Donald Trump is Challenging China Even Before Becoming U.S. President.

originally posted by: Tarzan the apeman.
a reply to: carewemust

I was watching the news this morning and am seeing that Taiwan is the one who called Trump. It almost seemed like the MSM is making it like Trump called them. They called and said congratulations. If China wants to nuke us for someone answering a phone call then so be it. We don't need to exists as a species if it has come to this. Rather childish if you ask me. But nobody asked me. So its just my .02 cents.

Same old same old. Liberal media twisting words and meaning. Now if something is not news it would be that fact.

originally posted by: RickinVa
Trump did not initiate the call.

Trump answers a phone call and the world loses it mind.

Status Quo.

That just show how low on ammo they are running.

originally posted by: jtma508
a reply to: Jay-morris

There it is again... challenge Trump and his minions, rather than defend him on the merits, HAVE to go to the 'But Hillary...' defense because you can't defend him. "But Hillary...' is all you have. I dare you. Go back through the Trump threads and EVERY time someone challenges his awesomeness the very next post will be 'But Hillary...' Pathetic.

No, whats perfetic, is the fact that you will most probably ignore this reply. This may suprise you, but i am not a trump supporter. Never have been, and never will be.

But me saying Hillary is worse, makes me a trump supporter in your eyes.

Last a saw, trump was not the driving force behind the Libya invasion, that killed thousands of people with thousands more fleeing the country. And lets not forget, arming the terrorists to over through gaddafi

Last i saw, trumps campaign was not being funded by the same people who fund isis.

Last i saw, trump was not hell bent on starting a conflict with russia. Hillary even tried to blame the wikileak email release on russia.

Could trump be worse? Off course he could. But at the moment, i am telieved that war mongering idiot did not win.

originally posted by: carewemust
Friday, December 2, 2016

President-elect Trump spoke with the Taiwanese president today. Since China hates Taiwan, and Donald Trump has been badmouthing China for many years, for unfair trade practices, do you think that he had this conversation with Tsai lng-wen intentionally, just to say F-You (middle finger) to China?

This was deliberate payback for Chinese snub of POTUS Obama on his last visit to China.

You see, Obama is a cool nice guy, easy-going fella, and when he arrived in China, they made him essentially go to the back of the bus, and told the Americans "This is our Country, our Airport." Basically, they refused to cooperate with the US request to allow US security personnel to participate in the landing operations. So, POTUS got no red carpet treatment.

Obama didn't complain, because, well, he's a nice guy. But, as the bible says, "whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also" -- KJV, Matthew 5:39 . So, now they get to deal with the other side of America. The cheek has turned.

It would have been better for China, to treat Obama with the highest honor and respect they could, and cooperate fully with all requests, because that would have helped to keep the democrats in power, and their nice cozy relationship would have continued. In stead, they upset Americans, and the American public voted for change, partly to get a better image and more respect abroad.

So, this first foray into strategic diplomacy is the result. Most likely, this is a Steve Bannon move. First they announce that Donald spoke to the Taiwan president. That upset China. Then they added clarification that the Taiwan president is the one that called Donald, like many other heads of state, to congratulate him. And why not? So, that puts China in a bit of a pickle, because it looks like Donald didn't seek out the Taiwan president, it just sort of happened, and he was forced to respond, and naturally would accept congrats from anybody. Hey, Nigel Farage congratulated him, and he's not even head of state anywhere. So, anybody can call Donald to say congrats. Whats the problem? Moreover, Donald isn't even sworn in yet. So, no protocols are broken. Why is China making noises?

Because the Chinese have been at this game for thousands of years, they see quite clearly what's going on. They don't miss a beat. Every subtlety has great meaning and purpose. They know that this contact between The Donald and Taiwan was set up by the Americans. They are not buying the story that Donald got a call out of the blue, so to speak, from Taiwan, to chat. So, now the Chinese are forced to complain to Obama. After all, he's still the official president. But, what can Obama do? He's on his way out the door.

I'm sure he didn't tell the Chinese "This is our Country, our Telephones!"

Obama is far too nice for that.

Saturday, December 3, 2016

China must think that the USA operates like their sorry system. This evening, China filed a formal complaint over Trump's conversation with the Taiwanese President. And they're ratting him out to President Obama, so Obama can have Trump boiled in oil, like they do with those who step out of line.

CNN's latest Trump Witch-hunt: www.cnn.com...

originally posted by: carewemust
Saturday, December 3, 2016

China must think that the USA operates like their sorry system. This evening, China filed a formal complaint over Trump's conversation with the Taiwanese President. And they're ratting him out to President Obama, so Obama can have Trump boiled in oil, like they do with those who step out of line.

CNN's latest Trump Witch-hunt: www.cnn.com...

Talk about china trying to influence a election eh?

originally posted by: buster2010
Seeing the business he does with China he is more likely hoping China doesn't give him the middle finger.

So he is putting the country ahead of his own interests? Imagine if Obama and Clinton did that.

Thanks for the support. #GreatAgain

a reply to: everyone

This could escalate to a trade war. If we want to stop imports, we need to do it so that prices do go up immediately or job loss.

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: everyone

This could escalate to a trade war. If we want to stop imports, we need to do it so that prices do go up immediately or job loss.

Chinese job loss sounds good to me. Offer US companies great incentives they will come back.

a reply to: yuppa

Sometimes, I think I have seen too much or lived too long. I clearly remember when Nixon went to China and how excited and happy everyone was.

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: yuppa

Sometimes, I think I have seen too much or lived too long. I clearly remember when Nixon went to China and how excited and happy everyone was.

Do you think China has changed a lot since then?

I was reading an article how China has become so independent in their own right - - - they no longer need outsiders to help in their business models.

They are now the manufacturing nation.

I know they did not have a middle class then. The most important thing about China is its size and population, 1.367 billion people. Why anyone thought we could compete with that I don't know. But congress and corp were giddy about new customers. Now they have a middle class competing with our middle class for jobs.

a reply to: Jay-morris

Nope. I won't ignore it. Go to any Trump thread and as soon as anyone questions his almightiness the very next post will be 'Hillary is worse'. Hillary was not an option, in my book, but the people defending Trump never defend him on the merits. They immediately go to 'better than Hillary'. But the fact is, we don't really know that yet, do we? People assume that but we've yet to see what Trump and his entourage are going to do. My argument is that continuing to attack Hillary as a defense of Trump is not only pointless (News Flash: Hillary lost) but it's deflective. It's like saying, 'well the Crypts are worse' as one of the Bloods abducts your daughter.

originally posted by: jtma508
a reply to: Jay-morris

Nope. I won't ignore it. Go to any Trump thread and as soon as anyone questions his almightiness the very next post will be 'Hillary is worse'. Hillary was not an option, in my book, but the people defending Trump never defend him on the merits. They immediately go to 'better than Hillary'. But the fact is, we don't really know that yet, do we? People assume that but we've yet to see what Trump and his entourage are going to do. My argument is that continuing to attack Hillary as a defense of Trump is not only pointless (News Flash: Hillary lost) but it's deflective. It's like saying, 'well the Crypts are worse' as one of the Bloods abducts your daughter.

So true and I will go further. This whole trying to connect Hillary to child sex slaves is to make her look worse than Donald. It is not a conspiracy theory, it is psychological.

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: yuppa

Sometimes, I think I have seen too much or lived too long. I clearly remember when Nixon went to China and how excited and happy everyone was.

That was because he was in on the sell out and convinced americans it was a good thing.

originally posted by: jtma508
a reply to: Jay-morris

Nope. I won't ignore it. Go to any Trump thread and as soon as anyone questions his almightiness the very next post will be 'Hillary is worse'. Hillary was not an option, in my book, but the people defending Trump never defend him on the merits. They immediately go to 'better than Hillary'. But the fact is, we don't really know that yet, do we? People assume that but we've yet to see what Trump and his entourage are going to do. My argument is that continuing to attack Hillary as a defense of Trump is not only pointless (News Flash: Hillary lost) but it's deflective. It's like saying, 'well the Crypts are worse' as one of the Bloods abducts your daughter.

Hillary should be attacked because of her actions. Just like anyone in power who has done terrible things.

I actually only brought this up because there were so many anti trump threads saying how bad he is, yet the same people completly ignoring what Hillary has done. I find that very hypocritical.

Trump, might has just as much blood on in hands, or even more after his term. Or he may not.

Time will tell

originally posted by: Jay-morris
Go to any Trump thread and as soon as anyone questions his almightiness the very next post will be 'Hillary is worse'.


I actually only brought this up because there were so many anti trump threads saying how bad he is, yet the same people completly ignoring what Hillary has done. I find that very hypocritical.

Obama was right. The end of the republic has come. Baba Vanga was right Obama is the last president of the United States.

Many people misinterpreted the signs. They thought it meant Obama would never leave office. But, there's another interpretation.

Donald Trump is KING. [ The Gospel of Thomas #81 ]

a reply to: AMPTAH

Oh BS.

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: AMPTAH

Oh BS.

I wonder if this is BS too...

Why I Will Not Cast My Electoral Vote for Donald Trump

DALLAS — I am a Republican presidential elector, one of the 538 people asked to choose officially the president of the United States. Since the election, people have asked me to change my vote based on policy disagreements with Donald J. Trump. ... The election of the next president is not yet a done deal. Electors of conscience can still do the right thing for the good of the country. Presidential electors have the legal right and a constitutional duty to vote their conscience. ... During the campaign more than 50 Republican former national security officials and foreign policy experts co-signed a letter opposing him. In their words, “he would be a dangerous president.” During the campaign Mr. Trump even said Russia should hack Hillary Clinton’s emails. This encouragement of an illegal act has troubled many members of Congress and troubles me. ... Fifteen years ago, I swore an oath to defend my country and Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. On Dec. 19, I will do it again.

a reply to: AMPTAH

So you want to go back to the way things were when your President would sell your livelihood and grandchildren future to communist dictatorships abroad?

If snubbing China and not giving them an inch is "dangerous for America" then I would say dangerous is exactly what America needs right now.