a discussion on this "thread", I would say that who isn't a narcissit? I want big gold letters of my name in a biilding, I boast about my accomplish, may even embeliish a bit, whole knows.

No, no...I believe that people change and once the most powerful position in the world sinks into totality, we will be seeing a very different Trump.

Evidence was see in the campaign of this. He started off very abrasive, but as time when on and began to move up, his style and temper have dramatically been tempered, soon to be razor sharp.

The carrier thing, do the math and its a good deal.

So it seems like you have 2 options, incentivise companies to stay in the US or let them move to places with cheaper labour.

All these people who are saying the carrier deal was a bad move, what alternative would they suggest? so far I havent seen anyone suggest anything and it seems like their solutions was to let the company move overseas.
Yep that sounds like a great idea for America..... NOT
And I mean Sarah Palin, Sarah freakin Palin is actually being quoted as someone who knows what theyre talking about?????

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a reply to: Arnie123

What did you expect? The only pattern here is yours and it is abundantly clear that this isn't a thread about him being a narcisst, rather, its a cleverly disguised rant. You literally see it halr way through your post.

This is exactly what I expected. I tried warning everyone. Rather than attack me, why don't you refute the points I've made? This isn't the Mud Pit.

In regards to maintaining a discussion on this "thread", I would say that who isn't a narcissit? I want big gold letters of my name in a biilding, I boast about my accomplish, may even embeliish a bit, whole knows.

Howard Hughes was a much more successful businessman than Trump, but he never felt so insecure that he needed to put his name on all of his property.

No, no...I believe that people change and once the most powerful position in the world sinks into totality, we will be seeing a very different Trump.

Trump is getting his dreams of power fulfilled. The change is unlikely to be for the better.

Evidence was see in the campaign of this. He started off very abrasive, but as time when on and began to move up, his style and temper have dramatically been tempered, soon to be razor sharp.

He has gone from manipulating crowds to manipulating people. Normally, Presidents-Elect settle into Washington and work on their transition. Trump is touring the country to bask in his followers' adulation. Does this strike you as being a change for the better?

a reply to: DJW001

Thanks for the thread, DJ. I just remembered that I had a dream last night about Trump -- that he had his image holographically projected on a Yuuuge scale - so he appeared as large as the faces on Mount Rushmore -- and he was barking orders about who to kill and who to arrest and who to shut down.

In my dream he was like a terrible emperor tyrant, overseeing every move made by everyone, and doling out harsh retributions while he laughed and laughed.

That's all I remember except that it was clear the best choice was to remain silent and unnoticed. Sad state of affairs.

a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

The carrier thing, do the math and its a good deal.

So it seems like you have 2 options, incentivise companies to stay in the US or let them move to places with cheaper labour.

It's not about the math, it's about the precedent. Now other companies will expect to be bribed. Pence knew that but Trump got him to make an exception.

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Dear all, the president is absolutely open to (and therefore will be subject to) criticism. This is a by-product of a society in which free speech is guaranteed. It is a good thing, as it will (hopefully) hold our government accountable to a certain degree. In Saudi Arabia, a blogger was sentenced to 5 years for insulting the kingdom.. let's be grateful we live here!

Don't like the subject, don't read it!

a reply to: DJW001

Some of the Greatest Men in American History were a Bit Narcissistic . George Washington for Example , the Father of Our Country . He Refused to Bow Down to the British Crown out of Principle , and had the Intestinal Fortatude and Patience to Outlast the British Army in the War of Independence because he Refused to Lose . A Reminder that Leadership has a lot to do with Willpower , and Less to do with Vanity in Mr. Trump's case .

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Every word of that is true.
Unfortunately you could say the same thing about Hillary.
All the points you have highlighted fit her like a glove.

originally posted by: zosimov
Dear all, the president is absolutely open to (and therefore will be subject to) criticism. This is a by-product of a society in which free speech is guaranteed. It is a good thing, as it will (hopefully) hold our government accountable to a certain degree. In Saudi Arabia, a blogger was sentenced to 5 years for insulting the kingdom.. let's be grateful we live here!

Don't like the subject, don't read it!

Some people would rather bully others into silence. Certainly no-one seems inclined to refute my argument.

a reply to: Trueman

Except that he's not "doing great" - he's causing chaos. Trump is a madman. He has not "gotten better" and he's not "going to change", and THIS IS NOT NORMAL.

He is hiring the most bigoted RWNJs he can find. His VP pick is an intolerable slimeball Dominionist. His AG pick is just as bad, a racist and backwards thinking control freak.

He is acting like he's the King now. ALL of his names emblazoned in Gold Letters all over the world are now targets for terrorism. Having a White House full of rich scumbags who flaunt the law and don't give a crap about any of you is "doing great?"

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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: DJW001


Every word of that is true.
Unfortunately you could say the same thing about Hillary.
All the points you have highlighted fit her like a glove.

Not exactly. Hillary's supporters were not blind to her flaws. Incidentally, when she decompensates she goes OCD; when Trump decompensates he seems to go psychotic

And it's obvious that we are starting to have an issue with Trump threads in general.

People this is not the Mud Pit: You aren't allowed to act the way you are in the thread, from insults, to snarky posts, to changing political names, etc, etc, etc.

Thread closed for both clean up, and for you all to calm down.

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a reply to: DJW001

Moreover, the $450,000-a-month allowance excludes some of the largest of Mr. Trump's daunting expenses, the bankers say. These extras, based on Mr. Trump's spending in May, include the costs of maintaining his personal 727 jetliner ($246,000) and his 282-foot yacht ($841,000). The yacht and the personal jet, to be sure, may be sold to trim the real estate developer's mountainous debts.

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The bank gave him 450k a month while he was in bankruptcy to keep his name alive otherwise they would have lost out BIG time on all the property.

He was to big to fail in the 90's.